Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program

[Chosen Daughter]

"Providing a national guaranteed paid-leave program — with a reasonable time limit and benefit cap — isn’t an entitlement, it’s an investment in America’s working families,” Trump wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

This is the same language the left uses


She laid out the benefits from such a program, saying it will lead to "Healthier children and parents in more tightly bonded families, greater financial stability and stronger attachment to the labor force are among the most important.”

Complete nonsense. No evidence it would do such a thing. What it does is put further burdens on small business and the deficit

Hitler gave money for having children too.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-role-of-women-in-nazi-germany/

[IsailedawayfromFR]

When I was EMS, we ran a call where a toddler had ended up with her arm in boiling water. Not sure if her mother did that or not, but the burns were nasty. Likely she still has scars from them. (Good, heavens, that was 40 years ago). It seems people have become so much more vicious since then, especially toward those they should love.

That is awful.  Poor kid.  I hope that one got the full extent of the law thrown at whoever did that.

As an aside, the bio of @Smokin Joe keeps impressively growing, adding an EMS gig to the list......

[Cripplecreek]

Hitler gave money for having children too.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-role-of-women-in-nazi-germany/

The female version of the Hitler youth were categorized for different versions and the perfect specimins were set aside as "fuhrer maidens" for breeding. They went off to camp and were pregnant at 14 and 15 years old.

[truth_seeker]

That is final, solid proof that Trump is Hitlerian. Good thing #nevertrump pointed this out.

[corbe]

   You should have preceded that post @truth_seeker with I probably shouldn't post this BUT

   Please get over your #nevertrump syndrome it is bothering you much more than the people you characterize as such and is not condusive to rational dialogue here on TBR, IMHO.

[Wingnut]

That is final, solid proof that Trump is Hitlerian. Good thing #nevertrump pointed this out.

Ah shit T_S.   You just had to step over that line ...again. 

[ABX]

That is final, solid proof that Trump is Hitlerian. Good thing #nevertrump pointed this out.

[corbe]

[Wingnut]

Corbett responded to that.

[truth_seeker]

   You should have preceded that post @truth_seeker with I probably shouldn't post this BUT

   Please get over your #nevertrump syndrome it is bothering you much more than the people you characterize as such and is not condusive to rational dialogue here on TBR, IMHO.

You need to look BEFORE my post for the initial Hitler references. Go scold them.

[corbe]

You need to look BEFORE my post for the initial Hitler references. Go scold them.

    Sorry if it appeared I was scolding you @truth_seeker that's the mods job.
    If say 'I' or @Cripplecreek or @Weird Tolkienish Figure posted that image we'd get a well deserved timeout, consider yourself lucky, if you're still active.....JS

   Edited to add:  Upon deeper reflection it occurred to me that this 'sorry' is my Third in less than an hour, did I mention I had a bad day with my 'X', I'm GOING TO BED-ALONE.

[LilLamb]

Different times. I grew up in late 60' and 70's when my mom was the only woman on the street to work full time. Maybe 2-3 others worked p/t. On the street I live on now there is only 2 under age 65 women who do not work out of 16 homes.

It's tough to raise  a family today on one income unless you are a gov't /union worker with great benefits.
Just for the two of use out health insurance is $1400 month with a 4000 deductible. The company we own pays for it but in effect it is coming out of our pockets.

One of my wifes employees has been off for 6 months because her mom had  a stroke and she is the only child. Great employee and she will have her job back when she is able to get back to work but not all employers are like my wife.

@txradioguy

The problem is that we think we need so much more than we used to need to be happy.  I stayed home when my kids were little.  I had no smart phone or cable tv or internet.   We had one used car.  I cooked everything at home from scratch.  We didn't take vacations. Our parties with our family or friends were all potluck dinners.  We didn't think we were entitled to anything more than we could afford and -gasp- we lived without credit cards.  All our clothes and furniture were second hand. 

The times have not changed, people have, and they think they and their children are too good to live like that anymore.

[Chosen Daughter]

The problem is that we think we need so much more than we used to need to be happy.  I stayed home when my kids were little.  I had no smart phone or cable tv or internet.   We had one used car.  I cooked everything at home from scratch.  We didn't take vacations. Our parties with our family or friends were all potluck dinners.  We didn't think we were entitled to anything more than we could afford and -gasp- we lived without credit cards.  All our clothes and furniture were second hand. 

The times have not changed, people have, and they think they and their children are too good to live like that anymore.

Exactly how we lived.  I stayed home when the kids were little.  It would not have paid to have child care.  That would have eaten up almost my entire paycheck being I had two small ones.  We shopped at the Goodwill and other second hand stores.  Consignment stuff for the kids.  Cooked at home, etc.  Just like you.  Raised our own kids and then when they were old enough to stay at home after school by themselves I went back to work.

