Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program

[Smokin Joe]

Just be glad you were never a stepfather. TOS has declared that all of them are baby murdering abusive rapists.

I have been. You just love those kids like they are your own, and don't draw any distinctions. I have only used 'step-' to sort out the confusion for people who know some of the family tree, but normally claim them all as mine.

[Silver Pines]

Just be glad you were never a stepfather. TOS has declared that all of them are baby murdering abusive rapists.

@Cripplecreek

What??

The only father-in-law I've ever known is my husband's stepfather.  The bio dad wants nothing to do with his family.

[Cripplecreek]

@Cripplecreek

What??

The only father-in-law I've ever known is my husband's stepfather.  The bio dad wants nothing to do with his family.

I'm personally involved in a round about way in a situation where a birth mother beat her infant daughter so badly the baby had brain matter coming out of her ears. After being withdrawn from life support the baby naturally died.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm personally involved in a round about way in a situation where a birth mother beat her infant daughter so badly the baby had brain matter coming out of her ears. After being withdrawn from life support the baby naturally died.

Whoa...I can't imagine. Were drugs involved?

[Cripplecreek]

Whoa...I can't imagine. Were drugs involved?

Probably and combined with a slow to react child protective services.

[Smokin Joe]

Probably and combined with a slow to react child protective services.

When I was EMS, we ran a call where a toddler had ended up with her arm in boiling water. Not sure if her mother did that or not, but the burns were nasty. Likely she still has scars from them. (Good, heavens, that was 40 years ago). It seems people have become so much more vicious since then, especially toward those they should love.

[Silver Pines]

I'm personally involved in a round about way in a situation where a birth mother beat her infant daughter so badly the baby had brain matter coming out of her ears. After being withdrawn from life support the baby naturally died.

@Cripplecreek

Oh my God.  This is when I think public execution had its good points.

[Cripplecreek]

@Cripplecreek

Oh my God.  This is when I think public execution had its good points.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of the death penalty but I wouldn't be opposed to putting a foot on her throat and a gun barrel to her forehead to solve her problem.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

It seems to me that any employer could set up a deduction account that employees could voluntarily contribute to, then draw upon when they use the leave they're already entitled to? What could be fairer than that?

I've had an account like that since I was a little kid.  Didn't come from my employer though, I signed up for it at the bank.

[Oceander]

I have been. You just love those kids like they are your own, and don't draw any distinctions. I have only used 'step-' to sort out the confusion for people who know some of the family tree, but normally claim them all as mine.

Sounds like all of them are yours in the only way that matters.  Good on ya.

[LMAO]

"Providing a national guaranteed paid-leave program — with a reasonable time limit and benefit cap — isn’t an entitlement, it’s an investment in America’s working families,” Trump wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

This is the same language the left uses


She laid out the benefits from such a program, saying it will lead to "Healthier children and parents in more tightly bonded families, greater financial stability and stronger attachment to the labor force are among the most important.”

Complete nonsense. No evidence it would do such a thing. What it does is put further burdens on small business and the deficit

[Smokin Joe]

"Providing a national guaranteed paid-leave program — with a reasonable time limit and benefit cap — isn’t an entitlement, it’s an investment in America’s working families,” Trump wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

This is the same language the left uses


She laid out the benefits from such a program, saying it will lead to "Healthier children and parents in more tightly bonded families, greater financial stability and stronger attachment to the labor force are among the most important.”

Complete nonsense. No evidence it would do such a thing. What it does is put further burdens on small business and the deficit

Yep.  Add the burden of having to be able to provide 6 weeks paid leave to every employee (Because it is for daddies, too) to the Obamacare burden, and there is no point in being in business or expanding one.
In the meantime, those businesses which did provide such a thing would have to pass the costs on to the consumers, making it a double whammy. In the long run, no one gets the clean end of that turd.

[INVAR]

Ivanka Trump makes the case for Statist Socialism on a grand scale, suggesting an entitlement that rivals the overreach of ObamaCare, when no one voted for her to make such recommendations to policy.

Yet her old man, who was the one voted for President - has her sit in for him at G-20, when she was neither confirmed or voted into any position - but appointed by the king to represent him... and by extension, all of you.

Welcome to your monarchy:

The 35-year-old former fashion model sat around the table with Xi Jinping, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Angela Merkel and Theresa May, diplomats and the White House confirmed.

President Trump himself is using the summit of the world's top economies to showcase his daughter, who has now played a visible role in each of the seven countries Trump has visited as president. Ivanka Trump could be seen coming and going from several of her father's one-on-one meetings with world leaders Saturday.

