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There's a joke in there somewhere.

Forgive me that I don't see it.

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Bunch is with the Free Beacon, is he not?  Was this intended irony, or has he taken drugs and become a Leftist?  Is he demonstrating absurdity by being absurd?

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There's a joke in there somewhere.

Forgive me that I don't see it.

 :pondering:

Bunch is with the Free Beacon, is he not?  Was this intended irony, or has he taken drugs and become a Leftist?  Is he demonstrating absurdity by being absurd?

The people tweeting this haven't the most remote clue about Fascism! As in if Trump really was a Fascist nobody would be speaking out against him on ANY platform!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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The people tweeting this haven't the most remote clue about Fascism! As in if Trump really was a Fascist nobody would be speaking out against him on ANY platform!

I got that part.

Went over like a lead balloon.

About as funny as a turd in the punch bowl.

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I got that part.

Went over like a lead balloon.

About as funny as a turd in the punch bowl.
Turds in punch bowls are funny--as long as it's someone else's punch bowl and you BYOB.
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I got that part.

Went over like a lead balloon.

About as funny as a turd in the punch bowl.

You asked and I answered.  Never said it was funny but obviously the author and the 7849 who retweeted it as well as the 14503 who liked it thought it was something!
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There's a joke in there somewhere.

Forgive me that I don't see it.

 :pondering:

Bunch is with the Free Beacon, is he not?  Was this intended irony, or has he taken drugs and become a Leftist?  Is he demonstrating absurdity by being absurd?

Yes, he's demonstrating the absurdity of calling the President a fascist.   No one speaks out against a true fascist .... at least not twice.   

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Yes, he's demonstrating the absurdity of calling the President a fascist.   No one speaks out against a true fascist .... at least not twice.

Must be my own foible.  That to me just falls as flat as Medieval Earth.

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I guess every board gets some fake-poster out of some mosque somewhere...

I have been here at this forum for a very long time.  I am a Christian.  All Trump has done is put on a show.  Don't say I didn't tell you so when the terrorists coming from France, Pakistan or even right here in the U.S. set off some bomb.  Trump has only stuck a stick in the hornets nest jabbing it and challenging it.

Your an idiot.
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Yes, I did. and I noticed this bit about the writer: (emphasis mine).

While Trump does leave himself to predictable accusations of being disorganized and "not knowing how things are supposed to work' in D.C. I find it ironic that those accusations come from a former Director of the Office of Public Affairs at the DOJ (Eric Holder's spokesman).

I must note that the transition isn't the well oiled static line jumper stack at the ramp, but instead the typical GOP transition team without the Congress on line and ready to dive in and get to work. Typically, the Dems have their legislation written up and ready to go anyway, but especially when they have a fellow traveler with a pen. The GOP, not so much. In fact, for the most part, not at all. Without the necessary Congressional support, without the bills going across the desk, Trump's ability to accomplish things will be limited.

He needs to clear out holdover staff until the leaks stop. The media getting things before he can announce them reeks of a level of porosity and permeability that would be the envy of a petroleum reservoir engineer, but is lethal in a policymaking environment.

As for the article, well slathered with inflammatory rhetoric (expected from a Holder holdover), there are a couple of good points, but I think they are mostly overblown.

Trump needs to seal the leaks, work with the Congress and advisors, and get something done right.

Totally agree! 

And Trump not only needs to fire the holdovers, but he needs to sweep the whole damned WH.... ie Bobby Axlerod style.  It's the only way to be sure.   :laugh:
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I have been here at this forum for a very long time.  I am a Christian.  All Trump has done is put on a show.  Don't say I didn't tell you so when the terrorists coming from France, Pakistan or even right here in the U.S. set off some bomb.  Trump has only stuck a stick in the hornets nest jabbing it and challenging it.

Your an idiot.

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Yeah.  Misspellings and wrong-word usage, the sort that Google Translate won't catch...kinda a giveaway.

