GOP Sen. Ben Sasse Blasts Roy Moore, Condemns ‘White Backlash Grievance’ on the Right

[Emjay]

Comment shows a lack of knowledge of history, a false understanding of the actions labeled as an inquisition and dishonesty ala Obama.

The so called inquisition lasted only a very very short time compared to the conquest of the Muslim across Southern Europe that lasted numerous centuries. The inquisition was a “finally had enough” Europe that pushed back against the aggression and rescue their populations that had been taken as slaves.

Next time read your history before making a stupid arse assertion like Obama did.

You are exactly right and history should teach us a lesson about nipping this infusion of Muslims into our society. Do not let them get a foothold. 

[Suppressed]

What part of Article IV? This one?
Why isn't my CCW permit good in all states and Federal Properties?

IV != VI

[Suppressed]

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition

Come on... Catholics have murdered unbelievers for their "heretical" faith for centuries of their history, going back well before the Inquisition.  They were quite effective in the practice of genocide -- just ask the Cathars, Donatists, etc.... oh, wait, we can't, as they were hunted down and exterminated by the One True Church^TM.

Corruption doesn't mean the tenets of a religion are wrong or as evil as some practitioners.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Conservatives are a bunch of sad sack crybaby whiners... they want safe spaces too. Look at how "pro freedom" conservatives want to restrict muslims on this thread.

How many times does your mother have to tell you to leave the grownups computer alone?

Here's the site you were looking for, again.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/

Honestly, WTF, she bought you an X-Box AND a Play Station.

Use your own computer from now on, Please!

[Jazzhead]

Whining? No. Reread the conversation, will ya?

How many obligatory Christians are present in the standard diversified sitcom/TV drama mix of characters?
Zero, although there are a few parodies to be ridiculed openly. Seems a mite under represented to me.

It isn't the Congress we are referring to, here, who will be more representative of their home districts, demographically.

It is the people who surround them on Capitol Hill and in their local environment there in DC  who will influence their perception of 'America', far more than the letters from 'home' they never, themselves, open.
 
These are the things which affect the perception of those making the rules for us to live by: the people on K street, the staffers, their fellow Congresspeople, the Media, but not so much the folks in the home district they might make a show of connecting with a few times a year. Special interest groups know this and saturate the locales where power is concentrated for that reason. It is a simple enough concept, and a distortion of the country's demographic and cultural makeup.

From ending prayer in the schools, even conspicuously removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance, then the Pledge itself, to forcing people out of business because they will not utilize their creative talents to celebrate perversion, and every time we speak out against that by which we are offended we are called "HATERS!" and decried from the same rooftops Muslims would be throwing gays off of, Yep, the Christian part of this culture is ever being forced back by those who push their pet evil.

If you think I'm whining, go open a bakery.

Yeah, I do think you're whining, as pitifully as the average liberal.    Judeo-Christian ethics are doing just fine in this country; immigrants typically work harder than some of us born here, and culturally we assimilate the offspring of new immigrants just as we always have.   In my area there's been a uptick in new congregations, serving immigrant populations from the far east.   

Even gays have been fighting to be included in the most defining Judeo-Christian ritual of all - marriage and family. 

Of course, the "Bible-believing" Christians condemn homosexuals who want to share such values;  whether they hook up in a bathhouse or for life with a loving partner,  the Bible cuts 'em no slack according to those who think that Jesus' message consists of archaic dogma.   

 

[truth_seeker]

Comment shows a lack of knowledge of history, a false understanding of the actions labeled as an inquisition and dishonesty ala Obama.

The so called inquisition lasted only a very very short time compared to the conquest of the Muslim across Southern Europe that lasted numerous centuries. The inquisition was a “finally had enough” Europe that pushed back against the aggression and rescue their populations that had been taken as slaves.

Next time read your history before making a stupid arse assertion like Obama did.

The Inquisition was against muslims, Jews and Protestants, and spanned Spain, France and Italy.

The context within which I intended it to be read, was the part against Jews and other Christians (aka Protestants).

I said nothing about muslims (or Obama). Ironically it is you that ought to brush up on history. All of the story across all of Europe concerning all the various religions over a longer time than merely that which was call Inquisition.

I will assume for now that you actually have more class, than resorting to use of language like "stupid arse" might indicate.

