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Offline Jazzhead

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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2017, 04:35:44 pm »
Constitutional Conservatism is irrelevant?

Seriously...what is your screen name over at DU?

Of course constitutional conservatism isn't irrelevant - unless you choose it to be.   THE GOP CAN PASS CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION IF IT IS PREPARED TO COMPROMISE WITH CENTRIST REPUBLICANS.   If conservatives won't do that, their irrelevancy will be of their own making.   

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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2017, 05:06:54 pm »
Think, bonehead, think.   I don't support a carbon tax.   The GOP has the opportunity, by staying united,  of advancing conservatism by rendering liberalism irrelevant.   But the Freedom Caucus doesn't want unity.  It wants ideological purity even if it means, for example, that the ACA survives.   That's nuts -  and Trump doesn't have the patience to abide such insanity.   He'll partner with Dems,  and gain their support by giving them some of what they want.  Such as a carbon tax.

If it comes to that, blame yourselves, conservatives, for insisting on perfection at the cost of the good.

"Think, bonehead, think"  your words.

If Trump supports liberalism, should we support him?

I want to advance conservatism.  The Freedom Caucus is teaparty conservative.  If Trump isn't then he won't receive my support.  I will happily accept movement toward conservatism, but a carbon tax, which Trump appears to support, regardless of what you believe, I will oppose.  It. Is. Liberalism.

I look forward to Trump proving me wrong by opposing a carbon tax.  We'll see. ...
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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2017, 05:16:38 pm »
Of course constitutional conservatism isn't irrelevant - unless you choose it to be.   THE GOP CAN PASS CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION IF IT IS PREPARED TO COMPROMISE WITH CENTRIST REPUBLICANS.   If conservatives won't do that, their irrelevancy will be of their own making.

A little wisdom about those that think compromise is the way to go:

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We don’t compromise because it’s right; we compromise because it is easy and because it saves face. We compromise in order to say that at least we got half the pie. Distilled to its essence, we compromise to be safe. Most people in a negotiation are driven by fear or by the desire to avoid pain. Too few are driven by their actual goals.

So don’t settle and — here’s a simple rule — never split the difference. Creative solutions are almost always preceded by some degree of risk, annoyance, confusion, and conflict. Accommodation and compromise produce none of that. You’ve got to embrace the hard stuff. That’s where the great deals are. And that’s what great negotiators do.


http://www.businessinsider.com/why-compromise-is-a-bad-deal-in-life-and-in-business-2016-5

Compromise is the cowards way out...it's the easy left instead of the hard right.  Doesn't take much courage or spine to compromise.



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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2017, 06:16:29 pm »
Think, bonehead, think. 

My screen name at DU?   NotanIdiotlikeYou,  txradioguy.   

You are always the first snowflake to scream like a little girl when people disagree with you and you cite them as 'personal attacks'.  And just like every good Liberal Socialist out there - you engage in doing that which you constantly accuse others of doing.

Which of course is the Leftist way of thinking and doing things - even though you continue to insist you are a Conservative when you are not.

You are the fundamental anathema of Conservatism in every post you make to this board.
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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2017, 07:09:31 pm »
So you have no problem with Trump picking up on increasing the National Debt past what Bush and Obama did...and using Obama's strong armed tactics to get what he wants  Got it.  **nononono*


Do you play "the idiot" all the time, or just at TBR?

I was responding to somebody suggesting using the Infrastructure Bill $$$ as leverage to get them to accept the 'New and Improved', Healthcare replacement.
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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2017, 07:12:39 pm »
Where's the winning?  A handful of EO's and a truck load of missteps infighting and miscues.  No significant legislation and now he's back tracking on everything his minions told us were reasons to vote for him.  He's attacked Conservatives and is openly playing footsie with the Dems.

Not sure what your definition of a "win" is...but that doesn't look like a win to most normal people.

Ahhhh.....so "Idiot" it is!

Where's the 'winning'?    Last time I checked, Donald Trump is POTUS and not Hillary Clinton.

If you need to be a contrarian on that FACT....run along, sonny.
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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2017, 07:27:35 pm »
The pro-life cause being one of my most important issues, Trump has been near perfect in this area. While, the Democrats push abortion to the max, have former planned parenthood executives on their staff.  One could go on but I think that's enough. We don't know how Gorsuch will act but we have a good idea, Trump has signed legislation to enable states to defund Planned Parenthood. The Vice President is probably the biggest pro-lifer with accomplishments to match ever on a winning GOP ticket. Admittedly, that's a bit hard to judge.

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Re: President Trump changes stance on 4 campaign positions in just 1 day
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2017, 10:53:22 pm »
If you want winning all you have to do is tune into FNC