Doesn't matter.  I don't care if this poster has a Medal of Freedom.  The idea put forth, that we're gonna MAKE THEM MAD...think about that, make insane homicidal maniacs who live for slaughter, who've been screaming DEAF TWO AMERUKKA!! since I was in high school...who kidnapped, enslaved and killed American sailors 200 years ago on the Barbary Coast...we're gonna make them REALLY mad. 

I mean, they were just kiddin', when they took down the World Trade Center.  Now they're coming AFTER us.

I don't know who this person is, or her mental state...but IMHO what she puts out is nonsensical and I'm not buying it.

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I have been here at this forum for a very long time.  I am a Christian.  All Trump has done is put on a show.  Don't say I didn't tell you so when the terrorists coming from France, Pakistan or even right here in the U.S. set off some bomb.  Trump has only stuck a stick in the hornets nest jabbing it and challenging it.

Your an idiot.

It's not nice to call someone an idiot.  Especially when you are exhibiting the same symptom yourself.   It's a matter of projection, apparently. 

As for Trump jabbing a hornets nest.... wake the hell up and smell the reality.  That hornet's nest was jabbed and agitated good and plenty by Barack Hussein Obama and his cabal of rabid, America-hating, jihadi Muslim loving Democrats.  Anything that happens in the USA in the near future is more likely to be fallout from Obama's regime.  Get...a....clue.
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   I get that, and it cuts both ways the Trump Administration is in overdrive releasing their own 'flavor' of FAKE news, as most Administrations do, which is just as caustic.

If you'll pardon the expression, there's the administration's side, there's the opposition's side, and then there's the truth.

Somewhere.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

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It's not nice to call someone an idiot.  Especially when you are exhibiting the same symptom yourself.   It's a matter of projection, apparently. 

As for Trump jabbing a hornets nest.... wake the hell up and smell the reality.  That hornet's nest was jabbed and agitated good and plenty by Barack Hussein Obama and his cabal of rabid, America-hating, jihadi Muslim loving Democrats.  Anything that happens in the USA in the near future is more likely to be fallout from Obama's regime.  Get...a....clue.

And its immature to call someone a Muslim because they don't agree with Trump. 

Obama helped the terrorists and so is Trump.  Went from one liberal to another.  Flynn the Democrat probably helped form his ban based on the Obama list.  Which is small for good reason.  Because he didn't want to designate terrorist nations terrorists.  Your still praising Secretary Clinton while terrorists from many countries can come in without question.

So good job on you pretending that you are safe.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2017, 02:37:37 pm by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Politico, and 23 days into a new administration.

Better get the opinion of Meryl Streep, as well.

We're now on Day 24, and Morning Joe continues to hyperventilate. They should be taking partial credit for putting The Donald into the WH, thanks to all the free air time they gave him from November 2015-May of last year.
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Marching doesn't take education.

OUR troops are educated; but America is exceptional in many ways.  Our forces don't loot; they don't rape; and they don't settle in for imperial conquest.

I would bet you that most of those bodies marching in that picture ARE illiterate; and while they're doing their drilling, they're dreaming of that cute little goat on the edge of the base...for after lights-out.


What, you think we're so innocent?

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Since I have taken such a hit on this thread I will make one more very glaring observation.

Trumps ban is just like his great wall.  A minor annoyance to the Cartels and all those criminals he was going to stop.  First it was going to be a big beautiful wall and the Mexicans were going to pay.  Now its a series of wall and fence.  Just go a few miles down the road and get through the fence portion.

In the same way the ban is only an annoyance.  If you think that these terrorist organizations don't already have people who can get in based on a 7 nation ban your crazy.  Its only an annoyance.  Its even a call to jihad.  One call to the sleeper cell in any number of nations not on the ban..........

But it was a great show all of the ruckus in the first 23 days.  Entertainment for the whole world.

