Schumer, Pelosi say deal reached with Trump for DACA protections

[bilo]

I can't support Trump if he starts making liberal deals simply because he's Trump.

No more than I can support the GOP if it starts making liberal deals simply because they are Republican. That's what the Establishment has been commanding me to do for decades now.

 

[aligncare]

Then why all the angst by the dreamers thinking they will soon be deported....

Trump tweeted a message to the folks that signed up for DACA: don't worry for the next 6-months. A legal solution to the illegal DACA program is on the way. But, I'd worry too knowing this Obama–created mess must still wind it's way through the courts and congress. And don't forget, this is politics and dreamers are being manipulated by democrat leaders and the media for maximum effect.

[bilo]

Trump's fault for making the deal and lying to the people that voted for him.

Trump lying to the voters is no different than the Pubs lying to the voters. They both ran on ending DACA, building a wall, deporting criminals, and reforming immigration. If they don't follow through on these campaign promises they deserve to not only be criticized, but also voted out of office.

[skeeter]

This is the main reason why I told @DCPatriot that Trump annoys me.

I'm not going to bash the man for every little thing, that's counterproductive, but we hear he's working on DACA, it's back to congress, asking for help from Pelosi and Schumer.
Then his press secretary says the basically same thing yesterday, and says, "he's is for responsible immigration reform, always has been," when asked about amnesty, said "including that. Then the dinner, where the Dems says he is working on DACA with them.

Then a report comes out where he said no to dreamers.“No deal was made last night on DACA,” Mr. Trump said.
Followed by a President Trump tweet where he says the dreamers are here through no fault of their own, have jobs, serve in the military, and "Does anybody really want to throw out...." Plus BIG border security.
Also, that the wall is being built, in form of renovation of old and existing fences and walls, and will continue to be built.
Not sure if he is referring to just the refurbishment continuing, or adding more, kind of hard to tell hard.

I can agree with the President and 10 minutes later disagree with him, on the same subject, because it changes so often.
That is what I find annoying.

Its in his book - be all things to all people and they're putty in your hands.

I think he's gotten about as much mileage out of that philosophy as he's gonna get. Its gonna go sour very quickly now.

[driftdiver]

Seriously I wanna know who the chumps are that expect politicians to do anything but lie. 

Cause I have a bridge to sell them.

Who cares what they said to get elected, I care what they do NOW.

[bilo]

Who cares about the Dreamers!   Stop letting the demonrats define the agenda.   There are an estimated 800k dreamers and what 30 million illegals.    Give the dreamers a green card, fine them, and make them pay taxes under their own SSN.    Then deport ALL the illegals that haven't self deported after you make it impossible for them to work.

Once these adults have green cards they can have family members join them. It's not going to be 800,000. The end result will be millions and then the Rats will start the mantra "if they are paying taxes and they've been here almost all their lives they should be allowed to vote, it's only fair".

[Applewood]

Trump lying to the voters is no different than the Pubs lying to the voters. They both ran on ending DACA, building a wall, deporting criminals, and reforming immigration. If they don't follow through on these campaign promises they deserve to not only be criticized, but also voted out of office.

I am tired of the talking point that the Republicans in Congress are frustrating Trump's agenda and must be primaried.  If the inability to repeal Obanacare, stem the flow of illegals and so on is the fault of Republicans, then Trump, as a Republican, must share the blame.  And come 2020, Trump himself should be primaried.

[bilo]

@catfish1957

They won't throw in the towel.  One of them tipped their hand earlier when they made the comment they could care less if Trump is conservative much less a Republican...they only want to see the GOP blown to bits and Trump is their guy to do it...even if it means following him to the hard line Liberal left they won't ever criticize or find fault in him.

Why should the Pub party be saved. They've lied and cheated us for decades. They finally have a majority across the board and still won't fulfill any of their major party platform promises.

They don't deserve our support.

[driftdiver]

Once these adults have green cards they can have family members join them. It's not going to be 800,000. The end result will be millions and then the Rats will start the mantra "if they are paying taxes and they've been here almost all their lives they should be allowed to vote, it's only fair".

@bilo
Sure they can, subject to the law IF its enforced.   That will take them 10 years and many wont go to the effort.

Make it so illegals cant work and they will self deport.

[GrouchoTex]

Once these adults have green cards they can have family members join them. It's not going to be 800,000. The end result will be millions and then the Rats will start the mantra "if they are paying taxes and they've been here almost all their lives they should be allowed to vote, it's only fair".

That is my fear as well.

[jpsb]

Its in his book - be all things to all people and they're putty in your hands.

I think he's gotten about as much mileage out of that philosophy as he's gonna get. Its gonna go sour very quickly now.

I voted for candidate Trump because I liked what had to say on a number of issues, immigration in particular. If he breaks his promises on immigration/Wall he will lose his base and be a failed one term president.

[bilo]

I am tired of the talking point that the Republicans in Congress are frustrating Trump's agenda and must be primaried.  If the inability to repeal Obanacare, stem the flow of illegals and so on is the fault of Republicans, then Trump, as a Republican, must share the blame.  And come 2020, Trump himself should be primaried.

You're right.

Everyone should be accountable. The Pub party has no party disciple (inculding the POTUS he ran as a Pub). If they don't follow through on their promises they should be primaried and if that fails they should not be voted for in the general election.

[XenaLee]

Seriously I wanna know who the chumps are that expect politicians to do anything but lie. 

