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Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program

By Olivia Beavers
July 5, 2017


First daughter Ivanka Trump penned an op-ed Tuesday, making her case why paid family leave is an important policy that benefits American women as well as the economy.

"Providing a national guaranteed paid-leave program — with a reasonable time limit and benefit cap — isn’t an entitlement, it’s an investment in America’s working families,” Trump wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

She laid out the benefits from such a program, saying it will lead to "Healthier children and parents in more tightly bonded families, greater financial stability and stronger attachment to the labor force are among the most important.”
But she argued that such programs are not reaching "the poorest, most vulnerable workers in our society ..."

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/340658-ivanka-trump-makes-her-case-for-a-national-paid-family-leave-program

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Re: Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 04:15:51 pm »
Ivanka to Fox News on June 26: "I try to stay out of politics."

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 04:19:36 pm »
I don't much care for Ivanka, a New York liberal, who is NOT staying out of politics.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 04:25:04 pm »
Spoiled rich bitch who is jet setting around the world with her sleazy slumlord husband under the US banner. When in the hell is congress going to step in and throw these losers out of the WH?

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 04:30:13 pm »
Many of the larger companies already have some sort of FL and many pay for so many weeks.  Smaller companies rarely do and most cannot afford to do so.

Sorta torn on the whole issue. Mommas need to be with their kids the first several months..actually much longer like to age 16 but I will be labeled as quite mysoginistic for saying that...but at the same time many families forced to have 2 breadwinners.

Tough call and complex issue.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 04:36:46 pm »
Many of the larger companies already have some sort of FL and many pay for so many weeks.  Smaller companies rarely do and most cannot afford to do so.

Sorta torn on the whole issue. Mommas need to be with their kids the first several months..actually much longer like to age 16 but I will be labeled as quite mysoginistic for saying that...but at the same time many families forced to have 2 breadwinners.

Tough call and complex issue.

And not on the list of priorities for the first budget.

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 05:03:22 pm »
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Another give away federal program.  Once passed, it will stay forever and the money will be increased - money we do not have.  I read that article, and it sounds like six weeks free money for the father AND for the mother.  That is twelve weeks the federal government gives them money.  Have more kids and get more money.

I grew up in a time when the family got nothing from government or their employer except for what money they earned by working.  Social Security began in 1935 so my father was in the generation that first got that.  They got nothing from the Sun Oil Company where he worked except for his pay check.  They bought their own medical insurance and life insurance.  Families were responsible for their own lives.  The family made it on their own.  Families in need were helped by churches.

Socialism will kill this country when there is not enough government money to give to those who are in government give away programs.  We are actually at that point since our debt keeps rising and this program will add to the debt since we already don't have the money.  The Trump family dynasty rushes us to collapse.

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 05:07:45 pm »
The Trump family dynasty rushes us to collapse.

And all in the name of 'conservatism'.

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 05:17:18 pm »
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Another give away federal program.  Once passed, it will stay forever and the money will be increased - money we do not have.  I read that article, and it sounds like six weeks free money for the father AND for the mother.  That is twelve weeks the federal government gives them money.  Have more kids and get more money.

I grew up in a time when the family got nothing from government or their employer except for what money they earned by working.  Social Security began in 1935 so my father was in the generation that first got that.  They got nothing from the Sun Oil Company where he worked except for his pay check.  They bought their own medical insurance and life insurance.  Families were responsible for their own lives.  The family made it on their own.  Families in need were helped by churches.

Socialism will kill this country when there is not enough government money to give to those who are in government give away programs.  We are actually at that point since our debt keeps rising and this program will add to the debt since we already don't have the money.  The Trump family dynasty rushes us to collapse.

@Victoria33 this should be anywhere near serious consideration at any time during the Trump presidency.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 05:24:36 pm »
Great.  Another program for me to pay for and for the gibs me dats to drain from my pocket.  Trump is no conservative and his family may well be to the left of Hilary   The democrats have won by losing....
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 05:26:11 pm »
By the way I don't recall voting for Ivanka.   Which ballot was she on?
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Re: Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 05:26:20 pm »
Many of the larger companies already have some sort of FL and many pay for so many weeks.  Smaller companies rarely do and most cannot afford to do so.