[Smokin Joe]

Come on... Catholics have murdered unbelievers for their "heretical" faith for centuries of their history, going back well before the Inquisition.  They were quite effective in the practice of genocide -- just ask the Cathars, Donatists, etc.... oh, wait, we can't, as they were hunted down and exterminated by the One True Church^TM.

Corruption doesn't mean the tenets of a religion are wrong or as evil as some practitioners.

I'll see you a Reformation or two and raise you a few witch hunts. Cromwell was no bloody saint, either, and he was just one murderous 'reformer'. So, considering the centuries involved leading to the Inquisitions, kindly don't be so sanctimonious.
Frankly, the Inquisition has gotten a bad name. Charges of Heresy were brought by civil authorities. Punishments were dolesd out by the same, the Clergy being forbidden to use torture or take lives.

According to historian Thomas Madden:

    The Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions. Yes, you read that correctly. Heresy was a crime against the state. Roman law in the Code of Justinian made heresy a capital offense... [emphasis in original]

In the early Middle Ages, people accused of heresy were judged by the local lord, many of whom lacked theological training. Madden claims that "The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule" [emphasis in original].[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition


By providing some sort of venue for the trial of those accused, many were saved from the mob and given an opportunity to repent and go forth.

The corruption you seek is one exacted by secular authority.

Almost universally, the penalties for heresy included confiscation of property, a motive every bit as strong as the motive behind Civil Asset Forfeiture today--and one which can be equally abused.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Of course, the "Bible-believing" Christians condemn homosexuals who want to share such values;  whether they hook up in a bathhouse or for life with a loving partner,  the Bible cuts 'em no slack according to those who think that Jesus' message consists of archaic dogma.

That "Bible-believing" qualifier you add seems to connote a type of Christian.

Question:  Do you believe a Christian can be a Christian without believing in the Bible?

[DiogenesLamp]

@Emjay

Well, I feel the same way you do about that, but not being a leftist, my feelings are not the be-all and end-all of it.  The Constitution is the law, and we better amend it if we don't like what it says.

I like what it says just fine.   It says "Our Lord"  at the end of it. 


What do you suppose that means? 

[DiogenesLamp]

Sasse also threw out the term 'white grievance', and accused those falling under the rhubric of not having principles.

What possible benefit did he see in throwing out that comment?   What is wrong with just shutting the  F*** up?    Why do our people constantly feel the need to attack our party's candidates?   

[DiogenesLamp]

@TomSea, maybe you were under a rock for the last eight years, I don't know.  If so, you ought to know that former senator Obama enacted a pretty big part of his agenda.  We might not like the results, but he was a success in doing what he wanted to do.

He was "black"  opposition to him was deemed "racism",  and of course nobody wanted to be called a "racist"  by the Democrat-Media weapon.   

Also the Washington/New York power cartel wanted that stuff to happen.    They fund both sides. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Not a good president, an EFFECTIVE one.
He got his country wrecking agenda done, pretty much, despite resistance.
I can't really think of anything he did that I agree with, at least until he moved out of our White House.

We need someone even more effective (and Conservative) to reverse that damage.

Getting sewage to flow downhill is easy.   Getting it to flow back up the hill is hard. 

[DiogenesLamp]

True, but it would be dangerous and I don't think we would like the outcome.  The Founding Fathers were wise.

I point out often that most of the amendments after the first 10 were just disasters.  One of the exceptions is the 27th amendment,  which of course was written by the founders back in the day. 

[DiogenesLamp]

With the full knowledge I'm restating the painfully obvious here, the Idea that we'd be importing Muslims by the millions at some point didn't enter the minds of the men who codified religious liberty into the Constitution.

They didn't feel they even Needed to state that they meant Judeo/Christian sects.

They really did mean Judeo/Christian sects,  and they had no intentions of indulging other religions.   The point was to prevent denominational fights in the Federal Government,   not to make the state indifferent to the various religions out there.   

[DiogenesLamp]

Conservatives are a bunch of sad sack crybaby whiners... they want safe spaces too.

Safe Spaces?  You mean "borders"?   Yeah,  I want borders to keep the third world trash and their socialist ideas out of the country.   

Look at how "pro freedom" conservatives want to restrict muslims on this thread.

Don't particularly want to restrict them,  just want them to stay in the country where that is the dominant religion.   

Actually,  now that I think about it,   I do want to restrict them.   I want their religion wiped out,  even in the other parts of the world. 

[Silver Pines]

I like what it says just fine.   It says "Our Lord"  at the end of it. 