[Wingnut]

    Sorry if it appeared I was scolding you @truth_seeker that's the mods job.
    If say 'I' or @Cripplecreek or @Weird Tolkienish Figure posted that image we'd get a well deserved timeout, consider yourself lucky, if you're still active.....JS

   Edited to add:  Upon deeper reflection it occurred to me that this 'sorry' is my Third in less than an hour, did I mention I had a bad day with my 'X', I'm GOING TO BED-ALONE.

You are asleep now but i was wondering .how crazy...  is your ex...  I'm asking for Frank...not for  me of course..

[Smokin Joe]

That is awful.  Poor kid.  I hope that one got the full extent of the law thrown at whoever did that.

As an aside, the bio of @Smokin Joe keeps impressively growing, adding an EMS gig to the list......

Fire 1970 to 1974, EMS (the department had both) 1973-1974. This is nothing new, and has been referenced in other posts. I got the nick in the Fire Department.

[goodwithagun]

The problem is that we think we need so much more than we used to need to be happy.  I stayed home when my kids were little.  I had no smart phone or cable tv or internet.   We had one used car.  I cooked everything at home from scratch.  We didn't take vacations. Our parties with our family or friends were all potluck dinners.  We didn't think we were entitled to anything more than we could afford and -gasp- we lived without credit cards.  All our clothes and furniture were second hand. 

The times have not changed, people have, and they think they and their children are too good to live like that anymore.

For me it's not needing more now, it's needing more in the future. If I didn't but work what will happen when I'm old and unable to care for myself? My husband does well and we could afford for me to stay home, but what big gov has done to society makes that impossible. The taxes alone are horrendous, then there's healthcare. Big gov has created a scenario where the average household almost has to have two workers.

[corbe]

You are asleep now but i was wondering .how crazy...  is your ex...  I'm asking for Frank...not for  me of course..

   @Wingnut     Definitely occupies the 'Danger Zone'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuI6GTY9eVc

[roamer_1]

Is she there representing 'family' or the US? Because her vision of the latter, as a Democrat, may differ significantly from the vision of America folks thought they were buying into.

She is there representing the president, no doubt... And as the president is her father, I would assume she represents her family as well... A whole lot of American folks have had the wool pulled over their eyes - which I doubt surprises you much at all...

In my mind, she is predictably liberal simply because the apple don't fall far from the horse.

I have no doubt you and I could do business on a handshake. I wouldn't with Mr. Trump.

It's a fair bet you could do business with my boys too, in the same fashion... But in that case, because the apple don't fall far from the tree. See how that's different, but still the same?

LOL!

Yeah, I'd have naught to do with Trump or his kin. I've known that from the first ten minutes of exposure.

[roamer_1]

The problem is that we think we need so much more than we used to need to be happy.  I stayed home when my kids were little.  I had no smart phone or cable tv or internet.   We had one used car.  I cooked everything at home from scratch.  We didn't take vacations. Our parties with our family or friends were all potluck dinners.  We didn't think we were entitled to anything more than we could afford and -gasp- we lived without credit cards.  All our clothes and furniture were second hand. 

Brava!
Since my illness, I have gone back to that. I have learned the thing the moth eats, and the caterpillar ravages, and the locust consumes.

All those years making all that money, poof! gone in an instant. An utter waste of time... It is an amazement how foolish I was. I now live on what I spent on business lunches and coffee before. I make my own food, from garden fresh veggies, premium grass fed beef, home canned stores, and wild fish and game...

It's been 7 years since I had a hot pocket or pizza rolls, but were I to try them today, they would taste like crap to me. No sodas, very few proceeds foods, and I can live on what I have right now for years... And I eat really, really good. It is amazing how cheap it is to live magnificently once you step off of the treadmill.

The times have not changed, people have, and they think they and their children are too good to live like that anymore.

BRAVA sommore! w00t w00t! Hear Hear!
It's the very same dang thing it's always been.

[LMAO]

That is final, solid proof that Trump is Hitlerian. Good thing #nevertrump pointed this out.

@truth_seeker

 I think I see what you're saying here and if you are saying what I think you are I agree bringing up Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany  intentions with this to what Ivanka is trying to do is a bit much

This is nothing more than a typical liberal wanting to do good works with other people's money

[truth_seeker]

@truth_seeker

 
This is nothing more than a typical liberal wanting to do good works with other people's money

Not according to #75 and #77 above.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Not according to #75 and #77 above.

Where in the world did you extract that argument from what I or @Smokin Joe posted?

@truth_seeker

[Smokin Joe]

Where in the world did you extract that argument from what I or @Smokin Joe posted?

@truth_seeker

[truth_seeker]

Where in the world did you extract that argument from what I or @Smokin Joe posted?

@truth_seeker

I simply played off #75 and #77, who brought up Hitler. As far as "extracting argument," they should speak for themselves.

[Smokin Joe]

I simply played off #75 and #77, who brought up Hitler. As far as "extracting argument," they should speak for themselves.

I never mentioned the little corporal, so I'm not sure where that was extracted from. It wasn't mine.