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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #400 on: September 29, 2017, 11:22:44 pm »

Advocacy of the ability of the Court to create 'rights' would make the majority opinion of the Court have the weight of Scripture, and that is something even the weighted scales of 'justice' cannot balance.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #401 on: September 29, 2017, 11:40:22 pm »

The protection of the unborn is implicit in the constitution.    It is not because there was an intention to allow harm to come to the unborn that there are no words about it in the constitution,  it is because no one at the time would have conceived that any such thing would ever be allowed,  and so there was no need to explicitly write a prohibition against it.   

Actually, in a technical manner, since the Constitution assumes responsibility for legal documents and treaties precedent to it's signing, the Constitution itself is beholden to enforce the Declaration of Independence as precedence, making the specifically enumerated, and foremost, Right to Life explicit.

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The idea of killing ones own child is not even comprehensible to the culture of 1787,  and to argue that they ever intended to allow such a thing is either terrible ignorance,  or a blatant lie. 

Indeed. A woman of that era would naturally say, "I don't care what happens to me... save my baby!" It is writ, hailed, and lauded as the preeminent example of the honor of a woman.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #402 on: September 29, 2017, 11:46:31 pm »
This forum operated very well from 2009 until recently, with a consistent policy of avoiding religion.

That was in part a follow up from the horrific treatment given Mormons and Mormonism on the mothership, FR.

This joint is trending like that joint, at its worst. That is on the religion topic. In my view.


Swell.  Another rant on how TBR has gone all to Hell since we let "them" in.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #403 on: September 30, 2017, 12:07:07 am »
Swell.  Another rant on how TBR has gone all to Hell since we let "them" in.

Sometimes it's fun being the fly in the ointment.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #404 on: September 30, 2017, 12:13:50 am »
Sometimes it's fun being the fly in the ointment.
Or, as I like to say, a Balrog in the Woodpile.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #405 on: September 30, 2017, 12:19:57 am »
Or, as I like to say, a Balrog in the Woodpile.

I am rather more like a Balrog than a fly.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #406 on: September 30, 2017, 12:30:25 am »
I am rather more like a Balrog than a fly.

Yeah.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #407 on: September 30, 2017, 12:31:28 am »
Look how pretty and clean my teeth are.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #408 on: September 30, 2017, 01:38:22 am »

I am decent when it comes to typing out my thoughts.   I am poor at extemporaneous verbal commentary.   Cruz would beat me handily.   :)
The verbal part is the mark of a politician.  We need the non-verbal types too.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #409 on: September 30, 2017, 01:39:18 am »
I don't see that he and Cruz would have too much to argue about!
They could argue about which football team will win or the best type of beer in the world, or something like that.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #410 on: September 30, 2017, 01:44:53 am »

Please show me where the USSC has a "separation of church and state."

See the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

See also the Free Exercise Clause.  This is especially pertinent to the Fourth Branch of government.  The Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise clause exhibit a degree of balance which defines our entire system of government.


See Everson v. Board of Education

You do realize that the "separation-of-church-and-state" crowd LOST the Everson case, right?  This has been pointed out to you repeatedly, yet you continue to recite it in knee-jerk fashion, completely ignorant of what the case was about (even though it has been explained to you again and again).


See Lemon v. Kurtzmann

Ah, the Lemon test.  Now you're getting somewhere.  The Court ruled that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania could not subsidize the salaries of Catholic school teachers even though there was ZERO Constitutional prohibition against it.   Once again, your position is at odds with what the Constitution actually says (in contrast with what you wish it said).

Of course there is also Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free School District as well as Good News Club v. Milford Central School.  In both of these cases, the High Court ruled that the Establishment Clause could not be used for the purpose of viewpoint discrimination, which is exactly what you are doing.  Maybe you should do some research and learn a few things before blindly offering up liberal talking points.  I get a big chuckle every time you mention Everson.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #411 on: September 30, 2017, 02:25:45 am »
Looks like this is the briefingroom's "Seinfeld thread" of the day!

I'll say this -- hopefully appropriate to the thread title.

I'd like to see Mr. Moore in Mitch McConnell's position.
How's dat ???

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #412 on: September 30, 2017, 02:29:21 am »
Looks like this is the briefingroom's "Seinfeld thread" of the day!

They all are.  ^-^
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #413 on: September 30, 2017, 02:30:11 am »
See the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.


See also the Free Exercise Clause.  This is especially pertinent to the Fourth Branch of government.  The Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise clause exhibit a degree of balance which defines our entire system of government.


You do realize that the "separation-of-church-and-state" crowd LOST the Everson case, right?  This has been pointed out to you repeatedly, yet you continue to recite it in knee-jerk fashion, completely ignorant of what the case was about (even though it has been explained to you again and again).