Cause I have a bridge to sell them.

Who cares what they said to get elected, I care what they do NOW.

Anyone that.... especially by this point, does not fully expect politicians (all of em) to lie to us about anything and everything ..... is not just getting played.  They're playin themselves.

I have no faith in ANYONE in DC at this point in our demise.   It sucks, but it is the glaring reality that we are facing.

[INVAR]

Who cares what they said to get elected, I care what they do NOW.

So if they govern as a radical marxist, you are perfectly okay with that because you didn't care what they said to get elected.

Gotcha.

So now everyone understands how we got into this mess - from voters like who think and vote just like you.

[skeeter]

I voted for candidate Trump because I liked what had to say on a number of issues, immigration in particular. If he breaks his promises on immigration/Wall he will lose his base and be a failed one term president.

A strong case can be made that the DACA issue may be one where we would've actually been better off with Hillary. There would've been no need for the Democrats to make an issue of legalizing them had she won - they already have their vote.

Amnesty seems to only be an issue when republicans are in the White House.

[Oceander]

Cult of personality

[XenaLee]

Once these adults have green cards they can have family members join them. It's not going to be 800,000. The end result will be millions and then the Rats will start the mantra "if they are paying taxes and they've been here almost all their lives they should be allowed to vote, it's only fair".

That is, of course, the desired end result and the method behind the madness of the DemocRats.  Just like.... single-payer is still the desired end result behind the madness of ObamaCare.  The problem is... most people don't see several moves ahead like the rats/leftists always do.  If America falls, it will be due to massive stupidity and that very same tunnel vision inability to 'see clearly'.

[bilo]

That is my fear as well.

You can see it happening step by step. It's also part of the reason the Rats are fighting the wall. A real wall would reduce the inflow dramatically so even when we have a Rat POTUS who ignores the law it will be harder for the next wave to come. The Rats want a never ending inflow so they can replenish their ranks with a new batch of govt dependent voters.

This country has no will to deport the majority of people who are hear illegally. Our only hope is to stop the future inflow without a wall it won't happen. They can pass a whole bunch of laws, but if they aren't enforced what good are they?

[bilo]

I voted for candidate Trump because I liked what had to say on a number of issues, immigration in particular. If he breaks his promises on immigration/Wall he will lose his base and be a failed one term president.

My wife voted for him to stop hillary. I didn't vote for him, but I've tried to be objective in my support and criticism.

For my wife and I not getting obamacare repealed ended any future support for the Pubs.

Not getting the wall built and immigration straightened out will end any support for Pres. Trump.

[bilo]

Anyone that.... especially by this point, does not fully expect politicians (all of em) to lie to us about anything and everything ..... is not just getting played.  They're playin themselves.

I have no faith in ANYONE in DC at this point in our demise.   It sucks, but it is the glaring reality that we are facing.

Then why vote for any of them, or give them any campaign contributions?

[XenaLee]

You can see it happening step by step. It's also part of the reason the Rats are fighting the wall. A real wall would reduce the inflow dramatically so even when we have a Rat POTUS who ignores the law it will be harder for the next wave to come. The Rats want a never ending inflow so they can replenish their ranks with a new batch of govt dependent voters.

This country has no will to deport the majority of people who are hear illegally. Our only hope is to stop the future inflow without a wall it won't happen. They can pass a whole bunch of laws, but if they aren't enforced what good are they?

However..... walls can and will be breached.  With yet another Rat POTUS that ignores the laws the wall breaches will not be repaired and it will be the equivalent of having "no wall" again anyway.... even after all those millions (or more) having been spent.   

The problem right now is .... with Trump angsting over Dreamers like a damned liberal.... many on the right will probably refuse to vote for him 'again' in 2020.  They will figure 'what's the point'?  Might as well sit home and let the rats have it ....since....they seem to have the power right now anyway, since nothing is getting done towards conservative policies.  Many, if not most, will do a protest non-vote in 2020, IOW.

[XenaLee]

Then why vote for any of them, or give them any campaign contributions?

No reason I can think of.  Call me a pessimist.... but 8 months in.... what do we (on the right) really have to show for having control of all three branches?  Nothing is happening (but DACA and helping Dreamers, that is) towards OUR agenda.   You might want to ask yourself why that is.  (Hint:  It's no mere accident of happenstance)

[Silver Pines]

Or maybe Chuck and Nancy are trying to put words into Trumps mouth.

@jpsb


David Limbaugh‏ @DavidLimbaugh  28m28 minutes ago

 So far, Trump has avoided accountability to his base and is moving to appease his sworn enemies. Never has a “base” been more forgiving.


CNN Politics‏Verified account

President Trump: Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell "agree with us on DACA" http://cnn.it/2fkCqwu


Stephen Miller‏Verified account @redsteeze  1h1 hour ago
Stephen Miller Retweeted CNN Politics

"Agree with us"

[Silver Pines]

Trump's tweets

IMHO he never had any intention of *throwing out the dreamers* that he campaigned on...

As far as *the deal* I will wait and see what exactly it is...right now I don't believe Chuck, Nancy or Donald in that order...

@mystery-ak

Agreed.  Remember, he met with a bunch of "dreamers" a couple of years ago and said they'd convinced him.

[Free Vulcan]

Then why vote for any of them, or give them any campaign contributions?

Alot of state level GOP elected officials are doing a stand up job...and that's where my money goes.