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Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« on: August 21, 2017, 03:47:47 pm »
The governor of Oregon signed Democrat (and even Republican) supported gun control legislation that would allow authorities to strip firearms from law-abiding citizens.

The bill, signed Wednesday by Gov. Kate Brown, would permit state authorities to seize the firearms of anyone who has been determined as a threat to themselves or others – without any judicial process at all.

The intent is to reduce the number of gun-related suicides, which has been on the rise recently in the state, but Second Amendment advocates were incensed.

The legislation supposedly closes two “loopholes” in the state’s gun laws. Currently, the state police have three days to figure out if a potential gun buyer has cleared a background check before the sale must go through. Now, that waiting period can extend indefinitely.

Another section would ban firearm possession – or allow confiscation – from anyone who has been the subject of a restraining order by filed by a significant other.


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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 04:12:18 pm »
The governor of Oregon signed Democrat (and even Republican) supported gun control legislation that would allow authorities to strip firearms from law-abiding citizens.

The bill, signed Wednesday by Gov. Kate Brown, would permit state authorities to seize the firearms of anyone who has been determined as a threat to themselves or others – without any judicial process at all.

The intent is to reduce the number of gun-related suicides, which has been on the rise recently in the state, but Second Amendment advocates were incensed.

The legislation supposedly closes two “loopholes” in the state’s gun laws. Currently, the state police have three days to figure out if a potential gun buyer has cleared a background check before the sale must go through. Now, that waiting period can extend indefinitely.

Another section would ban firearm possession – or allow confiscation – from anyone who has been the subject of a restraining order by filed by a significant other.


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And considering how state authorities are "deeming and determining" things these days..... 

that could be applied to pretty much any, if not all, of us.  This is just one moist-dream of the radical left.  It's the first step towards their ultimate goal.
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 04:14:42 pm »
And considering how state authorities are "deeming and determining" things these days..... 

that could be applied to pretty much any, if not all, of us.  This is just one moist-dream of the radical left.  It's the first step towards their ultimate goal.
This is how Nazi Germany stripped all guns from its citizens.

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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 04:18:10 pm »
Hopefully someone fights it.   The lack of due process seems to be a problem to this non-lawyer.
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2017, 04:18:25 pm »
There's too little due process and too much bureaucratic judgement here. At the very least, a confiscation should automatically result in a hearing.

Also not having a cutoff to withholding sales after a background check doesn't even sound constitutional.
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2017, 04:21:34 pm »
In addition to violating the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution...it appears the Governor is now in violation of Section 9 (Unreasonable searches or seizures.) and Section 27 (Right to bear arms;) of her own states bill of Rights.   **nononono*

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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2017, 04:43:16 pm »
In addition to violating the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution...it appears the Governor is now in violation of Section 9 (Unreasonable searches or seizures.) and Section 27 (Right to bear arms;) of her own states bill of Rights.   **nononono*
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2017, 04:47:27 pm »
I hope the NRA takes this Oregon law to the Supreme Court.

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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 04:47:41 pm »
I look forward to the upcoming Supreme Court review.
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 04:49:24 pm »
This is how Nazi Germany stripped all guns from its citizens.

Who are the Nazis now?

To be completely fair, Germany already had a gun ban prior to the Nazi's taking power as a result of the WWI armistice. The Nazis didn't confiscate guns but only allowed those they 'deemed worthy to acquire them. This is just as disturbing because by making this right accessible to only those that helped them with power, it allowed the weakest citizens who weren't favored by the State to be victims- of even their neighbors.

In other words, when a protected class is the only one allowed to have rights, those who don't have rights become a mortal victim. Firearms (in general the right to defend oneself to the degree that they are threatened or could be oppressed) are the great equalizer of classes and peoples.

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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 04:52:54 pm »
Firearms (in general the right to defend oneself to the degree that they are threatened or could be oppressed) are the great equalizer of classes and peoples.

