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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #100 on: July 17, 2017, 10:55:53 pm »
Hope McCain gets well soon..
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #101 on: July 17, 2017, 11:15:26 pm »

Real classy...

Shove it up your blood clot.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2017, 11:18:53 pm »
Hope McCain gets well soon..

There is something wrong with you.  I can't put my finger on it...But you went sour about a year ago.

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2017, 11:19:38 pm »
I have a Medicare Advantage plan with BC/BS, and have never had any delays in testing, specialist referrals, even knee replacement surgery. (And I'm in Alabama.) Do you think that makes a difference?

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2017, 11:24:53 pm »
There is something wrong with you.  I can't put my finger on it...But you went sour about a year ago.

The guy went on my shit list when he started calling people who don't like McCain "Keyboard Komandos."  It's possible people who don't like McCain are patriots.  My finger is right on it.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2017, 11:35:37 pm »
Regadles of the results, he needs to step down.
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At what age do you want us to step down and shut up?  Would that be 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120?  When?

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2017, 11:37:58 pm »
@goodwithagun

At what age do you want us to step down and shut up?  Would that be 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120?  When?

I think when somebody is senile is a good start.  You are the expert, tell me McCain is sound in the brainbox.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2017, 11:48:13 pm »
@goodwithagun

At what age do you want us to step down and shut up?  Would that be 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120?  When?

How old are you again?   We can start there and lower the bar.

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2017, 11:52:21 pm »
I think when somebody is senile is a good start.  You are the expert, tell me McCain is sound in the brainbox.
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Senility didn't cause this problem; the blood clot was in the brain and according to Graham, McCain had recently started having trouble speaking and not being able to remember.  This is likely to be labeled a stroke.

It sounded to me that the other poster wanted him out just because he was old.  What age is old?
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #109 on: July 18, 2017, 12:00:58 am »
@Cyber Liberty

Senility didn't cause this problem; the blood clot was in the brain and according to Graham, McCain had recently started having trouble speaking and not being able to remember.  This is likely to be labeled a stroke.

It sounded to me that the other poster wanted him out just because he was old.  What age is old?

It's not age.  He's not been acting soundly.  He hasn't for years.  He's our very own Ted Kennedy.  Look at that and tell me John McCain is a wonder.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2017, 12:01:41 am »
How old are you again?   We can start there and lower the bar.
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I wondered which of you would say that.

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« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2017, 12:02:40 am »
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I wondered which of you would say that.

Me or my evil twin?

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #112 on: July 18, 2017, 12:03:09 am »
@Cyber Liberty

Senility didn't cause this problem; the blood clot was in the brain and according to Graham, McCain had recently started having trouble speaking and not being able to remember.  This is likely to be labeled a stroke.

It sounded to me that the other poster wanted him out just because he was old.  What age is old?
He has had trouble remembering he is supposed to be a conservative and a republican off and on for a while.
I am not down on him for his age--my parents are in their 80s and doing well, my grandmother didn't start to lose it until her mid 90s, the other until nearly 100 (she lived to 101). I fully respect, perhaps more than I should according to some sources, his military service and time in the Hilton in Hanoi.
That said, I, like many posters here, find his tendency to side with the Democrats on some issues to be a disturbing trait that might be explained by cerebrovascular events rather than plain old crypto-liberalism. If brain damage, even transient cognitive malfunctions are related to organic processes and not simply faulty character and logic, then he either needs to address the health issues more fully, or, if they cannot be addressed adequately, should consider resignation. You wouldn't want someone who isn't fully in command of their faculties driving a truck, driving a country affects far more people.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #113 on: July 18, 2017, 12:12:27 am »
@goodwithagun

At what age do you want us to step down and shut up?  Would that be 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120?  When?

It has nothing to do with his age. Next month we will celebrate my great aunt's 90th birthday. I'd vote for her over almost any of the current professional pols.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #114 on: July 18, 2017, 12:13:11 am »
What repeal?

The press is playing the same game Trump is: calling this abortion a "repeal" so they can later say, "You got your repeal? What more do want?"
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #115 on: July 18, 2017, 12:15:45 am »
@goodwithagun

At what age do you want us to step down and shut up?  Would that be 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120?  When?

