Democrats ready more demands after surprise win with Trump

[XenaLee]

A three year old child brought here 20 or 30 years ago has no home country to be sent back to. This is the only country he/she knows.

Are they still here illegally?  Have they done anything towards becoming 'legal' citizens?  If not, why not?   Are they working and if so, are they paying taxes?  How?  Are illegals being given social security numbers?  Or are they using someone else's SSN?  If they working and are not paying taxes, why should they enjoy the same freedoms and benefits that others that ARE paying taxes have earned?  That's a whole lotta wrongs that the idiot left is trying to emotionally portray as rights.  I'm not buying into it.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things.  Bringing in or allowing yet more illegals into the country, that we can ill afford to support, is definitely the wrong way.  Dealing with the ones already here is a difficult issue.  But as far as I'm concerned, if they are here and legally paying taxes and ie paying into the system, that's a step in the right direction.

[roamer_1]

@AbaraXas

We just had Harvey and we are going to get Irma, FEMA was broke this deal gets FEMA money FEMA badly needed. Is that OK with you?

NO, IT'S NOT! Holding Huston hostage is bullshit, all the way around. But raising the debt ceiling, which almost literally translates into printing even more money, is the farthest thing possible from the 'thing to do'.

[roamer_1]

Firstly.... what Trump has tried and what Trump has accomplished are two very different things. 

And absolutely beside the point. He's a con... Showing you his right hand. Which means what you ought to be doing is looking at his left hand. Just because he 'tries' doesn't mean he means it.

I have always said he's for single-payer health, and I think he deliberately made voting for repeal more impossible. Now he likes a plan that is moving it toward single payer health... Go figger.

Same with amnesty. It will be Gang-of-Eight all over again.

Same with TPP and Paris agreement, which everyone says is dead. But it's not. It;s merely being renegotiated. They are cards to play.

Watch and see.

[Emjay]

Hey....did you hear Pelosi state that Trump promised her his approval of the Dream Act?  I read that just yesterday.   Hmmm....

is it a lie, is it Pelosi unhinged as usual, or....is it the truth.  Time will tell.

Here's another article on it, this time with the "promised" part missing...lol.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pelosi-says-asked-trump-tweet-comfort-daca-recipients-144830047.html

Trump has done quite a few good things that I can't remember but read about at the time.  Little things but they add up and all conservative.

However, when discussing Trump, we have to remember that he is working with many, many limitations.  He's literate but barely.  He only knows one adjective (very) and he uses it to an embarrassing degree.  He's impulsive and impatient.  He's vain and sensitive.  He knows how to reach people and can make a decent speech.  He'd be better off doing that frequently than tweeting but I think tweeting is a release that he NEEDS when he wakes up at 3 AM brooding about stuff.

So considering that I'm still thinking he's doing fairly well.

[Smokin Joe]

Nothing really. I guess I was secretly envious of the kids whose parents could afford to buy them shoes.

And put money in them!!

[jpsb]

Are they still here illegally?  Have they done anything towards becoming 'legal' citizens?  If not, why not?   Are they working and if so, are they paying taxes?  How?  Are illegals being given social security numbers?  Or are they using someone else's SSN?  If they working and are not paying taxes, why should they enjoy the same freedoms and benefits that others that ARE paying taxes have earned?  That's a whole lotta wrongs that the idiot left is trying to emotionally portray as rights.  I'm not buying into it.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things.  Bringing in or allowing yet more illegals into the country, that we can ill afford to support, is definitely the wrong way.  Dealing with the ones already here is a difficult issue.  But as far as I'm concerned, if they are here and legally paying taxes and ie paying into the system, that's a step in the right direction.

Folks brought here a small children that are now adults is a hard nut to crack. I would have a very hard time deporting them. The USA is all they know. Now all those "children" Obama imported? They are going back if I have anything to say about it.

[Emjay]

And put money in them!!

Our thing was ballet slippers with no hose or sox even when there was snow on the ground.

[jpsb]

NO, IT'S NOT! Holding Huston hostage is bullshit, all the way around. But raising the debt ceiling, which almost literally translates into printing even more money, is the farthest thing possible from the 'thing to do'.

"Let them eat cake" huh? Not helping victims of natural disasters is going to be a very hard sell. Good luck selling that.

[XenaLee]

Folks brought here a small children that are now adults is a hard nut to crack. I would have a very hard time deporting them. The USA is all they know. Now all those "children" Obama imported? They are going back if I have anything to say about it.

Agreed.

[XenaLee]

Trump has done quite a few good things that I can't remember but read about at the time.  Little things but they add up and all conservative.

However, when discussing Trump, we have to remember that he is working with many, many limitations.  He's literate but barely.  He only knows one adjective (very) and he uses it to an embarrassing degree.  He's impulsive and impatient.  He's vain and sensitive.  He knows how to reach people and can make a decent speech.  He'd be better off doing that frequently than tweeting but I think tweeting is a release that he NEEDS when he wakes up at 3 AM brooding about stuff.

So considering that I'm still thinking he's doing fairly well.

