Hurricane Harvey Public Advisory

[Sanguine]

Current predictions for the Brazos River at West Columbia, is to continue rising until Wednesday.  This is downstream of us.

@thackney, please excuse this question if it's too intrusive, but do they give any estimates as to when you might be able to go back?

[thackney]

@thackney, please excuse this question if it's too intrusive, but do they give any estimates as to when you might be able to go back?

The best prediction is the Brazos River prediction at Rosharon, FM1462.  I suspect we need to get close to 51 ft before I can get to the house.

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=hgx&gage=rost2&prob_type=stage&source=hydrograph

[Suppressed]

Good thing is that I doubt you'll have looters going in by boat!

The best prediction is the Brazos River prediction at Rosharon, FM1462.  I suspect we need to get close to 51 ft before I can get to the house.

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=hgx&gage=rost2&prob_type=stage&source=hydrograph

Wow...that's such slow recession. 

You need to get this guy out to your neighborhood...

http://i.imgur.com/p6zqBy8.mp4

[Sanguine]

The best prediction is the Brazos River prediction at Rosharon, FM1462.  I suspect we need to get close to 51 ft before I can get to the house.

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=hgx&gage=rost2&prob_type=stage&source=hydrograph

Wow. 

[Polly Ticks]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/this-is-probably-the-worst-us-flood-storm-ever-and-ill-never-be-the-same/

Holy cow.  That is astounding.

[roamer_1]

Hey.
If everybody bought a couple cases...

[austingirl]

Houston mayor encouraging those living in flooded homes on second or third floor to leave because flood waters are not receding for 10-15 days. Not a mandatory evacuation at this time.

[Hoodat]

Heading back to Corpus tomorrow.

[AllThatJazzZ]

Heading back to Corpus tomorrow.

Do you know what damages you have? What shape the city is in??

I've felt badly for those on down the coast because the coverage of Houston and then the Golden Triangle area has kind of sucked up all the media oxygen. At least, I think so. It's hard to know how things are being covered across the country being here in the Houston market. But it does seem like y'all didn't get the attention you should have because of the dynamic nature of the events up here.

Give us an update when you can.

[Sanguine]

Do you know what damages you have? What shape the city is in??

I've felt badly for those on down the coast because the coverage of Houston and then the Golden Triangle area has kind of sucked up all the media oxygen. At least, I think so. It's hard to know how things are being covered across the country being here in the Houston market. But it does seem like y'all didn't get the attention you should have because of the dynamic nature of the events up here.

Give us an update when you can.

Yes, ditto that.

[Suppressed]

Arkedelphia, Arkansas, Fire Department using a boat engine to put out a house fire in Houston:
http://i.imgur.com/GM5eFa7.mp4

[AllThatJazzZ]

To my fellow Texans:

Isn't it a comfort to have a capable leader as a Governor at a time like this?

Pray for our leaders. They have so much on their shoulders right now.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

The Marines sent in the big guns now.  Can you imagine something weighing 30 tons that is buoyant that is not a ship?
All About the Giant Amphibious Vehicles the Marines Sent to Texas

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a28026/marines-giant-amphibious-vehicles-houston-texas-hurricane/?src=nl&mag=pop&list=nl_pnl_news&date=090117

[GrouchoTex]

Brazos crest this morning in Richmond.
Drove from Sugar Land to Katy the last 2 days.
Drove down 99.
It backed up from 10 to Westheimer, both ways.
This and 610 west loop are the only open north south highways open on the west side of Houston right now.
Beltway 8 and Hwy 6 are closed.
Beltway from I-10 south to Briar Forest.
Hwy 6 from Clay road south to Briar Forest.
The mayor has asked for voluntary evacuations in an area east of Hwy 6, south of I-10, west of Gessner, and north of Briar Forest.
Buffalo Bayou has gone down, but likely will stay above flood stage for the next 10 to 15 days, while they release waters from Addicks and Barker reservoirs.

[AllThatJazzZ]

@Hoodat

Everytime I read your tagline, this comes to my mind...

More Than Conquerors/
Count it all Joy
by Janny Grein
(lyrics included)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bG6m0_A5k8

[Smokin Joe]

Heading back to Corpus tomorrow.

Prayers up for y'all.

[Victoria33]

Yes, ditto that.

@Sanguine

Gov. Abbott said today gasoline trucks are coming from New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Louisiana to north Texas so we have gasoline.  He said if you see these trucks, pull over so they get to north Texas faster.

