Having thrown out our core foundations as a people and a culture, only ruin lies ahead of us. The further this culture gets away from God and the Bible as a society, the further into tyranny we will go.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814
History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.
-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.
Liberty as intended for us, is a construct of biblical morality and more secular and hedonist we go - the greater despotism we will suffer. If you read the Founders - you would find a commonality in their warnings about keeping a republic: if this people will not be governed by God, they will be ruled by the tyranny of men. We are already comfortable with that, and more than half the population sees government as their god.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802
We are not going to become 'stronger than before' having discarded our only sure foundation for liberty's existence. Not unless you want to throw empire and rulers by force as a measure of greatness.
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814
Where do you come up with this shit? Where did I say anything about political discourse being healthy? I'm simply telling you that your party is dead is to me and as corrupt and Statist as the Democrat Party. How is that declaring political discourse unhealthy?
Look pal, it was the TRUMP fanatics who threatened us with hanging or firing squad for treason simply because of our refusal to vote for Trump or our criticisms of him - so if you want to tackle the subject of unhealthy political discourse - you can start there.
Knock yourself out. I'm done practicing insanity and want nothing to do with your party or anyone running in it.
Your party is already corrupted, compromised and taken over by statists who rewrote the rules at the last two conventions to prevent any possible change in the Leftist-Compromise direction of your party. The Republican Party is already the party of Big Brother.
You simply refuse to see it.
Oh the moral narcissism of it all....the surety of your own moral code being superior to the rest of us. Its breathtaking, a fine example of what is the opposite of Jesus teaching about humility. But that aside, just plain full of self righteousnes, self promotion, and a little butthurt over your guy Ted not winning the nomination. This isn't about god or morality...its about you and your feelings.
The basis of our freedom is common law, as Jefferson....our pre-eminent Founding Father...makes crystal clear. As for god and the bible and society...well...the teachings of Jesus are marvelous. That of many of his followers...not so much. Christianity in practice during its 1700 years of prominence has oppressed ....under the guidance of men ranging from Theodosius to Torquemada to the Borgia popes...free thought and freedom in general. The church has been an almost unrelenting force opposing freedom of thought and deed. Men like Galileo, Da Vinci, Newton, Hypatia, Sir Francis Bacon, Giordano Bruno, Copernicus, Kepler were all suppressed and in some cases murdered by Christianity.
As one very godly, brave and brilliant man once said...
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." I let Thomas Jefferson argue my case above...seemed fitting to let our greatest Founding Father handle this topic.
Christianity in the right hands can be a powerful force for good...a call to love and kindness in the world. Sadly, this has rarely been the case and it most certainly has not been a force moving societies towards democracy and personal freedoms. Thus, while they were Christians, the FF's for the most part were scornful of "institutions" of religion, be they Christian or otherwise..and its why many of them considered themselves Deists.
