Video of heated Steve Bannon in Trump Oval Office meeting

[XenaLee]

For Pete's sake!  This is beyond ridiculous.  Never have I seen or heard such pettiness reported by the media.  President Trump has a temper, he made a spectacle of himself during his presidential campaign and the MSM and the left are going to use it to their advantage.  What CNN is reporting will be seen as probable due to Trump's past behavior.  Meanwhile ... we have the wall, illegal immigration, repeal of Bammycare and the economy to worry about. If President Trump is tied up continually defending his every move and his cabinet is tied up defending their every move, nothing will get done.   I'm not sure that he even has an entire cabinet that's been voted on and approved yet. 

That is exactly the left's game plan and agenda.  And unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of folks supposedly on the right that are only too willing to help the left implement that agenda.

[libertybele]

That is exactly the left's game plan and agenda.  And unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of folks supposedly on the right that are only too willing to help the left implement that agenda.

There is a coup within a coup going on ... just my opinion.

[ConservativeGranny]

"For Pete's sake!  This is beyond ridiculous.  Never have I seen or heard such pettiness reported by the media.  President Trump has a temper, he made a spectacle of himself during his presidential campaign and the MSM and the left are going to use it to their advantage.  What CNN is reporting will be seen as probable due to Trump's past behavior."

But it is not Trump who we see emoting and waving his arms around dramatically. It's Bannon. It's a weird story for the media to put forward because we expect this type of thing from Trump and Bannon. In fact I can't be surprised if Trump WAS irate about being blindsided about Session's recusal and his Russia problem. If indeed he was. You would think the Prez would be in the loop. Did Sessions make his decision to recuse himself without consulting anyone else? I would find that surprising.

The wire tapping accusation and this story about Trump's anger sure is "Trumping" the Russian story though. It's far more tantalizing isn't it? A great distraction.

I also find it beyond believable that with the few people in the office when these meetings are going on and knowing that leaks have been a problem the source hasn't been nailed down yet. How long does it take to check phones and work out a process of elimination? Makes me more and more suspicious that these leaks are intentional.

And truer words were never spoken. A lot of nonsense and nothing is getting done:(

[Chosen Daughter]

CNN cameras taking the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAwnXWOBeD8

[Norm Lenhart]

There is a coup within a coup going on ... just my opinion.

@INVAR

Probably that too. But really, it's simply what a few of us have said for a long time now. We are amidst a societal collapse.

We said that an equally divided nation cannot stand...
We said that the left had come so close to the brass ring they would burn the earth before surrendering power.

What are we seeing? Exactly that.

They cannot simply shoot us. If they could have, they would have before Berry was retired. Apparently they could not find enough support in the ranks for an open takeover. So this is whats left open to them. Guerrilla warfare.

Trump does not have the numbers in govt to put it down either with a govt still full of Obama/marxist/Muslims and if he did, that would trigger the rest of the hot war among the population.

Societal collapse no matter which way we go.

[XenaLee]

@INVAR

Probably that too. But really, it's simply what a few of us have said for a long time now. We are amidst a societal collapse.

We said that an equally divided nation cannot stand...
We said that the left had come so close to the brass ring they would burn the earth before surrendering power.

What are we seeing? Exactly that.

They cannot simply shoot us. If they could have, they would have before Berry was retired. Apparently they could not find enough support in the ranks for an open takeover. So this is whats left open to them. Guerrilla warfare.

Trump does not have the numbers in govt to put it down either with a govt still full of Obama/marxist/Muslims and if he did, that would trigger the rest of the hot war among the population.

Societal collapse no matter which way we go.

Societal collapse may be what some of the idiot left (the Ayers anarchist types) wants... but I don't think it's what they're going to get.  I think some of them are going to jail.

[Norm Lenhart]

Societal collapse may be what some of the idiot left (the Ayers anarchist types) wants... but I don't think it's what they're going to get.  I think some of them are going to jail.

The gallows if there is justice. But that will only come after the collapse concludes or is at least well underway.

Yes it will collapse. At this point I do not see how this already rolling snowball suddenly travels back uphill. Not when the left wants it as bad as they do to regain control and the right is at war with itself over how liberal to settle.

[XenaLee]

The gallows if there is justice. But that will only come after the collapse concludes or is at least well underway.