I have a dear friend in Corpus Christi.  Spoke to him earlier this week and he said it wasn't that bad there when it came in.  The house wasn't flooded and they have power.  He said they were much better off than the rest of southeast Texas.  It was Rockport that was devastated.  Now, it is most of southeast Texas that is terrible for people to try to live.

Water and food is getting scarce in some places.  This is not over.  Trucks bring food to every grocery store in your area.  If they can't get there, no food arrives.  If the grocery store is flooded out, it can't open to sell the food.  If people can't get their money out of a bank/flooded ATMs, they have no money to buy the food which isn't there in a store that is closed due to flooding.  Our lives are connected to this which is connected to that which is connected to that which is connected to that.

I hope this terrible happening never happens again to any part of this country.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine

Gov. Abbott said today gasoline trucks are coming from New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Louisiana to north Texas so we have gasoline.  He said if you see these trucks, pull over so they get to north Texas faster.

I have a dear friend in Corpus Christi.  Spoke to him earlier this week and he said it wasn't that bad there when it came in.  The house wasn't flooded and they have power.  He said they were much better off than the rest of southeast Texas.  It was Rockport that was devastated.  Now, it is most of southeast Texas that is terrible for people to try to live.

Water and food is getting scarce in some places.  This is not over.  Trucks bring food to every grocery store in your area.  If they can't get there, no food arrives.  If the grocery store is flooded out, it can't open to sell the food.  If people can't get their money out of a bank/flooded ATMs, they have no money to buy the food which isn't there in a store that is closed due to flooding.  Our lives are connected to this which is connected to that which is connected to that which is connected to that.

I hope this terrible happening never happens again to any part of this country.

It's going to be quite difficult for a long time.  But, we will get through.  And, it will be a very valuable, hard-won lesson in reality and what's really important for many people. 

[Elderberry]

Water and food is getting scarce in some places.  This is not over.  Trucks bring food to every grocery store in your area.  If they can't get there, no food arrives.  If the grocery store is flooded out, it can't open to sell the food.  If people can't get their money out of a bank/flooded ATMs, they have no money to buy the food which isn't there in a store that is closed due to flooding.  Our lives are connected to this which is connected to that which is connected to that which is connected to that.

[Victoria33]

@Elderberry

Don't know why you would be afraid of the truth.  Storing extra food/water for an emergency is much better than being fearful.

[Smokin Joe]

@Elderberry

Don't know why you would be afraid of the truth.  Storing extra food/water for an emergency is much better than being fearful.

Normalcy bias, defined. "That can't possibly happen here!"

The only problem with stores of food and water is that they can get contaminated, too. The problem with not having them is that you do without. We keep both on hand, and we're about as far from salt water as you can get in North America. (140 miles from the geographic center of North America)

[thackney]

Satellite Imagery of Harvey Flooding after the storm.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/harvey/index.html

[Elderberry]

Satellite Imagery of Harvey Flooding after the storm.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/harvey/index.html

That is a flood alright.

I'm downloading some of the imagery taken during the storm. I curious to what I'll see.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Satellite Imagery of Harvey Flooding after the storm.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/harvey/index.html

Doesn't appear to be all after the storm, as my old neighborhood in Braeswood which flooded seems to be dry in picture.

[Elderberry]

Doesn't appear to be all after the storm, as my old neighborhood in Braeswood which flooded seems to be dry in picture.

It looks like the large square satellite image in the mosaic was from pre-flooding.

[Victoria33]

Normalcy bias, defined. "That can't possibly happen here!"

The only problem with stores of food and water is that they can get contaminated, too. The problem with not having them is that you do without. We keep both on hand, and we're about as far from salt water as you can get in North America. (140 miles from the geographic center of North America)

@Smokin Joe

Food and water should be stored off the floor, the higher up the better.   In a two story house, put them on the second floor.  My house is 100 miles from the coast but a hurricane coming in the coast of Texas is coming to my house and food/water is going away as it has done time after time.

[Hoodat]

Satellite Imagery of Harvey Flooding after the storm.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/harvey/index.html

Ingleside and Aransas Pass are marked over.  Hope to see it for myself later today.

[Sanguine]

Ingleside and Aransas Pass are marked over.  Hope to see it for myself later today.

Oh, good.  Please let us know how it is down there.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Glad to see Trump on the ground handing out food.

