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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2017, 06:19:02 pm »
Just between you and me @DCPatriot , I do wish the President would turn all international affairs back to his Secretary of State.

Too many cooks really do spoil the broth.

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I agree with you.  I'm hoping that Tillerson's invisibility is him taking some time to lay groundwork and clean up State.  But I doubt it.

But in all seriousness, and this isn't just a cheap shot, I believe Trump lives for chaos in his organizations.  Look at his history...he's all about internal conflict.  So I don't expect the turmoil to end.  I think the symptoms might be temporarily tamped down, but The Don has shown that he can't be repressed for long.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2017, 06:30:00 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

But in all seriousness, and this isn't just a cheap shot, I believe Trump lives for chaos in his organizations.  Look at his history...he's all about internal conflict.  So I don't expect the turmoil to end.  I think the symptoms might be temporarily tamped down, but The Don has shown that he can't be repressed for long.

With all due respect @Suppressed these talking points are growing stale. (And of course it's a cheap shot) 

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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2017, 06:40:47 pm »
With all due respect @Suppressed these talking points are growing stale. (And of course it's a cheap shot)

@Right_in_Virginia, stale only because they haven't been refuted and still stand.

Look at the evidence of things that obviously excite him...  The Apprentice, the WWE, etc.  His casino operations.  His relationships with contractors.

Evidence, @Right_in_Virginia...evidence.  Not just dismissing out of hand.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2017, 07:00:18 pm »
Look at the evidence of things that obviously excite him...  The Apprentice, the WWE, etc.  His casino operations.  His relationships with contractors.  Evidence, @Right_in_Virginia...evidence.  Not just dismissing out of hand.

You only find "evidence" that supports what you want to believe.  Your "evidence" is an amalgam of innuendo, armchair pseudo-psychiatrists, NT vitriol and liberal wet dreams.  Calling this "evidence" dishonest would be gracious to a fault.   

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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2017, 07:02:16 pm »
You only find "evidence" that supports what you want to believe.  Your "evidence" is an amalgam of innuendo, armchair pseudo-psychiatrists, NT vitriol and liberal wet dreams.  Calling this "evidence" dishonest would be gracious to a fault.   

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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2017, 07:03:48 pm »
If McMaster says that is not Israel's land, he needs to read the book of Genesis.  Arabs want the Israelis pushed into the ocean.  God takes a dim view of that. This is the struggle between Isaac and Ishmael (Isaac Jew, Ishmael Arab) that has been going on since the time of Abraham.

Zechariah 12 (New Jerusalem Bible)

2 'Look, I shall make Jerusalem a cup to set all the surrounding peoples reeling. (That will be at the time of the siege of Jerusalem.)

3 'When that day comes, I shall make Jerusalem a stone too heavy for all the peoples to lift; all those who try to lift it will hurt themselves severely, although all the nations of the world will be massed against her.

4 When that day comes -- declares Yahweh -- I shall strike all the horses with panic and their riders with madness. And I shall strike all the peoples with blindness. (But I shall keep watch over Judah.)

5 Then the rulers of Judah will say to themselves, "The strength of the inhabitants of Jerusalem lies in Yahweh their God."

 :amen:  As Netanyahu stated in his speech before Congress, Israel will stand.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2017, 07:04:56 pm »
It will be nice when we have a smooth, functional, healthy Administration, cruising along and getting things accomplished effectively, and you can point out I was wrong.  I look forward to that day! 

You want this accomplished @Suppressed ?  Why not do something useful and contact your Congressional representatives?

We'd all thank you for that.

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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2017, 08:17:17 pm »
You want this accomplished @Suppressed ?  Why not do something useful and contact your Congressional representatives?

We'd all thank you for that.

How could my congressman help make the Administration heathy, except perhaps by voting for impeachment?
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2017, 08:25:38 pm »
How could my congressman help make the Administration heathy, except perhaps by voting for impeachment?

On what grounds?  Perhaps you're being snarky, but words like impeachment, Nazi, and treason are thrown around so much and so haphazardly, they've ceased to have their true purpose and meaning.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2017, 09:08:30 pm »
How could my congressman help make the Administration heathy, except perhaps by voting for impeachment?

Well...if this is your mission @Suppressed gather up the NTs and the rest of the resistance movement and march on Washington demanding impeachment.

Just do it.  Do it now.

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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2017, 09:23:14 pm »
On what grounds?  Perhaps you're being snarky, but words like impeachment, Nazi, and treason are thrown around so much and so haphazardly, they've ceased to have their true purpose and meaning.

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Beats me!

I wasn't the one who suggested calling my congressman to somehow clean up the Administration.  The only Constitutional way I can think of doing that would be via the impeachment process.  I can only suppose that's what @Right_in_Virginia was advocating I call for.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2017, 09:24:41 pm »
Well...if this is your mission @Suppressed gather up the NTs and the rest of the resistance movement and march on Washington demanding impeachment.

Just do it.  Do it now.

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YOU are the one who suggested I call my Congressman, to somehow make the Administration healthy.  Making the Administration healthy is the president's job.  So why I would call my congressman has only one constitutional answer I can think of -- to call for impeachment.  Why you'd suggest that, I don't know.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2017, 12:35:26 am »
    You're always throwin Red Meat at these Trumpers @Suppressed   You are to be commended for it, in spite of their consternations, not shamed.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2017, 05:35:35 am »
How could my congressman help make the Administration heathy, except perhaps by voting for impeachment?

If The Donald would be removed from office, we'd have President Pence,
whom I rather like.  We could do (and have done!) a lot worse!

But I have less confidence in Pence than I do The Donald.
(Great ticket!  "Dollars and Pence!")
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he backed down.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2017, 05:37:35 am »
Just between you and me @DCPatriot , I do wish the President would turn all international affairs back to his Secretary of State.

Too many cooks really do spoil the broth.

I'd be okay with that if our Secretary of State was Pat Buchanan.
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mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
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Re: Official: McMaster calls Israel ‘illegitimate,' 'occupying power’
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2017, 05:56:31 am »
@Right_in_Virginia
YOU are the one who suggested I call my Congressman, to somehow make the Administration healthy.  Making the Administration healthy is the president's job.  So why I would call my congressman has only one constitutional answer I can think of -- to call for impeachment.  Why you'd suggest that, I don't know.

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