Ah, the Lemon test.  Now you're getting somewhere.  The Court ruled that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania could not subsidize the salaries of Catholic school teachers even though there was ZERO Constitutional prohibition against it.   Once again, your position is at odds with what the Constitution actually says (in contrast with what you wish it said).

Of course there is also Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free School District as well as Good News Club v. Milford Central School.  In both of these cases, the High Court ruled that the Establishment Clause could not be used for the purpose of viewpoint discrimination, which is exactly what you are doing.  Maybe you should do some research and learn a few things before blindly offering up liberal talking points.  I get a big chuckle every time you mention Everson.

Circular argument is all he knows and I, for one, have no more time for that.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #414 on: September 30, 2017, 05:58:36 am »

I'd like to see Mr. Moore in Mitch McConnell's position.
How's dat ???

Curled up in the fetal position sucking his thumb while wetting himself?
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #415 on: September 30, 2017, 02:08:57 pm »
@jpsb @txradioguy

I will tell you how. First off Trump dumped on beloved Sessions, that set in motion the thought that Trump wasn't as perfect as a lot of Trumpbots (in bama) thought.


@roamer_1

You really haven't told me anything.

A lot of the people that voted for Trump voted for Moore. If most of the people that voted for Trump
voted for Strange than Strange would have won.

As for "beloved" Jeff Sessions, thus far he has been a BIG ZERO in helping Trump "drain the swamp". Recusing himself
and allowing Muellers appointment was one of the biggest political mistakes I've ever seen. He's lucky Trump
did not fire his dumb a$$. I used to be a big fan of Jeff Sessions now not so much.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #416 on: September 30, 2017, 02:12:07 pm »
Not everybody is as attached to their avatars as you and I are.    ^-^

Ok that settles it I am going to have to find myself a cool avatar.

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #417 on: September 30, 2017, 03:14:10 pm »
Ok that settles it I am going to have to find myself a cool avatar.

I likes it!
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #418 on: September 30, 2017, 03:18:34 pm »
Ok that settles it I am going to have to find myself a cool avatar.

Daffy Duck???   :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #419 on: September 30, 2017, 03:19:21 pm »
Ok that settles it I am going to have to find myself a cool avatar.

You mean you don't have one already?   :pondering:

I was convinced you had the coolest one of all...the Invisible Man and none of us were smart enough to figure it out.  :laugh: ^-^ :tongue2:
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #420 on: September 30, 2017, 03:29:02 pm »
Daffy Duck???   :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:

Definitely Wiley Coyote.

Okay. Rethinking...Roadrunner.
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #421 on: September 30, 2017, 03:50:46 pm »
Daffy Duck???   :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #422 on: September 30, 2017, 04:07:12 pm »
A lot of the people that voted for Trump voted for Moore. If most of the people that voted for Trump
voted for Strange than Strange would have won.

That's not proven, nor is it pertinent.

26% of the national population voted for Tump.
That is nothing to brag about.

Out of that 26%, there is a very large number of voters that are merely 'Anyone but Hillary', so the actual Tump faithful don't seem very large. Loud, obnoxious, but not many. Shoot, y'all just BARELY got it done, even with the Hillary-revulsion.

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As for "beloved" Jeff Sessions, thus far he has been a BIG ZERO in helping Trump "drain the swamp". Recusing himself
and allowing Muellers appointment was one of the biggest political mistakes I've ever seen. He's lucky Trump
did not fire his dumb a$$. I used to be a big fan of Jeff Sessions now not so much.

I'm not a big fan of Sessions - What's his ACU, high 70's? But his recusal was the right thing to do. But don't let the principle of the thing get in the way, eh?

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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #423 on: September 30, 2017, 10:26:14 pm »
@Sighlass
Heck I don't remember every posting to you before (until this thread)  so thats special.   I've certainly made mistakes before but do try to own up to them.   Maybe you've gotten confused on which profile  you're using.

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Are you saying I have multiple accounts here? If so, you are even more disillusion than I thought. Ask the admins here. One of them has access to IPs... Mine has never changed, because I don't play that game. Don't waste my time on this sort of junk.

And I don't see what was so "special" it was THIS thread you misrepresented what I said. Thus the reason I asked you not to put words in my mouth (and quote me next time you wanted to).
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Re: McConnell, GOP Senate brace for Roy Moore
« Reply #424 on: September 30, 2017, 10:32:11 pm »
@driftdiver

Are you saying I have multiple accounts here? If so, you are even more disillusion than I thought. Ask the admins here. One of them has access to IPs... Mine has never changed, because I don't play that game. Don't waste my time on this sort of junk.

@driftdiver I've talked to @Sighlass over at TOS and here.  One of the very best and not a game player.