Case in point:

Steubenville, OHIO: Judge Bruzzese wounded in ambush shooting; Suspect dead

The judge apparently returned fire against his attacker.
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 04:55:02 pm »
I look forward to the upcoming Supreme Court review.

That's where it will hopefully end up.  It's nit like the 9th Circus will overturn the law as being unconstitutional or anything.
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 04:57:40 pm »
... <snip> nit <snip> 9th Circus ...

I love that little Freudian slip!
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 05:27:37 pm »
The governor of Oregon signed Democrat (and even Republican) supported gun control legislation that would allow authorities to strip firearms from law-abiding citizens.

The bill, signed Wednesday by Gov. Kate Brown, would permit state authorities to seize the firearms of anyone who has been determined as a threat to themselves or others – without any judicial process at all.

The intent is to reduce the number of gun-related suicides, which has been on the rise recently in the state, but Second Amendment advocates were incensed.

The legislation supposedly closes two “loopholes” in the state’s gun laws. Currently, the state police have three days to figure out if a potential gun buyer has cleared a background check before the sale must go through. Now, that waiting period can extend indefinitely.

Another section would ban firearm possession – or allow confiscation – from anyone who has been the subject of a restraining order by filed by a significant other.


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Who decides who is a threat to themselves or others? By what criteria? Feelings???
With all the snowflakes out there, that's a pretty low bar. Some people feel threatened by the mere presence of others, with no overt action or communication.

Since this is the opening gambit in a lot of nasty divorces, even ones where no abuse or threat has been made, I can see widespread effects far beyond anything approaching just diminishing threats.
Extending background checks indefinitely is a clear violation of the RKBA, as well as other statutes.

I predict that people will get killed because of this law, because they will be denied acdess to the means to defend themselves, for starters, and yet others will die over the arms being confiscated.

If someone really wants to commit suicide, they will find a way. Some truck driver, train engineer, or other person will instead suffer the trauma and consequences of that if other means are unavailable, along with family and friends of the deceased. Apparently the real motive is disarming the populace in the face of increasing violence from Antifa and fellow travelers. 
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 06:05:23 pm »

Who are the Nazis now?

According to the article, democrats and republicans.

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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 06:29:52 pm »
Hopefully someone fights it.   The lack of due process seems to be a problem to this non-lawyer.

Agreed.

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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2017, 07:51:03 pm »

If someone really wants to commit suicide, they will find a way. Some truck driver, train engineer, or other person will instead suffer the trauma and consequences of that if other means are unavailable, along with family and friends of the deceased.

One day years ago I skipped Spanish class (to go shooting).  While I was away a guy walked into the building I was supposed to be in and shot several people.  Of course, the usual calls for gun control followed.

What set the guy off was that he didn't get some award he thought he deserved with his new PhD in Physics.  I've always suspected that if he hadn't had access to a gun he still would have gone off using other means.  I've only had a couple simple Physics classes, so I don't really know what he studied, but I suspect he had some abilities to do very bad things without a gun.

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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2017, 08:05:44 pm »
One day years ago I skipped Spanish class (to go shooting).  While I was away a guy walked into the building I was supposed to be in and shot several people.  Of course, the usual calls for gun control followed.

What set the guy off was that he didn't get some award he thought he deserved with his new PhD in Physics.  I've always suspected that if he hadn't had access to a gun he still would have gone off using other means.  I've only had a couple simple Physics classes, so I don't really know what he studied, but I suspect he had some abilities to do very bad things without a gun.

About a year ago a guy walked into a crowded train station and killed over 30 people with a knife.  Happened in china
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Re: Oregon governor signs gun confiscation bill into law
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2017, 08:44:10 pm »
The bill, signed Wednesday by Gov. Kate Brown, would permit state authorities to seize the firearms of anyone who has been determined as a threat to themselves or others –

While you're at it, you might want to seize their car along with any steak knives they may happen to have in their kitchens.
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