Mexican terrorism

https://www.google.com/search?q=beheadings+Mexico&rlz=1T4AURU_enUS517US518&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi9ioSU9I_SAhVBVGMKHfukBEYQ_AUICigD&biw=1088&bih=426

And Arabs do and will continue to come across the Southern border.  When there is a will there is a way.  Especially when a President is all talk and no action.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2017, 03:33:30 pm by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Oh good grief....Trump has been president for less than a month, and already he's supposed to be a failure? This is Politico....they wouldn't give him credit if he had managed to depose the Mullahs and cured cancer.
And I'm speaking as a person who held his nose and voted for His Orangeness.
I don't expect a lot from Trump...just better than King Barack the worst president ever.
So far he's made more good moves than bad.  I think I'd wait a while before we start echoing leftist publications.

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Oh good grief....Trump has been president for less than a month, and already he's supposed to be a failure? This is Politico....they wouldn't give him credit if he had managed to depose the Mullahs and cured cancer.
And I'm speaking as a person who held his nose and voted for His Orangeness.
I don't expect a lot from Trump...just better than King Barack the worst president ever.
So far he's made more good moves than bad.  I think I'd wait a while before we start echoing leftist publications.


Give me a list of approved publications then. I'll run them by the committee for public truth before posting them on here.


Wouldn't want to disturb the snowflakes and their safe space.


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We're now on Day 24, and Morning Joe continues to hyperventilate. They should be taking partial credit for putting The Donald into the WH, thanks to all the free air time they gave him from November 2015-May of last year.

Do you SERIOUSLY think they would not be doing this same thing to Ted Cruz - or any other Republican that had won????????

Seriously?

Do you think this is OK?  Did they give the same treatment to Hillary or Obama?  Can you not see this???

Seriously?

Don't let your dislike of Trump blind you to who the real enemy is - and what is going on.  They would be doing this to any of us!
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Do you SERIOUSLY think they would not be doing this same thing to Ted Cruz - or any other Republican that had won????????

Seriously?

Do you think this is OK?  Did they give the same treatment to Hillary or Obama?  Can you not see this???

Seriously?

Don't let your dislike of Trump blind you to who the real enemy is - and what is going on.  They would be doing this to any of us!

They'd be doing the same thing to Cruz, Kasich or Yeb Bush.

You are right, we are where we are. Either recognize who the enemy is or hop on over to the other side.

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Give me a list of approved publications then. I'll run them by the committee for public truth before posting them on here.


Wouldn't want to disturb the snowflakes and their safe space.


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Sure, and while you're at it post critiques from The Nation, The Progressive, The New Republic, Slate, Salon, The Daily Worker,  and other "middle of the road" publications. I'm sure they'll all be honest and fair.  :silly:
I'm not a Trump fan (in fact, I dislike him intensely), but I won't condemn him outright because he makes a few flubs starting out.

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Do you SERIOUSLY think they would not be doing this same thing to Ted Cruz - or any other Republican that had won????????

Seriously?

Do you think this is OK?  Did they give the same treatment to Hillary or Obama?  Can you not see this???

Seriously?

Don't let your dislike of Trump blind you to who the real enemy is - and what is going on.  They would be doing this to any of us!

Post of the week as far as I'm concerned!!

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They'd be doing the same thing to Cruz, Kasich or Yeb Bush.

You are right, we are where we are. Either recognize who the enemy is or hop on over to the other side.

Some of the people here seem to be quite comfortable on the other side, using their talking points and biased, and even dishonest news.  In fact, have you noticed?  It's about all they do!  They use Leftist memes with disturbing regularity.  It's one thing to allow a wide range of views - but at some point - when is enough?  If a poster has vowed to double down on the use of leftist resources.......

When does it cross over into aiding the enemy?  The common enemy, those that wish to destroy our country - and have damned near done it!  Would Ronald Reagan be putting up with this?  I don't think so.  Sometimes, in an attempt to have a "big tent" - undesirables slip in - usurpers, moles, professional agitators.  I believe we have several here - just calling yourself conservative isn't enough.  Let's weigh what is actually being said and promoted and make an assessment then. 

I think this kind of "resistance" is detrimental to the President's attempt to clean up Washington DC.  It really disturbs me too.
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