Early on I suggested, tongue firmly in cheek, that he felt his 'personal space' was violated and he felt threatened.
Then later in the morning I was listening to Chris Plante and he started saying that in Montana, everything is big and spacious. Even the sky. LOL!
...so "personal space" in NYC or London, isn't even on the same planet compared to same in Montana.
They talked about it for half an hour....and they were serious.