Trump threatens to target licenses of 'NBC and the Networks' after nuclear arsenal report

[Cyber Liberty]

How can I believe you when you tell me that you love me when I know you've been a liar all your life.

'Cause you want me to lie to you, just one more time.... 

[Emjay]

Ya know, if the press was as interested in investigating Hollywood as they were in Sarah Palin's laundry, I have a job for them.

Check out the two 'ladies' who have accused the 94 year old former President.

Could someone have paid them to come up with this utter stupidity to try to take the heat off of Weinstein, etal?

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Relax.  I knew John Adams and you're no John Adams.

Actually, things are imploding all around us.

Hollywood is imploding the the lies and sex scandals coming out now that affects most of Hollywood.  Those who did it and those who covered it up.

The media is beginning to implode.  The implosion will be total if Hillary goes down and it looks like she's going down.

All that they worked for ... Obama, Hillary ... all proven to be frauds and crooks.

They might go back to being fair.

When was the media fair?

[Emjay]

'Cause you want me to lie to you, just one more time.... 

Yeah, baby, and make me believe it this time.

[DiogenesLamp]

Facebook censored me. Criticize your government and it might censor you too.

Facebook blocked a post of mine last month for the first time since I joined it nine years ago. I was seeking to repost a blog article I had written on Janet Reno, the controversial former attorney general who died last year. I initially thought that Facebook was having technical glitches (no novelty). But I checked the page and saw the official verdict: “Could not scrape URL because it has been blocked.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/27/facebook-censored-cross-your-countrys-government-and-they-might-censor-you-too-james-bovard-column/795271001/

[RoosGirl]

Facebook censored me. Criticize your government and it might censor you too.




https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/27/facebook-censored-cross-your-countrys-government-and-they-might-censor-you-too-james-bovard-column/795271001/

So what?  Start a conservative version of Facebook.

[DB]

So what?  Start a conservative version of Facebook.

Lefties want it both ways... Nothing new... They want to force you to "bake the cake" but they'll refuse you service in an instant if you say something they don't like.

Personally I think any business should be able to refuse service for any reason. It is as simple as freedom of association. You could make the case that a publicly owned business (one anyone can buy shares in) could be forced to a different standard in terms of who it is required to serve but not a privately held company.

[roamer_1]

Personally I think any business should be able to refuse service for any reason. It is as simple as freedom of association. You could make the case that a publicly owned business (one anyone can buy shares in) could be forced to a different standard in terms of who it is required to serve but not a privately held company.

That is precisely right! Liberty is not liberty if it is not liberty.

[RoosGirl]

Lefties want it both ways... Nothing new... They want to force you to "bake the cake" but they'll refuse you service in an instant if you say something they don't like.

Personally I think any business should be able to refuse service for any reason. It is as simple as freedom of association. You could make the case that a publicly owned business (one anyone can buy shares in) could be forced to a different standard in terms of who it is required to serve but not a privately held company.

Yep!  Maybe this thread will kindly die now.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yep!  Maybe this thread will kindly die now.

It's been tried....

[aligncare]

Yep!  Maybe this thread will kindly die now.

Wasn’t there a Do Not Resuscitate order in place?

[Sanguine]

Wasn’t there a Do Not Resuscitate order in place?

Tattooed on the breastbone. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wasn’t there a Do Not Resuscitate order in place?

Someone needs to post it again ....   

[DiogenesLamp]

Twitter Buried #DNCLeak, #PodestaEmails Tweets In Last Two Months Of Campaign

Twitter buried significant portions of tweets related to hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chair John Podesta in the last two months of the 2016 presidential campaign.

Twitter’s systems hid 48 percent of tweets using the #DNCLeak hashtag and 25 percent of tweets using #PodestaEmails, Twitter general counsel Sean Edgett said in his written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/twitter-buried-dncleak-podestaemails-tweets-in-last-two-months-of-campaign/



This is not what the founders had in mind when they wrote in protections for "Freedom of the Press."   They didn't envision a system of one party control of information. 

[Frank Cannon]

So NBC is now off the airwaves? That is the only reason I can see that this shitshow thread would still be alive.

What? They are still on the air? Well WTF.

[DiogenesLamp]

So NBC is now off the airwaves? That is the only reason I can see that this shitshow thread would still be alive.

What? They are still on the air? Well WTF.

