All eyes on Trump amid "serious spike" in Ukraine war

[Cripplecreek]

AVDIIVKA, Ukraine -- Freezing and nerve-shattered residents of an eastern Ukraine town battered by an upsurge in fighting between troops and Russia-backed rebels flocked to a humanitarian aid center Wednesday to receive food and warm up.

Heavy shelling of government-held Avdiivka, just north of the rebel stronghold city of Donetsk, began over the weekend and persisted into early Wednesday. Donetsk city also was hit.

At least 10 people have been killed since Monday and dozens wounded.

Separatist rebels have been fighting government troops and volunteer brigades in eastern Ukraine since April 2014 in a conflict that has killed more than 9,700 people. A pact reached nearly two years ago in Minsk, Belarus, called for a cease-fire, for heavy weapons to be pulled back from the front lines and for a political resolution of the conflict, but the agreement has been observed only fitfully and skirmishes and artillery fire have persisted.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-rebels-war-donetsk-avdiivka-wait-for-trump-reaction/

[txradioguy]

[Cripplecreek]

Top secret subject apparently. 

[txradioguy]

Top secret subject apparently. 

Gee I can't imagine why?

[Cripplecreek]

Gee I can't imagine why?

Mostly because the king hasn't decreed any talking points for the subjects to repeat.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I wonder where you two idiots were when Obama was installed after 10 days.

Go catalog what he did in that time compared to Trump.

[skeeter]

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/ukraine-us-will-never-accept-russias-annexation-crimea

[txradioguy]

I wonder where you two idiots were when Obama was installed after 10 days.

Go catalog what he did in that time compared to Trump.

Criticizing the things I thought O-bozo was doing wrong.

And there's more smoke that fire to what Trump has actually done or not done in the first 10 days.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Criticizing the things I thought O-bozo was doing wrong.

And there's more smoke that fire to what Trump has actually done or not done in the first 10 days.

Absolute BS.  You have an eye for the negative only.

And it is directed at the wrong people.

[TomSea]

They just warned Iran; they can not overplay their hand.

If Putin and this line of Russian kleptocrats are ever tossed out of office, there are plenty of just and democratic politicians there that want to give back Crimea to Ukraine and end that war, i.e. Navalny.

Perhaps what Trump said of McCain and Graham should be repeated here, do they want to start World War III?

[TomSea]

Tomorrow, the White House will probably advise on Ukraine.

[corbe]

   There was a collective 'oh $hit' heard across the Country of Ukraine this afternoon.
 

[HonestJohn]

   There was a collective 'oh $hit' heard across the Country of Ukraine this afternoon.
 

It's who Trump wanted.  And our Republicans in the Senate thought it wise to approve him.

[corbe]

   I may be wrong @HonestJohn but I don't think Putin's ever given a Friendship award to any Ukrainian, and that was the basis of my jest.

[TomSea]

Sitting with him throughout the hearings and

***jimney

In fact, he looked like his counselor.

[TomSea]

The Iranian Missile test one day and an increase in fighting by the Russian side a few days later.

Does one think this is coincidence?

[corbe]

   Just because Ted thinks he'll make a good SOS, doesn't mean I do.
   Ted also thought it'd be a good idea to bring Beck onto his campaign, I disagreed there also.
   He still get's more right than your guy and on that we can agree to disagree.

[TomSea]

See, in retrospect, though he was heavily criticized at the time, Rubio showed some cojones in asking Tillerson if he thought Putin was a war criminal. A valid question.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

   Just because Ted thinks he'll make a good SOS, doesn't mean I do.
   Ted also thought it'd be a good idea to bring Beck onto his campaign, I disagreed there also.
   He still get's more right than your guy and on that we can agree to disagree.

Just curious - how many of the past few SOS would you approve of?

For a guide, here's a list of the last ten:

60   George P. Shultz   
61   James Baker   
62   Lawrence Eagleburger
63   Warren Christopher   
64   Madeleine Albright   
65   Colin Powell   
66   Condoleezza Rice   
67   Hillary Clinton   
68   John Kerry   
69   Rex Tillerson   

In my mind, he ranks in the top 5

[txradioguy]

The Iranian Missile test one day and an increase in fighting by the Russian side a few days later.

Does one think this is coincidence?

No such thing as a coincidence.

[corbe]

  @IsailedawayfromFR

   Baker and Condoleeza without further research the rest are not inspiring to me in the least.
   I've stated my reservations about Tillerson and I've also stated that I'll give him a chance, but blind faith is a great album and that's all.

[Frank Cannon]

Just curious - how many of the past few SOS would you approve of?

For a guide, here's a list of the last ten:

60   George P. Shultz   
61   James Baker   
62   Lawrence Eagleburger
63   Warren Christopher   
64   Madeleine Albright   
65   Colin Powell   
66   Condoleezza Rice   
67   Hillary Clinton   
68   John Kerry   
69   Rex Tillerson   

In my mind, he ranks in the top 5

Wow! That's a list of terrible. There are only 2 I thought were good (Schultz and Eagleberger) and 2 that were acceptable (Condi and Baker). The rest are garbage. Tillerson has a very low bar to achieve greatness compared to the rest.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

  @IsailedawayfromFR

   Baker and Condoleeza without further research the rest are not inspiring to me in the least.
   I've stated my reservations about Tillerson and I've also stated that I'll give him a chance, but blind faith is a great album and that's all.

Blind Faith was one of the best vinyl I ever purchased.  Could not get enough of it.

And Tillerson will do fine.  He knows the ropes better than any on that list I sent.  Exxon is a big international company but is the most American of any of the big oil companies, so he will defend our principles well.

And his home of Wichita Falls is as American a town you will ever visit.  I don't even have to mention he attended the best school in the country, too.

[geronl]

I see the media is still practicing the myth that Russian troops aren't involved.

[EC]

Strange how CBS only noticed it's an actual war AFTER Jan 20th .....