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Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« on: May 29, 2017, 12:07:57 pm »
Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
By Ellen Mitchell - 05/29/17 07:30 AM EDT

President Trump’s long touted promises for more robust military spending fell short in his first government-wide budget, which disappointed Democrats and Republicans alike, according to defense analysts and consultants.

The fiscal 2018 budget, released Tuesday, calls for $603 billion in the base budget for defense and national security issues, about $54 billion above a ceiling set by the 2011 Budget Control Act, but only $18 billion more than was planned for this year by President Obama.

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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 02:40:15 pm »
This was the one area I really wanted to not be let down on. What was he going to do for those of us in uniform?

The FY 18 raise is the Congressionally mandated level. 

Meanwhile we still have a shortfall of combat ready planes...ships that desperately need to be in dry dock and the AF is bleeding pilots by the hour.

In all honesty it's about $100 billion less than what it needs to be to put the military on the footing it needs to be on.
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 03:10:55 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on May 29, 2017, 02:40:15 pm
This was the one area I really wanted to not be let down on. What was he going to do for those of us in uniform?

The FY 18 raise is the Congressionally mandated level. 

Meanwhile we still have a shortfall of combat ready planes...ships that desperately need to be in dry dock and the AF is bleeding pilots by the hour.

In all honesty it's about $100 billion less than what it needs to be to put the military on the footing it needs to be on.

Be thankful that it's not Hillary as the CIC.... else instead of uniforms, the US Military would probably be forced to dress in camouflage rompers.  An $18 billion increase is better than the major decrease you'd get with Hillary, IOW. 
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 03:47:40 pm »
What?  Trump put the lie to another one of his campaign promises?  Color me shocked.  Not.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 04:05:12 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 29, 2017, 03:10:55 pm
Be thankful that it's not Hillary as the CIC.... else instead of uniforms, the US Military would probably be forced to dress in camouflage rompers.  An $18 billion increase is better than the major decrease you'd get with Hillary, IOW.

Ok that excuse for Trump's lack of action went out the door the day he got inaugurated.

Yeah thank God we don't have Hillary...we'd be stuck figuring in Syria...the Taliban would be kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan and our military would be stretched to the limit because we're undersized.

Oh...wait...
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 04:08:58 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 03:47:40 pm
What?  Trump put the lie to another one of his campaign promises?  Color me shocked.  Not.

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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2017, 04:16:49 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on May 29, 2017, 04:05:12 pm
Ok that excuse for Trump's lack of action went out the door the day he got inaugurated.

Yeah thank God we don't have Hillary...we'd be stuck figuring in Syria...the Taliban would be kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan and our military would be stretched to the limit because we're undersized.

Oh...wait...

Oh come now.  Really???   Are you really going to attempt to posit that things would be the same (ie just as bad in your mind) as they are now under a President Hillary?  Nobody (not even YOU) believes that.

Get real.
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2017, 04:31:20 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 29, 2017, 04:16:49 pm
Oh come now.  Really???   Are you really going to attempt to posit that things would be the same (ie just as bad in your mind) as they are now under a President Hillary?  Nobody (not even YOU) believes that.

Get real.

I think TRG was being ironic....
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2017, 04:34:30 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 04:31:20 pm
I think TRG was being ironic....

Or.... something.   *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2017, 04:53:36 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on May 29, 2017, 04:05:12 pm
Ok that excuse for Trump's lack of action went out the door the day he got inaugurated.

Yeah thank God we don't have Hillary...we'd be stuck figuring in Syria...the Taliban would be kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan and our military would be stretched to the limit because we're undersized.

Oh...wait...

That is not an excuse ... it is a cry for reality.  The people who thought electing Trump would make everything suddenly perfect may be disappointed.

But the people who KNEW that Trump would not be perfect but would be infinitely better than Hillary are glad every day that Trump was elected.

He, at least, is making an effort and, while 18 billion may be peanuts to you, it is an increase. 

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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2017, 04:56:39 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 04:31:20 pm
I think TRG was being ironic....

He was not.  Some people here get furious if anyone brings up Hillary in the context of Trump being better than her.

They refuse to accept the reality that we had two choices in the election.
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2017, 05:01:19 pm »
We are not doing that on this thread, thank you. Stick to the topic.
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2017, 06:28:54 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 04:31:20 pm
I think TRG was being ironic....
Well at least he wasn't being obtuse like some others :whistle:
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Re: Trump’s defense spending boom that wasn’t
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2017, 02:15:56 am »
Quote from: Mod1 on May 29, 2017, 05:01:19 pm
We are not doing that on this thread, thank you. Stick to the topic.

Mod1 .... ridiculous accusation.  Get over to the abortion thread and put a stop to the hysterical meanness over there.
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2017, 02:42:10 am »
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...instead of uniforms, the US Military would probably be forced to dress in camouflage rompers.

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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2017, 02:48:38 am »
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