You're giving him more credit than I am right now... but then I'm pissed about his latest embracing of Lil Chucky, I guess.  I'm just not seeing any of those "great deals" he promised to make on major issues.  If you find one, please do inform me of it.  I'll be thrilled.  And no, I do not mean 'great deals' for the DemocRATS....lol.

[jpsb]

And put money in them!!

LOL a penny? I liked them they were very comfortable. Nice soft leather.

[Emjay]

You're giving him more credit than I am right now... but then I'm pissed about his latest embracing of Lil Chucky, I guess.  I'm just not seeing any of those "great deals" he promised to make on major issues.  If you find one, please do inform me of it.  I'll be thrilled.  And no, I do not mean 'great deals' for the DemocRATS....lol.

The last few days have been heck but I'm still hopeful.  Discouraged but hopeful.  Guess the next month or so will tell the tale.

[skeeter]

Folks brought here a small children that are now adults is a hard nut to crack. I would have a very hard time deporting them. The USA is all they know. Now all those "children" Obama imported? They are going back if I have anything to say about it.

How will we know who fits the former catagory? The ICE has declared that over 40% of DACA applicants are known frauds. There is no way to catch all of them.

I'm afraid legalzation of some means legalization of all.

[XenaLee]

The last few days have been heck but I'm still hopeful.  Discouraged but hopeful.  Guess the next month or so will tell the tale.

True.  The last two weeks have been hell for folks in certain areas, in fact.  And .....considering that the anniversary of 9/11 is just two days away....and nobody is really talking about it.... would I be paranoid in wondering why nobody is talking about it?   

[Cripplecreek]

The whole thing is starting to remind me of a crack head I knew who would get "kidnapped" by his dealer once a week so the crackhead could coerce money out of his parents.

[roamer_1]

"Let them eat cake" huh? Not helping victims of natural disasters is going to be a very hard sell. Good luck selling that.

No. Stop the bullcrap and throw up a clean bill on a roll call vote.
What's next? Now that this has settled this way, what's Florida going to cost us? How big of a porkulus are you willing to swallow for that?

[Smokin Joe]

Our thing was ballet slippers with no hose or sox even when there was snow on the ground.

All I can say is I would have been in one heck of a lot more fights if I had worn those. Better off barefoot...

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Nothing really. I guess I was secretly envious of the kids whose parents could afford to buy them shoes.

^-^ ^-^
Tell me about it.  My parents took me and my brother graverobbing to dig up some shoes for school, but and we only found one pair that fit.

So my brother and I had to alternate on which days we could go to school for 5 years, and 3 grades.

[roamer_1]

Our thing was ballet slippers with no hose or sox even when there was snow on the ground.

Mocs for me.
but I'd switch to muks in the winter...
slick bottomed mocs on ice and snow, I'd be spending a whole lot of time falling down.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Folks brought here a small children that are now adults is a hard nut to crack. I would have a very hard time deporting them. The USA is all they know. Now all those "children" Obama imported? They are going back if I have anything to say about it.

Were they here illegally?

If so, the solution is simple.

If there parents were also here illegally, then they all go back to their homeland.

[LMAO]

Trump appears to be heading into John McCain mindset here. Like McCain, Trump seeks affirmation. I guess we all do. The Democrats know this and that's why they will put more demands on him. Shower him with praise and they will get most of what they want. The problem is the likes of Schumer and Pelosi are Exhibit A and B of what ails this country.

[Wingnut]

Democrats ready more demands after surprise win with Trump.


Looks like he took his football away and is playing with people who want to work!.   

[LMAO]

Democrats ready more demands after surprise win with Trump.


Looks like he took his football away and is playing with people who want to work!.

I have no doubt the Democrats want to to work

It's what they want to work on is what worries me. What baffles me about this is McCain is excoriated for his willingness to work with the DNC and Jeb's admission that he would also was seen as a  disqualifying factor for POTUS.

Trump works with the two worse Democrats and he's praised

[Chosen Daughter]

Are they still here illegally?  Have they done anything towards becoming 'legal' citizens?  If not, why not?   Are they working and if so, are they paying taxes?  How?  Are illegals being given social security numbers?  Or are they using someone else's SSN?  If they working and are not paying taxes, why should they enjoy the same freedoms and benefits that others that ARE paying taxes have earned?  That's a whole lotta wrongs that the idiot left is trying to emotionally portray as rights.  I'm not buying into it.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things.  Bringing in or allowing yet more illegals into the country, that we can ill afford to support, is definitely the wrong way.  Dealing with the ones already here is a difficult issue.  But as far as I'm concerned, if they are here and legally paying taxes and ie paying into the system, that's a step in the right direction.

This is how.  IRS issues ITIN tax ID to illegal immigrants.  They can get $1,000 month child tax credit.  I work with an illegal woman who got a $10,000.00 tax return.  They can also get bank accounts.  Take out mortgages and new car loans.........etc.

http://www.itinnumberonline.com/how-to-get-tax-id-number-for-illegal-immigrants/

[Chosen Daughter]

Were they here illegally?

If so, the solution is simple.

If there parents were also here illegally, then they all go back to their homeland.

They should.  And believe me not all those people are poor people.  Some of them own homes in Mexico and in the United States.  Using the special ITIN numbers that IRS gives them to take root in the United States and create debt.