[Sanguine]

Standing right beside you?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Standing right beside you?

on msnbc.

[Sanguine]

Ok, that's cryptic.

[thackney]

Doesn't appear to be all after the storm, as my old neighborhood in Braeswood which flooded seems to be dry in picture.

It after the storm, but not the peak for flooding for our area as well.  The Brazos River road about two more feet at FM1462.

[roamer_1]

Got this over IM... can't source it, but...

Let this sink in for a minute.....Hundreds and hundreds of small boats pulled by countless pickups and SUVs from across the South are headed for Houston. Almost all of them driven by men. They're using their own property, sacrificing their own time, spending their own money, and risking their own lives for one reason: to help total strangers in desperate need.

Most of them are by themselves. Most are dressed like the redneck duck hunters and bass fisherman they are. Many are veterans. Most are wearing well-used gimme-hats, t-shirts, and jeans; and there's a preponderance of camo. Most are probably gun owners, and most probably voted for Trump.

These are the people the Left loves to hate, the ones Maddow mocks. The ones Maher and Olbermann just *know* they're so much better than.

These are The Quiet Ones. They don't wear masks and tear down statues. They don't, as a rule, march and demonstrate. And most have probably never been in a Whole Foods.

But they'll spend the next several days wading in cold, dirty water; dodging gators and water moccasins and fire ants; eating whatever meager rations are available; and sleeping wherever they can in dirty, damp clothes. Their reward is the tears and the hugs and the smiles from the terrified people they help. They'll deliver one boatload, and then go back for more.

When disaster strikes, it's what men do. Real men. Heroic men. American men. And then they'll knock back a few shots, or a few beers with like-minded men they've never met before, and talk about fish, or ten-point bucks, or the benefits of hollow-point ammo, or their F-150.

And the next time they hear someone talk about "the patriarchy", or "male privilege", they'll snort, turn off the TV and go to bed.

In the meantime, they'll likely be up again before dawn. To do it again. Until the helpless are rescued. And the work's done.

They're unlikely to be reimbursed. There won't be medals. They won't care. They're heroes. And it's what they do.

Taken from a well spoken dude just like most of us.

There's such a difference here... between Harvey and Katrina... I know some of it is optics - I know the attitude described above was present all over Mississippi, and Louisiana and all over the South after Katrina. And that media focus was almost entirely on NO... But this stuff just makes me so proud of all y'all. Harvey hadn't even quit yet, and y'all were out there helping each other... Texans were already heading toward the damage before  the rain even quit... And the South came arunnin... the Cajun Navy... and the lower midwest...

I know y'all are getting drug through a knothole backwards, I know it hurts. But there ain't nothin I have ever seen that shows such can-do spirit, such a strong willed, good attitude in the face of the worst sort of adversity... Such an inbuilt desire - a near instinct - to do right by your fellow man... There is not a better example of why you damn well better not mess with Texas.

The rescue folks just come a'runnin. and the logistics folks - food, housing, lodging for the rescue folks just step right on up... It just amazes me and gives me hope in the goodness of men toward each other. Thank you Texas, for showing folks how it's done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU_hznRUPqQ&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=3K3A4eVEP6s

[Sanguine]

Thanks, @roamer_1, that choked me up a bit.

[berdie]

I know y'all are getting drug through a knothole backwards, I know it hurts. But there ain't nothin I have ever seen that shows such can-do spirit, such a strong willed, good attitude in the face of the worst sort of adversity... Such an inbuilt desire - a near instinct - to do right by your fellow man... There is not a better example of why you damn well better not mess with Texas.

Thank you for the post @roamer_1 . I am the first to admit that I'm a little bit emotional right now and can cry at the drop of a hat (not my normal at all) but it made me tear up pretty good. About the time I become a total cynic...something like this comes along to remind me how very, very good most people really are.


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[Smokin Joe]

Got this over IM... can't source it, but...

There's such a difference here... between Harvey and Katrina... I know some of it is optics - I know the attitude described above was present all over Mississippi, and Louisiana and all over the South after Katrina. And that media focus was almost entirely on NO... But this stuff just makes me so proud of all y'all. Harvey hadn't even quit yet, and y'all were out there helping each other... Texans were already heading toward the damage before  the rain even quit... And the South came arunnin... the Cajun Navy... and the lower midwest...