Sorta torn on the whole issue. Mommas need to be with their kids the first several months..actually much longer like to age 16 but I will be labeled as quite mysoginistic for saying that...but at the same time many families forced to have 2 breadwinners.

Tough call and complex issue.

So find some mamma who is in this situation and write a check. The government shouldn't be involved in this at all.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 05:27:01 pm »
Any actual defenders here on this?

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Re: Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 05:27:37 pm »
Spoiled rich bitch who is jet setting around the world with her sleazy slumlord husband under the US banner. When in the hell is congress going to step in and throw these losers out of the WH?

Perhaps President Trump is realizing he need's to keep Kushner close to keep an eye on him; you know the old adage; keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 06:05:05 pm »
Perhaps President Trump is realizing he need's to keep Kushner close to keep an eye on him; you know the old adage; keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Why do you think they are his enemy?  The 'role' or character he is playing to the public is one thing, but this is family. He has at least shown with Ivanka, he will put his family above country or often his own ego. At that, his 'wrasslin' character he is playing is probably pretty low on where his loyalty lays.

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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2017, 06:19:36 pm »
So find some mamma who is in this situation and write a check. The government shouldn't be involved in this at all.

People make decisions about this stuff all the time.

A girl I work with works evenings with us so she can be home with her toddler during the day and her husband is home with the child in the evening.

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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 06:26:49 pm »
As a reminder, the annual budget deficits are expected to rise from $440 billion in the current fiscal year to $1.4 trillion in 2027.  That is before Trump's tax cuts, military spending increases, and public works boondoggles.

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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2017, 06:30:02 pm »
Why should this be a national priority?

Let any state which proposes such insanity do it.  And watch the results.

We do not need an unconstitutional dictate like this under any scenario.
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2017, 06:30:38 pm »
No, Ivanka, no.
BTW, Jarred and Ivanka partying with the Soros crowd on Long Island recently.
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Re: Ivanka Trump makes her case for national paid family leave program
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2017, 06:30:53 pm »
Any actual defenders here on this?

Hope not.

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2017, 06:36:32 pm »
No, Ivanka, no.
BTW, Jarred and Ivanka partying with the Soros crowd on Long Island recently.
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Not just them. Several other administration advisers including Kellyann were there.

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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2017, 06:37:41 pm »
Not just them. Several other administration advisers including Kellyann were there.
Yep, that is correct.

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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2017, 06:44:31 pm »
As a reminder, the annual budget deficits are expected to rise from $440 billion in the current fiscal year to $1.4 trillion in 2027.  That is before Trump's tax cuts, military spending increases, and public works boondoggles.

We're already 2 months into a 2 week road construction project on the primary road I travel to work every day. A flagman explained to me why they only work 3 days per week on the big job. They do 3 days on the big job and 2 on other jobs to keep the federal money flowing for as long as possible. They've also taken about 10 days of holiday time away from the job since May.

They didn't work yesterday and they won't be working today but Monday I'll be back to sitting in traffic as they let cars from the other direction come through before turning us loose.

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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2017, 06:50:13 pm »
My small company already has a family leave program.   Employees get time off from roughly 5pm to 8am of the next day five days a week.   They get all day Sat and Sunday off too!!!
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2017, 08:11:58 pm »
Many of the larger companies already have some sort of FL and many pay for so many weeks.  Smaller companies rarely do and most cannot afford to do so.

Sorta torn on the whole issue. Mommas need to be with their kids the first several months..actually much longer like to age 16 but I will be labeled as quite mysoginistic for saying that...but at the same time many families forced to have 2 breadwinners.

Tough call and complex issue.

It seems to me that any employer could set up a deduction account that employees could voluntarily contribute to, then draw upon when they use the leave they're already entitled to? What could be fairer than that?

As it is, relatively few employees want to take unpaid time off. If they get paid everyone will go for it and it will be an even bigger administrative nightmare than it is now...
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