What do you suppose that means?

@DiogenesLamp

Gee, I...wait, let me think.   "Our Lord"....what IS that?  I really have no idea!

I said "if", so if it doesn't apply to you, don't yelp.

*Even he gets the sarcasm but he'll explain anyway because he can't resist the opportunity to pontificate.

[Silver Pines]

He was "black"  opposition to him was deemed "racism",  and of course nobody wanted to be called a "racist"  by the Democrat-Media weapon.   

Also the Washington/New York power cartel wanted that stuff to happen.    They fund both sides.

@DiogenesLamp

Argue with your buddy, Rush...he shares my view and expounded on it more than I.

[DiogenesLamp]

@DiogenesLamp

Argue with your buddy, Rush...he shares my view and expounded on it more than I.

Digging through the thread,  I am still at a loss as to what view you and Rush (whom I haven't heard in years)  share.   


Perhaps you could briefly articulate it?   

[Fantom]

Come on... Catholics have murdered unbelievers for their "heretical" faith for centuries of their history, going back well before the Inquisition.  They were quite effective in the practice of genocide -- just ask the Cathars, Donatists, etc.... oh, wait, we can't, as they were hunted down and exterminated by the One True Church^TM.

Corruption doesn't mean the tenets of a religion are wrong or as evil as some practitioners.

Fair enough. However, Christianity...your Catholic hating aside, is a "corruption" of a faith, notable only in it's rarity of violence/genocide. Notable it was Protestants.. of the many varieties who "genocided" the Indian here in America. Care to role the dice on Church of England and the body count?

islam/muhamhead are evil and vile. They are the destroyers of Humanity. From the very inception of islams evil...by a rapist, genocidal,(and those are his redeeming points) ...pretty much scumbag...muhamhead. To today, juxtapose that with Jesus Christ... healing the severed ear of the man taking him to the Cross.

I am not so Christ like to not tell you to PISS OFF. Comparing islam to Christianity/Catholics.

A Simple Alter Boy.

[Silver Pines]

Which do you prefer, DL Roth or Hagar?

@Cyber Liberty

I have to go with DLR.  How about you?

[Silver Pines]

England can have the Stones, the Aussies AC/DC.

We got David, Eddie, Alex, Anthony, Billie, Dusty, and Rube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBzDKW3y2rw

@To-Whose-Benefit?

I've never heard that ZZ Top song---love it!

[Fantom]

@To-Whose-Benefit?

I've never heard that ZZ Top song---love it!

My fav ZZ... seems apropos.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isRa6wIMf1g

[TomSea]

Come on... Catholics have murdered unbelievers for their "heretical" faith for centuries of their history, going back well before the Inquisition.  They were quite effective in the practice of genocide -- just ask the Cathars, Donatists, etc.... oh, wait, we can't, as they were hunted down and exterminated by the One True Church^TM.

Corruption doesn't mean the tenets of a religion are wrong or as evil as some practitioners.

I don't buy this, and no wonder a  pro-choicer or liberal could write up such hate.

We'd all be bowing to Mecca if it weren't for Christianity, there was give and take on both sides.

The mods should look at this, we aren't suppose to be writing hateful unproven stuff like this.

This is a theological debate and I say you are wrong on this. This is what some reformation website might say, that doesn't mean it is so.

@moderator4
@Suppressed

If debate is allowed, I'll take on the debate but not here.  This is just Reformation Malarky. What it's doing on a thread on Benn Sasse, I have no idea.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

I have to go with DLR.  How about you?

Same.   

[TomSea]

The Albigensian Crusade resulted in the defeat of the Cathars militarily. After this, the Inquisition played an important role in finally destroying Catharism during the 13th and much of the 14th centuries.[9] Punishments for Cathars varied greatly. Most frequently, they were made to wear yellow crosses atop their garments as a sign of outward penance. Others undertook obligatory pilgrimages, many for the purpose of fighting against Muslims. Another common punishment, including for returned pilgrims, was visiting a local church naked once each month to be scourged. Cathars who were slow to repent suffered imprisonment and, often, the loss of property. Others who altogether refused to repent were burned.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition

Boy, what a genocide.

Also, if the Government of France invaded an area, the King and the royalty was often who was responsible, not the Catholic Church.

Many Catholics were burned at the stake too or beheaded, that's what they did in those days.

Look at the King of England, Thomas Moore and so on. This is real history but it shouldn't be in this section.