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Offline Smokin Joe

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Re: Sheriff again shifts time gunfire started in Vegas massacre
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2017, 10:03:08 am »
Might as well just give up on justice with that kind of an answer. So we can't ever know what happened?

58 people died, time to think a little about others besides ourselves.
I haven't given up on justice,(ultimately, I believe we all will have that, mitigated by the forgiveness of Our Saviour if we invoke it) I just don't trust the same Federal investigative agency that has failed to prosecute over Fast and Furious, Tens of thousands of illegal (prima facie) official eMails, shady Arms deals through Benghazi, Solyndra, to name a few, and yet continues to piss down the Russian Rabbit Hole.

Maybe they can get a video from the CIA showing how his Corpus Callosum blew up in mid-Martini and sent him into a homicidal tailspin.

They have been right on top of every serious event, and I think some have been sting operations gone wrong. If they knew that this was the act of a Muslim Convert, for instance, would that information be released? Would that change if he guy had grown up a Wahhabist? How much Obama legacy is there in the agency that picks off women with sniper rifles and shoots old men with their hands up on the side of the road?
(In case you hadn't guessed, they have a long way to go before they ever restore credibility as an investigative or law enforcement agency with me.)

As for think about someone other than ourselves? Where did that come from Tom? About what?

The rest of us live with whatever grief or upset we have. The way to prevent the next incident does not exist. Someone will find a way to commit their particular mayhem, no matter what laws one passes (already laws against killing people, or just shooting them up), no matter what device someone bans (because there is always another way to skin a cat), but most of all, because some people jut don't give a rabid rat's patoot what the law says, for whatever reason or none at all.
That is why it is ever more important to not get knotted up in emotions and to not push any legislation in our grief. We have generations in perpetuity who will have to live with the results of any rash action. In that sense, waiting for the information to be sorted out and keeping a clear head IS thinking about someone other than ourselves. 
(edited to remove remark that may have been considered callous).
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 10:15:22 am by Smokin Joe »
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Re: Sheriff again shifts time gunfire started in Vegas massacre
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2017, 04:04:43 pm »
This major crime happened two weeks ago and the story is gone from the front pages. Why? Lack of interest? When has the media ever dropped a gun-violence-related story so quickly? I would like to know how they were able to clear him of any terrorist affiliations within in twelve hours of the shooting.

Why isn't the FBI doing the pressers? Why are they putting Lombardo in front of the cameras? This stinks.

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Re: Sheriff again shifts time gunfire started in Vegas massacre
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2017, 04:09:41 pm »
This major crime happened two weeks ago and the story is gone from the front pages. Why? Lack of interest? When has the media ever dropped a gun-violence-related story so quickly? I would like to know how they were able to clear him of any terrorist affiliations within in twelve hours of the shooting.

Why isn't the FBI doing the pressers? Why are they putting Lombardo in front of the cameras? This stinks.

I've the same questions @austingirl   Without reaching for the tin foil, I doubt we'll ever get full answers on what happened.

What's even more interesting to me is the lack of editorials demanding answers. 

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Re: Sheriff again shifts time gunfire started in Vegas massacre
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2017, 04:14:52 pm »
I've the same questions @austingirl   Without reaching for the tin foil, I doubt we'll ever get full answers on what happened.

What's even more interesting to me is the lack of editorials demanding answers.

I guess the press is following the most important story of all time- Harvey Weinstein.
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Re: Sheriff again shifts time gunfire started in Vegas massacre
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2017, 07:54:49 pm »
I've the same questions @austingirl   Without reaching for the tin foil, I doubt we'll ever get full answers on what happened.

What's even more interesting to me is the lack of editorials demanding answers.
All that bad press is bad for the casino bid'ness. Even accounts by the lady who wasn't wounded but who died suddenly afterward who had said she heard multiple shooters have been scrubbed from the original articles.

Like the little strip used to say "Sanitized for your protection."
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 07:55:12 pm by Smokin Joe »
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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