The thread is useful as a repository of examples in which the intent of "free press"  has been turned on it's head by modern monopolistic control of systems for which it is not practical to create competition.   


Every time I see an example of monopolistic abuse of the system for reasons of propaganda,  I intend to post it here. 

[Frank Cannon]

The thread is useful as a repository of examples in which the intent of "free press"  has been turned on it's head by modern monopolistic control of systems for which it is not practical to create competition.   


Every time I see an example of monopolistic abuse of the system for reasons of propaganda,  I intend to post it here.

So this is going to be "Dem Plant II"? Gotcha.

[Cyber Liberty]

So this is going to be "Dem Plant II"? Gotcha.

Yup!  This is now the "Diogenes Media Bias/Pie Discussion" thread.  Join in!

[Sanguine]

Twitter Buried #DNCLeak, #PodestaEmails Tweets In Last Two Months Of Campaign





http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/twitter-buried-dncleak-podestaemails-tweets-in-last-two-months-of-campaign/



This is not what the founders had in mind when they wrote in protections for "Freedom of the Press."   They didn't envision a system of one party control of information.

Twitter is not the news.

[corbe]

   I'll, for one, miss NBC when Trump shuts them down.

[DiogenesLamp]

So this is going to be "Dem Plant II"? Gotcha.

I'm not following your jargon here.  What do you mean by "Dem Plant II"?   

[DiogenesLamp]

Twitter is not the news.

One of the topics I have debated for over a decade now is the tendency of people to draw artificial boundaries where none in fact exist.    People want to put stuff into categories,  such as "Chemistry"  or "Physics"  and treat them as if they are separate,  when in fact there is no real boundary between the one thing and another. 

We compartmentalize because it's mental short hand for juggling so many things in our lives.   


You say "Twitter"  is not "News",   and in one sense you are right,  but the scope of this discussion should not be limited to just "news",  because this issue touches on a whole host of related issues,  like "freedom of the press",  which is not specifically about "news"  either.   


Twitter is a massive corporation that has monopoly control on a system of communication that is heavily influential in the United States.     Facebook is another such entity,  and Google is another,  and the "news"  services are others as well.   


The common denominator is that they are big,  powerful,  liberal,  and they control the flow of information to censor conservative speech and opinions as well as news stories they see as damaging to liberals. 


There is really no conservative "competition"  for any of these behemoths,  and the nature of monopoly is such that they can effectively prevent any from  ever arising.   


I regard this situation as a dire threat to the nation and our future,  and I believe this existing system needs to be broken in such a way that it can't freeze out dissenting opinions. 

[Frank Cannon]

I'm not following your jargon here.  What do you mean by "Dem Plant II"?

Good God. The Dem Plant thread is legendary. You'll need to find one of the elders here to tell you the story one of these days.

[RoosGirl]

One of the topics I have debated for over a decade now is the tendency of people to draw artificial boundaries where none in fact exist.    People want to put stuff into categories,  such as "Chemistry"  or "Physics"  and treat them as if they are separate,  when in fact there is no real boundary between the one thing and another. 

We compartmentalize because it's mental short hand for juggling so many things in our lives.   


You say "Twitter"  is not "News",   and in one sense you are right,  but the scope of this discussion should not be limited to just "news",  because this issue touches on a whole host of related issues,  like "freedom of the press",  which is not specifically about "news"  either.   


Twitter is a massive corporation that has monopoly control on a system of communication that is heavily influential in the United States.     Facebook is another such entity,  and Google is another,  and the "news"  services are others as well.   


The common denominator is that they are big,  powerful,  liberal,  and they control the flow of information to censor conservative speech and opinions as well as news stories they see as damaging to liberals. 


There is really no conservative "competition"  for any of these behemoths,  and the nature of monopoly is such that they can effectively prevent any from  ever arising.   


I regard this situation as a dire threat to the nation and our future,  and I believe this existing system needs to be broken in such a way that it can't freeze out dissenting opinions.

Fat Farting Santa!  Then start your own conservative Twitter.