Yes it will collapse. At this point I do not see how this already rolling snowball suddenly travels back uphill. Not when the left wants it as bad as they do to regain control and the right is at war with itself over how liberal to settle.

And not when there are so many on the right (again, supposedly)..... that seem to be so gung-ho to assist the left in taking down Trump.

[Norm Lenhart]

And not when there are so many on the right (again, supposedly)..... that seem to be so gung-ho to assist the left in taking down Trump.

Regardless of who sits in the President's chair, the ONLY thing anyone that believes in the Constitution should worry about is the truth. If they are intent on either attacking Trump or Defending Trump 'no matter what' (there's that leftist phrase again) then they are neither conservative or American at heart. They are scum. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to be proud of attacking the guy out of sheer hate or being pissed they lost. AS I said in another thread recently, he's the President, like it or not. He should be held to account. But holding him to account and doing the left's job for them over completely invented bullshit or personal issues is disgusting.

[XenaLee]

Regardless of who sits in the President's chair, the ONLY thing anyone that believes in the Constitution should worry about is the truth. If they are intent on either attacking Trump or Defending Trump 'no matter what' (there's that leftist phrase again) then they are neither conservative or American at heart. They are scum. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to be proud of attacking the guy out of sheer hate or being pissed they lost. AS I said in another thread recently, he's the President, like it or not. He should be held to account. But holding him to account and doing the left's job for them over completely invented bullshit or personal issues is disgusting.

Agree completely.

[Suppressed]

Regardless of who sits in the President's chair, the ONLY thing anyone that believes in the Constitution should worry about is the truth.

Are you implying the video is fake?  I think it's quite true, and is yet another example of how we have a bunch of amateurs making the US look foolish yet again.  A couple of buffoons and a few children careening here and there with cobbled-together ideas, and tweets that sound like they follow a drunken binge.

Remember all the talk about wanting adults in charge again?  This crew makes Obama/Biden look like they had big-boy pants on!

Ignoring this won't do any good. At least if there's some criticism, perhaps they'll take notice and change the lunacy.

[Norm Lenhart]

Are you implying the video is fake?  I think it's quite true, and is yet another example of how we have a bunch of amateurs making the US look foolish yet again.  A couple of buffoons and a few children careening here and there with cobbled-together ideas, and tweets that sound like they follow a drunken binge.

Remember all the talk about wanting adults in charge again?  This crew makes Obama/Biden look like they had big-boy pants on!

Ignoring this won't do any good. At least if there's some criticism, perhaps they'll take notice and change the lunacy.

I'm not implying anything. I'm flatly stating that the truth is the only thing that matters regardless of who gets hurt by it. If it's Trump, so be it. If it's the open left, so be it.

So far I see a lot of people doing their best to attach complete BS to Trump. There's one poster that can't even let a fun IQ test pass without inane Trump comments. That person does not care about anything but their vedetta. There are many like it.

You know why people like me who were nevertrump adapted a more neutral attitude post election? Because the truth was what mattered to us all along. Had people cared about that back then, we would not be where we are today. See Ted Cruz for details. But here we are. So we can immediately default to the WTF school of political masturbatory suicide or we can do what we should have all along. Pursue truth rather than bitch about personalities.

[Suppressed]

I'm not implying anything. I'm flatly stating that the truth is the only thing that matters regardless of who gets hurt by it. If it's Trump, so be it. If it's the open left, so be it.

Truth seems far from Trump circles.

Cruz and Oswald
Having the goods on Obama's birth
Bowling Green
Seeing thousands of Muslims celebrating in NJ on 9/11
Etc.

Lies They're used to nobody calling them on their lies. Now, both the honest and the Left are doing so.

[Idiot]

Truth seems far from Trump circles.

Cruz and Oswald
Having the goods on Obama's birth
Bowling Green
Seeing thousands of Muslims celebrating in NJ on 9/11
Etc.

Lies They're used to nobody calling them on their lies. Now, both the honest and the Left are doing so.

Moderator....

Please move the Trump impeachment clock up 1 year...to 1 year into his term of office.

Thank you.

[r9etb]

Ignoring this won't do any good. At least if there's some criticism, perhaps they'll take notice and change the lunacy.

Organizations formed by a narcissist and his enablers don't work that way.  For the narcissist, the proper response to criticism is to cast out the heretics and tighten the circle.  The Obama administration is a perfect example, and I've personally seen it at work on a smaller scale, as well.

