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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/nhs-provokes-fury-indefinite-surgery-ban-smokers-obese/

NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
by  Laura Donnelly, health editor
17 OCTOBER 2017 • 9:00PM

The NHS will ban patients from surgery indefinitely unless they lose weight or quit smoking, under controversial plans drawn up in Hertfordshire.

The restrictions - thought to be the most extreme yet to be introduced by health services - immediately came under attack from the Royal College of Surgeons.

Its vice president called for an “urgent rethink” of policies which he said were “discriminatory” and went against the fundamental principles of the NHS.

In recent years, a number of areas have introduced delays for such patients - with some told operations will be put back for months, during which time they are expected to try to lose weight or stop smoking.

But the new rules, drawn up by clinical commissioning groups (CCGs) in Hertfordshire, say that obese patients “will not get non-urgent surgery until they reduce their weight” at all, unless the circumstances are exceptional.

The criteria also mean smokers will only be referred for operations if they have stopped smoking for at least eight weeks, with such patients breathalysed before referral.

East and North Hertfordshire CCG and  Herts Valleys said the plans aimed to encourage people “to take more responsibility for their own health and wellbeing, wherever possible, freeing up limited NHS resources for priority treatment”.

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Re: NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2017, 09:14:35 pm »
Didn't see that coming.   *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 01:00:09 am »
So I'm sure that includes  diabetics and HIV?

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Re: NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 07:15:23 am »
And Congress is still sitting on their thumbs refusing to do anything about preventing the same from happening here by doing Nothing about repealing Obamacare.
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Re: NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 03:06:59 am »
My two lib step-daughters think the NHS is just wonderful,  and we should have the same thing over here. They're also both...uh....a little on the heavy side. I wonder if I should relay to them this news during the holidays.

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Re: NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 04:01:28 am »
And zey must change all ze light bulbs in ze haus to CFLs or zey vill never qualify for ze surgery!
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Re: NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese (UK)
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 04:18:05 am »
What part of "doctor's orders" don't they get? Tale of two patients:

Both slowly dying of liver cancer. Early-mid 50s.

Patient #1 keeps in best condition, does not smoke, ran and walked as long as he was able.

Patient #2 way over weight. Doctor tells  him to reduce, but he does not.

Patient #1 eventually has successful liver transplant.

Patient #2 never qualifies for transplant and dies, since he failed to follow doctor's orders.
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