[DiogenesLamp]

Nets Refuse to Acknowledge Revelation That Dem Primary Was ‘Rigged’ for Clinton

In an essay for Politico on Thursday, former interim Democratic National Committee Chair Donna Brazile dropped a bombshell on the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign. In the piece, which was an excerpt from her upcoming book, Brazile exposed how “the DNC was rigging the system to throw the primary to Hillary” through a shady and ethically questionable financial arrangement. Even though it seemed like a plot in House of Cards, the Big Three Networks (ABC, CBS, and NBC) had a complete blackout of any mention of the news during their evening broadcasts.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2017/11/02/nets-refuse-acknowledge-revelation-dem-primary-was-rigged



Preventing the public from knowing the truth and thereby allowing them to make better voting decisions. 


The media censorship is all about benefiting liberal politicians who keep the Washington money spigot flowing. 

[txradioguy]

Nets Refuse to Acknowledge Revelation That Dem Primary Was ‘Rigged’ for Clinton






https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2017/11/02/nets-refuse-acknowledge-revelation-dem-primary-was-rigged



Preventing the public from knowing the truth and thereby allowing them to make better voting decisions. 


The media censorship is all about benefiting liberal politicians who keep the Washington money spigot flowing.

They actually screwed themselves on this one.

Their silence allowed the weaker of the two Liberal candidates to cheat her way to the nomination.

No Hillary as the Dem nominee = No Trump in the WH.

We probably would have seen a much different outcome on who the President is now had Sanders gotten the nomination.

[Cyber Liberty]

They actually screwed themselves on this one.

Their silence allowed the weaker of the two Liberal candidates to cheat her way to the nomination.

No Hillary as the Dem nominee = No Trump in the WH.

We probably would have seen a much different outcome on who the President is now had Sanders gotten the nomination.

It's hard to say for sure, @txradioguy.  Hillz brought money by the Steamer Trunk full to the game, and who knows if the Rats could have raised enough "Mother's Milk" without her.

[txradioguy]

It's hard to say for sure, @txradioguy.  Hillz brought money by the Steamer Trunk full to the game, and who knows if the Rats could have raised enough "Mother's Milk" without her.

Bernie was the fan favorite of the college crowd and that age voter. His womb to tomb message was very appealing to them.

Once he'd gotten the nomination the Styer's and Soros types would have dumped money into his campaign.

[Frank Cannon]

NBC had there ticket pulled yet? I hope not. I don't want to miss tonight's installment of Miami Vice.

[DiogenesLamp]

They actually screwed themselves on this one.

Their silence allowed the weaker of the two Liberal candidates to cheat her way to the nomination.

No Hillary as the Dem nominee = No Trump in the WH.

We probably would have seen a much different outcome on who the President is now had Sanders gotten the nomination.

I think Sanders would have likely won where Hillary could not.   But I think the fact that Hillary and "Clinton inc"   routinely do backstabbing and dirty dealing ought to be made known to the public.   I think the public needs to know what kind of evil scum they are,  and I believe it is detrimental to the nation to allow the "news"  media to censor information damaging to Democrats.   

[DiogenesLamp]

Bernie was the fan favorite of the college crowd and that age voter. His womb to tomb message was very appealing to them.

Once he'd gotten the nomination the Styer's and Soros types would have dumped money into his campaign.

I agree.  That is exactly what would have happened.   

[Cyber Liberty]

Bernie was the fan favorite of the college crowd and that age voter. His womb to tomb message was very appealing to them.

Once he'd gotten the nomination the Styer's and Soros types would have dumped money into his campaign.

Yeah, I think you're right.  And Bernie would have kept the GOP numbers up, so it would probably have been a wash.  Still can't predict what would have happened.

[DiogenesLamp]

I watched "Good Morning America"  today on ABC.   They showed the yearbook of Moore's accuser.   I noticed immediately that they showed the yearbook with the colors artificially manipulated so that you can't tell there are two different colors of ink used to sign the book. 






I believe they did this because it makes it far too obvious that something is wrong,  and they want people to believe there is nothing wrong with that yearbook signature.   They don't want reality getting in the way of people being made to believe what they want them to believe.   


They are lying by deliberately covering up the truth of the different colors of ink used in that writing.   


They are manipulating the "news"  by censorship.   

[kevindavis007]

So what?  Start a conservative version of Facebook.

I agree.. Don't like Facebook, start your own.

[DiogenesLamp]

I agree.. Don't like Facebook, start your own.

Makes as much sense as saying "if you don't like Hitler's constant propaganda calling for the extermination of the Jews,   Just don't listen."   


You do not understand how this "propaganda"  business works. 


