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North Korea Touts Its More Advanced H-Bomb
« on: September 03, 2017, 12:38:47 am »
SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Sunday it has developed a more advanced nuclear weapon that has "great destructive power" and leader Kim Jong Un inspected a hydrogen bomb that will be loaded on a new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).

The report by North Korea's official KCNA news agency comes amid heightened regional tension following Pyongyang's test launch of two ICBM-class missiles in July that potentially had a range of about 10,000 km (6,200 miles) that could hit many parts of the mainland United States.

Under its leader Kim Jong Un, North Korea has pursued work on building nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic missiles that can deliver them at an unprecedented pace, defying U.N. sanctions and international pressure.

Experts and officials have said North Korea could conduct its sixth nuclear test at any time, and that the reclusive country has maintained a readiness at its nuclear test site to conduct another detonation test at any time.

The hydrogen bomb's power is adjustable to hundreds of kilotons and can be detonated at high altitudes, with its indigenously produced components allowing the country to build as many nuclear weapons as it wants, KCNA news agency said.

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 12:40:47 am »
Personally, I seriously doubt this. So far, all of their nuclear tests have pointed to fizzles, probably due to their P240 contamination in their fissile material.

It's entirely possible they've gotten their hands on a design. However, having the technical know-how and ability to assemble it is quite different.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 02:06:07 am »


I cannot tell if they are preparing for war or a kegger.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2017, 12:33:38 pm »


The diagram in the background of the device is similar to the one above.  They've constructed a mockup of how they think it should look, based on available information.  Our compact warheads, the W-87/88, weigh about 800lbs.  This is an obvious fake, based on the flimsy stand upon which the device is perched.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2017, 03:11:06 pm »
North Korea continues down the same path – successfully tests hydrogen bomb   

1 hour ago by Jake Gambino   


Sunday morning, North Korea conducted a hydrogen bomb test. China reported seismic activity from North Korea. Japan and South Korea began to send sniffers to check for radiation and surveil known compounds. North Korea went on to broadcast that they tested a hydrogen bomb within about an hour.

Initial estimates put it at around one hundred kilotons. For reference, the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima was 15 kilotons.

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2017, 04:06:26 pm »
Here's why I'm calling BS on their miniaturization claims.  They only have around 25 million people existing in a closed off nation.  They don't have the base for technical people necessary to make the leap from crude fission to sophisticated fusion in ten years, as they claim. 

Most likely, their device is the size of our old B53 thermonuclear weapon. It weighed 4 tons and had a yield of 9 Mt, but their material and workmanship is giving them a fraction of that.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2017, 05:18:32 pm »
I'm seeing a lot of breathless reporting on this, but I have a hard time believing they have a Hydrogen bomb, and that there was a successful test. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2017, 05:33:11 pm »
I'm seeing a lot of breathless reporting on this, but I have a hard time believing they have a Hydrogen bomb, and that there was a successful test.

They probably did test one, expecting a bigger yield, but had a result similar to the British test of their Green Granite device in the late 50s.  That bomb was nowhere near the size small enough to be on a missile.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2017, 05:47:24 pm »
Here's why I'm calling BS on their miniaturization claims.  They only have around 25 million people existing in a closed off nation.  They don't have the base for technical people necessary to make the leap from crude fission to sophisticated fusion in ten years, as they claim. 

Most likely, their device is the size of our old B53 thermonuclear weapon. It weighed 4 tons and had a yield of 9 Mt, but their material and workmanship is giving them a fraction of that.

They have money and the assistance of Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and China.

For years the NKs have been poo poor and yet they keep proving people wrong.  It's time to stop underestimating them.
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I cannot tell if they are preparing for war or a kegger.

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2017, 05:54:37 pm »
I don't think that one guy has a NOKO regulation Hair Cut.   






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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2017, 06:34:14 pm »
They have money and the assistance of Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and China.

For years the NKs have been poo poor and yet they keep proving people wrong.  It's time to stop underestimating them.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2017, 08:03:54 pm »
They have money and the assistance of Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and China.

For years the NKs have been poo poor and yet they keep proving people wrong.  It's time to stop underestimating them.

I'd probably be more concerned if they could actually feed themselves.

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2017, 01:50:53 am »
I'd probably be more concerned if they could actually feed themselves.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/31/hungry-north-korean-soldiers-ordered-steal-corn-ready-war-kim/

The important people have plenty of food. 

America still has starving people.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2017, 02:35:51 am »
The important people have plenty of food. 

America still has starving people.

The "important" people will be in bunkers getting toasted by the GBU-57.  The starving front line troops will be surrendering to TV drones, just like the Iraqis in 1991.  The poor in America have access to food banks, soup kitchens, and SNAP benefits.  Nobody here is boiling grass and bark to survive.  In fact, many under the poverty line in the US are obese.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2017, 02:41:49 am »
The "important" people will be in bunkers getting toasted by the GBU-57.  The starving front line troops will be surrendering to TV drones, just like the Iraqis in 1991.  The poor in America have access to food banks, soup kitchens, and SNAP benefits.  Nobody here is boiling grass and bark to survive.  In fact, many under the poverty line in the US are obese.

Many of those bunkers are under granite mountains.  Good luck.  You might take out the entry but it will take a bit more to take them out.

I'm not trying to compare the intentional starving of hundreds of thousands there to here but many many people are starving in the us.  Yes some get food stamps.  Many don't.

Regardless the important people in NK have plenty of food.  If they need more they take it from the poor.  Kim has all the luxuries a man could want and so do his supporters.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2017, 02:53:26 am »
Many of those bunkers are under granite mountains.  Good luck.  You might take out the entry but it will take a bit more to take them out.

The GBU-57 was designed to take out the facility in Iran at Fordow.  The exact specs are classified, but the bomb is reported to be able to penetrate 200 feet of reinforced concrete. Those bunkers inside the mountain will be their luxury tomb.
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2017, 02:58:54 am »
Many of those bunkers are under granite mountains.  Good luck.  You might take out the entry but it will take a bit more to take them out.

I'm not trying to compare the intentional starving of hundreds of thousands there to here but many many people are starving in the us.  Yes some get food stamps.  Many don't.

Regardless the important people in NK have plenty of food.  If they need more they take it from the poor.  Kim has all the luxuries a man could want and so do his supporters.

I agree totally that the elite in North Korea have a sweet deal.

But where are these starving people in the US of which you speak?  Is there a link?

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2017, 04:56:33 am »
I agree totally that the elite in North Korea have a sweet deal.

But where are these starving people in the US of which you speak?  Is there a link?

Is there a link?   Are you really that foolish?
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2017, 05:04:11 am »
Is there a link?   Are you really that foolish?

Well, now that you mentioned it, I am sort of wondering where there are Americans eating grass, bark and shoe leather, as was implied.
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2017, 05:14:04 am »
They probably did test one, expecting a bigger yield, but had a result similar to the British test of their Green Granite device in the late 50s.  That bomb was nowhere near the size small enough to be on a missile.

Our first hydrogen bomb was about the size of a small locomotive engine.



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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2017, 05:34:55 am »
I'm seeing a lot of breathless reporting on this, but I have a hard time believing they have a Hydrogen bomb, and that there was a successful test.

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