"I'm very proud of my daughter Ivanka, always have been from day one. I have to tell you that," Trump said at an event for the women's entrepreneurship fund. "If she weren't my daughter it would be so much easier for her. It might be the only bad thing going for her, if you want to know the truth."

Trump lent his support to that effort Saturday by pledging $50 million from the United States to jump-start the effort.

"By investing in women around the world, we're investing in families, we're investing in prosperity and we're investing in peace," Trump said at the G-20 summit in Hamburg, where global leaders embraced the World Bank-led program.

This 'side' of the aisle was rightfully pissed-off when Michelle Obama instituted the North Korea School Lunch Program - no one voted for her to make policy decisions that affect Americans.  Neither did people vote for  the DAUGHTER of the president to set entitlement programs and initiatives that will be paid for by you and me.

But, this is the kind of thing that happens when you try staving off a NY lifelong Liberal Democrat with another lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat.

You get a lot more Socialism.

[Smokin Joe]

Yeah, that's an awsh*t.

[Suppressed]

This 'side' of the aisle was rightfully pissed-off when Michelle Obama instituted the North Korea School Lunch Program - no one voted for her to make policy decisions that affect Americans.  Neither did people vote for  the DAUGHTER of the president to set entitlement programs and initiatives that will be paid for by you and me.

I agree with you, except I must point out that the school lunch thing was passed by Congress and signed by Obama, wit USDA regs. Moochelle just jumped on the bandwagon to promote it.

[Applewood]

Trump lent his support to that effort Saturday by pledging $50 million from the United States to jump-start the effort.


Isn't it great that we have a president who is so eager to throw around our hard-earned tax dollars?  Didn't we just get rid of another president who did the same? 

By the way, does congress have to approve this expenditure? 

[roamer_1]

I have a problem with the content / philosophy of this family, but I have no problem with his children representing him.

My sons carry the full faith and credit of my name and my word... They represent me all the time. Indeed, if I have business with a man, and cannot find him, I will certainly take his word from his son, daughter, or wife, even as if it sprung from his own mouth.

[Night Hides Not]

I have a problem with the content / philosophy of this family, but I have no problem with his children representing him.

My sons carry the full faith and credit of my name and my word... They represent me all the time. Indeed, if I have business with a man, and cannot find him, I will certainly take his word from his son, daughter, or wife, even as if it sprung from his own mouth.

All fine and good, in a private business. Trump is stepping all over anti-nepotism laws installed after Bobby Kennedy

[Cripplecreek]

Al fine and good, in a private business. Trump is stepping all over anti-nepotism laws installed after Bobby Kennedy

Not to mention making "conservatives" who claimed to oppose such behavior look like hypocritical fools.

[Smokin Joe]

I have a problem with the content / philosophy of this family, but I have no problem with his children representing him.

My sons carry the full faith and credit of my name and my word... They represent me all the time. Indeed, if I have business with a man, and cannot find him, I will certainly take his word from his son, daughter, or wife, even as if it sprung from his own mouth.

Is she there representing 'family' or the US? Because her vision of the latter, as a Democrat, may differ significantly from the vision of America folks thought they were buying into.

I have no doubt you and I could do business on a handshake. I wouldn't with Mr. Trump.

[Rivergirl]

When all the folks working to create her clothing line and shoe line get paid family leave I will care about her pronouncements.

[goodwithagun]

My kids are 8, 5, and 3. I dragged myself into work on days that I didn't feel well so that I wouldn't waste sick days when I could use them for maternity leave and still get paid. I think sick days as maternity leave is FMLA. If I could do it, why can't others? My husband did the same thing. When I went back to work he took off a few weeks so that I could adjust to full time work, full time mommy, and full time milk manufacturer. Let me repeat, this is already law. If one wastes sick time, one does not get paid family leave. I will also add that I used a lot of sick days two years ago due to a cancer diagnosis. Guess what? I still have sick days!

[Rivergirl]

Imagine doing business with a man who decides you have been paid enough and if you're not happy..........sue me.
This was the plight of the workers on just about all of his construction sites.  And it's true for the D.C. Postal building site as well.  Ivanka is in charge and she had done the same thing. Told the construction workers...........sue me.

[Wingnut]

When all the folks working to create her clothing line and shoe line get paid family leave I will care about her pronouncements.

That's what I like about you Rivergirl, you don't give a shit about nuthin.

[Smokin Joe]

When all the folks working to create her clothing line and shoe line get paid family leave I will care about her pronouncements.

Exactly. No one elected her to any office. Meh.