I certainly am not holding his age against him, but it would sure seem that most people at his age who suffered a serious health condition requiring surgery would re-evaluate going back to work, especially when they are financially secure.  His estimated net worth is $21,000,000.00.  Sure he may love his job, but at 80 years old, he just may want to consider doing something else in life.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #116 on: July 18, 2017, 12:16:35 am »
He has had trouble remembering he is supposed to be a conservative and a republican off and on for a while.
I am not down on him for his age--my parents are in their 80s and doing well, my grandmother didn't start to lose it until her mid 90s, the other until nearly 100 (she lived to 101). I fully respect, perhaps more than I should according to some sources, his military service and time in the Hilton in Hanoi.
That said, I, like many posters here, find his tendency to side with the Democrats on some issues to be a disturbing trait that might be explained by cerebrovascular events rather than plain old crypto-liberalism. If brain damage, even transient cognitive malfunctions are related to organic processes and not simply faulty character and logic, then he either needs to address the health issues more fully, or, if they cannot be addressed adequately, should consider resignation. You wouldn't want someone who isn't fully in command of their faculties driving a truck, driving a country affects far more people.

I don't think his tendency to suck up to the communist Dems is because of his brain.  I think it's because he's been deceiving people about his true feelings.   He's a Democrat, lying about his true beliefs since he was a Rep in Congress, on the GOP fast track.  He was my Rep since the very beginning, so I've been watching far longer than most people.  AZ, 1st District.

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #117 on: July 18, 2017, 12:17:09 am »
I am not down on him for his age--my parents are in their 80s and doing well, my grandmother didn't start to lose it until her mid 90s, the other until nearly 100 (she lived to 101). I fully respect, perhaps more than I should according to some sources, his military service and time in the Hilton in Hanoi.
If brain damage, even transient cognitive malfunctions are related to organic processes and not simply faulty character and logic, then he either needs to address the health issues more fully, or, if they cannot be addressed adequately, should consider resignation.

I doubt he can come back.  He will get there for that vote, even on a stretcher, and I think that will be it.  He is not allowed to fly, but he said he would go by auto to get to Washington for that vote.

I think it is poetic justice that McCain is in the driver's seat about this vote.  After Trump blasted McCain for being a prisoner, now McCain holds the vote Trump needs.  You can complain about McCain, but Trump has no redeeming value.

AND I'M 83 - GET USED TO IT - I'LL BE GUESS WHAT, 84 IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #118 on: July 18, 2017, 12:23:09 am »
McCain is a snake in the grass, he was during Bush's entire Presidency.  He never got over losing to Bush.  It was McCain's turn. dammit.

He will come back, as long as he has a breath in his lungs.
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« Reply #119 on: July 18, 2017, 12:29:11 am »
McCain is a snake in the grass, he was during Bush's entire Presidency.  He never got over losing to Bush.  It was McCain's turn. dammit.

He will come back, as long as he has a breath in his lungs.

He'll probably be a vegetable.    No one will notice.

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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2017, 12:37:30 am »
Medicare Advantage plans aren't affected by Obamacare.

IIRC most of the $500B taken from Medicare to pay for obamacare was reduced reimbursement to Advantage providers, forcing them to reduce coverage and raise premiums, deductibles and copays...
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #121 on: July 18, 2017, 12:37:58 am »
He'll probably be a vegetable.    No one will notice.

Did they notice when it was that Senator from North Dakota?  No.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #122 on: July 18, 2017, 12:55:56 am »
I doubt he can come back.  He will get there for that vote, even on a stretcher, and I think that will be it.  He is not allowed to fly, but he said he would go by auto to get to Washington for that vote.

I think it is poetic justice that McCain is in the driver's seat about this vote.  After Trump blasted McCain for being a prisoner, now McCain holds the vote Trump needs.  You can complain about McCain, but Trump has no redeeming value.

AND I'M 83 - GET USED TO IT - I'LL BE GUESS WHAT, 84 IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
I'd enjoy talking with you if you were 103, m'am. Age is not the problem in McCain's case, nor do I view it as one.  It's his politics that bother me.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2017, 12:58:50 am »
Did they notice when it was that Senator from North Dakota?  No.
You speak of Quentin Burdick, who was (as related by a friend) unable to carry on a coherent conversation on the airplane from D.C. The next election, his staffers ran file footage, propped him for a couple of photo ops, and did the voice-overs to get the ads to get him reelected one more time (because they really liked their jobs)--and succeeded, only for him to die while in office.
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Re: McCain’s surgery puts Obamacare repeal vote in doubt
« Reply #124 on: July 18, 2017, 01:04:29 am »
You speak of Quentin Burdick, who was (as related by a friend) unable to carry on a coherent conversation on the airplane from D.C. The next election, his staffers ran file footage, propped him for a couple of photo ops, and did the voice-overs to get the ads to get him reelected one more time (because they really liked their jobs)--and succeeded, only for him to die while in office.

He was a Democrat, so it's OK.  Nobody could tell the difference.
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