It will get you destroyed if you allow it to continue without opposition.   

[RoosGirl]

Makes as much sense as saying "if you don't like Hitler's constant propaganda calling for the extermination of the Jews,   Just don't listen."   


You do not understand how this "propaganda"  business works. 


It will get you destroyed if you allow it to continue without opposition.

I have a big problem with what your idea of 'opposition' appears to be.

[DiogenesLamp]

I have a big problem with what your idea of 'opposition' appears to be.

I have attempted to induce anyone else to put some ideas on the table about how an opposition should be formed,   but no one seems to have any ideas except "Let's just keep being footballs."   


You have an idea?  Put it out there. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Censoring the News is how they manipulate elections. 




Media Stops Embargoing Coverage of Menendez Corruption Trial Just Long Enough to Say The Jury is Hung

Good thing they didn't report on all the corrupt money and trips flowing to Menendez and the big favors (like agitating for the government to give his "friend" millions in overbilled Medicaid charges), but only now nutshell it as "jury could not come to a conclusion on the charges, whatever they were (and don't worry about what they were, Ignorant Citizen)."

So, the Democrat cultists who voted to acquit him (I'm guessing they're Democrats) may have relied on a Supreme Court decision in the McDonnell corruption case stating that only quids directly linked to a quo count as corruption.

In this case, Menendez' "pal" Meglen plied him with lots of money and free jet rides to exotic locales, building up what you could be called "markers" to be called in later. But because these markers were not expressly, at the time they were handed out, stated to be For the Specific Purpose of Corrupt Action X, but were left blank, allowing Melgen to call them in for any favor, then it's... not bribery?

That makes no sense and essentially writes "bribery" out of the US Code entirely.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372554

[aligncare]

Censoring the News is how they manipulate elections. 




Media Stops Embargoing Coverage of Menendez Corruption Trial Just Long Enough to Say The Jury is Hung



http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372554

In light of current news events, perhaps the headline writers should have considered using instead the phrase: “the jury failed to reach a verdict.”

[RoosGirl]

I have attempted to induce anyone else to put some ideas on the table about how an opposition should be formed,   but no one seems to have any ideas except "Let's just keep being footballs."   


You have an idea?  Put it out there.

I did already.  It's actually a form of opposition and not oppression that can be used against you if/when the tables turn.

[DiogenesLamp]

I did already.  It's actually a form of opposition and not oppression that can be used against you if/when the tables turn.

So it is less trouble for you to just tell me you already told me,  than just saying what it is? 



Because I don't remember you saying anything on this topic that I regarded as having even a slight chance of addressing the problem.   

[RoosGirl]

So it is less trouble for you to just tell me you already told me,  than just saying what it is? 



Because I don't remember you saying anything on this topic that I regarded as having even a slight chance of addressing the problem.   

Try looking back at Reply #884 that you commented on and restarted this whole pointless conversation.

[aligncare]

Hung conversation.

[RoosGirl]

Hung conversation.

LOL  Yep.

[aligncare]

LOL  Yep.

   I’m sure I speak for the majority, when I say we’ve all had a few of those and they never seem end well.

[RoosGirl]

  I’m sure I speak for the majority, when I say we’ve all had a few of those and they never seem end well.

I've considered starting an argument on this thread just to get it locked, even if I have to sacrifice myself for a few days.   

[corbe]

    @DiogenesLamp

You have an idea?  Put it out there.

   I realize you weren't asking me, specifically, but I do have a plausible solution. 
   It worked as recently as September 2016.  Hijack an existing party that is more in line with your views.
   Movement must be seen by/in early 2019, immediately after the midterms, by early 2020 the bird will have flown, again.
   Here's my Candidate.

[corbe]

   Let's make it a group

I've considered starting an argument on this thread just to get it locked, even if I have to sacrifice myself for a few days.   

   I'm In @RoosGirl wait till after 9PM EST when the Mods are more apt to be watching Matlock or sleeping. 
   Let's burn this baby down call up your usual suspects.

[Mod1]

   Let's make it a group
   I'm In @RoosGirl wait till after 9PM EST when the Mods are more apt to be watching Matlock or sleeping. 
   Let's burn this baby down call up your usual suspects.

I'm game, but it's fair to warn you I'm getting bored by all this.

[RoosGirl]

I'm game, but it's fair to warn you I'm getting bored by all this.