I know y'all are getting drug through a knothole backwards, I know it hurts. But there ain't nothin I have ever seen that shows such can-do spirit, such a strong willed, good attitude in the face of the worst sort of adversity... Such an inbuilt desire - a near instinct - to do right by your fellow man... There is not a better example of why you damn well better not mess with Texas.

The rescue folks just come a'runnin. and the logistics folks - food, housing, lodging for the rescue folks just step right on up... It just amazes me and gives me hope in the goodness of men toward each other. Thank you Texas, for showing folks how it's done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU_hznRUPqQ&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=3K3A4eVEP6s

Thanks for passing that on, @roamer_1 ! SO true!

[Elderberry]

                                               

[Elderberry]

Beaumont refilling water plant as part of temporary fix

12 News Now by Stephen Adams, KBMT


http://www.12newsnow.com/weather/hurricane/beaumont-refilling-water-plant-as-part-of-temporary-fix/470335671

The City of Beaumont announced late Saturday afternoon that six water pumps were in place refilling the city's water plant, which is treating the water before pumping it out to homes that have been without clean water for days.
 
"There will be periodic interruptions in water service as well as changes in water pressure throughout the plant startup process," Beaumont Mayor Becky Ames wrote in a statement. "Once water pressure is restored, it is imperative to follow the guidelines of the boil water notice."
 
12 News Now has a comprehensive set of instructions posted here for what to do once your water is restored.
 
Mayor Ames said utilities staff have been working around the clock since Aug. 31 to restore water to Beaumont residents. The mayor thanked ExxonMobil, Echo Construction, and Jefferson County Drainage District 6 for their cooperation in working to restore water -- adding Tiger Industries responded quickly with pumps and extended new lines to the plant.

[thackney]

FEMA has established a “Rumor Control” website:

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-harvey-rumor-control

[RetBobbyMI]

FEMA has established a “Rumor Control” website:

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-harvey-rumor-control

Who runs that web site? CNN? Does anyone really believe what the Feds feed the public? I worked for them for 40 years and saw first hand how they manipulate information to suit their own goals, not that of the taxpayers.

[austingirl]

@thackney @Elderberry @Bigun @Elderberry @LadyLiberty

How are y'all doing? Prayers continue for you. Please update your status. Hope I didn't leave anyone out who is in the affected area.

[thackney]

@thackney @Elderberry @Bigun @Elderberry @LadyLiberty

How are y'all doing? Prayers continue for you. Please update your status. Hope I didn't leave anyone out who is in the affected area.

Thank you for asking.  We are safe and sound.  We still can not get to our home.  I talked to a National Guard at the street last night.  Water is still over the road about 1/2 before our place.

Today we are at our church service and feeling blessed.

[catfish1957]

@thackney @Elderberry @Bigun @Elderberry @LadyLiberty

How are y'all doing? Prayers continue for you. Please update your status. Hope I didn't leave anyone out who is in the affected area.

Snifff Sniff!  31 inches of rain, but high and dry.

[LadyLiberty]

@thackney @Elderberry @Bigun @Elderberry @LadyLiberty

How are y'all doing? Prayers continue for you. Please update your status. Hope I didn't leave anyone out who is in the affected area.

Thanks for asking, we are fine and that's all I want to say because I don't want to risk sounding like I am gloating.  There are others badly in need right now.  I am going to my cousin's home to help them start their mud out.

To quote what an old black man told me at the shelter "God gives, even when he takes."

[Elderberry]

@thackney @Elderberry @Bigun @Elderberry @LadyLiberty

How are y'all doing? Prayers continue for you. Please update your status. Hope I didn't leave anyone out who is in the affected area.

@austingirl
We are doing fine. We had to dry out one car. Just upholstery, nothing major. Wife's back to work at Sam's. Daughter's working from home. She's working non-stop. She works for an independent insurance agency. She's on the commercial side and their building has network problems. AT&T has no clue when it'll be fixed. Her work IT guy set up a VPN tunnel for her to my machine. So, I'm bumped off most the day.  Lots of claims coming in.

[thackney]

I may have to order one of these:



https://warrior12.com/shop/texas-crusader-storm-crus-ah144/

[libertybele]

I may have to order one of these:



https://warrior12.com/shop/texas-crusader-storm-crus-ah144/

Awesome!!         Continued prayers for those in TX.

[austingirl]

To quote what an old black man told me at the shelter "God gives, even when he takes."

That is an inspiration. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.

[anubias]

Thanks, @roamer_1, that choked me up a bit.

Me too. Flooded my eyes.