Time will tell with Trump, but I have to say that the behavior of the loyal naifs who make up his inner circle looks disturbingly familiar to me.

[Suppressed]

Organizations formed by a narcissist and his enablers don't work that way.  For the narcissist, the proper response to criticism is to cast out the heretics and tighten the circle.  The Obama administration is a perfect example, and I've personally seen it at work on a smaller scale, as well.

Time will tell with Trump, but I have to say that the behavior of the loyal naifs who make up his inner circle looks disturbingly familiar to me.

Oh, I know you're right, but my hope is that some of the circle will be able to have some subtle influences if they catch on.

Crazy hope, perhaps, but I'm trying to be an optimist.

[Sanguine]

Oh, I know you're right, but my hope is that some of the circle will be able to have some subtle influences if they catch on.

Crazy hope, perhaps, but I'm trying to be an optimist.

Narcissists are fairly common in upper levels of business and government.  They usually manage to make things work.

[INVAR]

@INVAR

Probably that too. But really, it's simply what a few of us have said for a long time now. We are amidst a societal collapse.

Yup.  The civil society is imploding right before our eyes, and the Rule of Law was completely upended during the Reign of Obama and affirmed by Congress and the GOP Establishment itself.

No one yet is even discussing the consequences of what Obama has sown that we have yet to suffer, and no one is discussing the debt which will of mathematical certainty, collapse the currency at some point in the near future to absolute worthlessness.

We have a population of half that is on some kind of government welfare, we have open borders in a welfare state and no assimilation expectation.  We have imported millions of hostiles into the country on taxpayer dime.  We have 3/4 of the population wholly ignorant of our history, heritage and foundations - and the 1/4 that remain, cannot agree among themselves what the definition of liberty actually means as intended by our Forefathers.

Then there is the culture itself - one that celebrates evil as good, and good as evil; that preaches deviancy and demands ignorance; emotion rather than logic, self gratification rather than service to anything other than self.

Civilizations have totally collapsed over far less than what we have stacked up for ourselves.

[ABX]

Is there another video because this is a nothingburger? Only a couple of frames where he waives his hands and that could mean anything from I'm pissed to 'oh wow you got me a pizza, thanks' to that's just how he talks.

[ABX]

Who video tapped this?

It appears, based on the grain and haze in the image, this was shot from a pretty far distance. I would guess they probably were using a 600mm across the plaza in their offices. Nothing improper about it.

[driftdiver]

It appears, based on the grain and haze in the image, this was shot from a pretty far distance. I would guess they probably were using a 600mm across the plaza in their offices. Nothing improper about it.

@AbaraXas
Nothing improper?   In the old days this was called spying.   

I am surprised the Oval Office doesn't have their windows blacked out or made so that you can't see thru the windows.

[r9etb]

I am surprised the Oval Office doesn't have their windows blacked out or made so that you can't see thru the windows.

Same here.  Seems like an OpSec risk, if nothing else.

[ABX]

@AbaraXas
Nothing improper?   In the old days this was called spying.   

I am surprised the Oval Office doesn't have their windows blacked out or made so that you can't see thru the windows.

If it can be viewed from a public space, even with a zoom lens, it falls under the 1st Amendment (generally street photography). I know, that is very controversial, but this is one of those type of debates that have happened before and the photographer/videographer has come out on top. Basically, if you are shooting from a public space, everything within your view you can shoot, even someone in a window.

Example of a recently won case, Arne Svenson's Neighbors collection. http://www.arnesvenson.com/theneighbors.html

[r9etb]

If it can be viewed from a public space, even with a zoom lens, it falls under the 1st Amendment (generally street photography). I know, that is very controversial, but this is one of those type of debates that have happened before and the photographer/videographer has come out on top. Basically, if you are shooting from a public space, everything within your view you can shoot, even someone in a window.

Sure, but if you were the Secret Service, or a security manager of any sort .... wouldn't you think that times and identities of people entering or leaving the Oval Office would be something you'd prefer to keep close to the vest?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Yes. I think the concept is called "in plain view". Bannon is arguing in front of an un "blinded" window. If you stand naked in front of the large bay windows in the front of your house, you cannot expect to have privacy.

Is it too much to ask the WH to draw some shades?