DNC Expels Chairman Candidate From Race for ‘Disgusting’ Criticism of Islam

[Jazzhead]

Your problem will be you will never know which they are.  So how would your plan ever eliminate them?

We are fighting a nation without boundaries, and the western world cannot differentiate. Muslims can, hence they must be the ones to locate the trouble or become themselves the target.

This has been a problem only in the last 30 years or so.   We've made mistakes aplenty - perhaps in hindsight we should have propped up Mideast dictators rather than assume we could spawn an "Arab spring" of democracy.  The demise of secular fascism in the Middle East has led to the rise of religious fascism.   And there's been no greater source of death and destruction throughout human history than religion.   Sometimes I muse that if God ever were to return to earth, I bet He'd slay the religious and spare the rest of us.   (Just kidding folks; I'm in a dark mood this morning.)   

But this notion that we must fight 1.5 billion Muslims, most of them peaceable, is lunacy.   

[DiogenesLamp]

  And there's been no greater source of death and destruction throughout human history than religion. 

Communism has killed 100 million people last century.   Islam of course killed 100 million people in the 16th century.   

A more accurate statement would be "there is no greater source of death and destruction throughout human history than Atheism and Islam."   


The death toll from other religions does not even approach that of Islam or Communism.   

[sneakypete]

Nope. they are all fine upstanding folks. Not genocidal bigots like American white devils.

@Norm Lenhart

True,true.

Never let one babysit your goats,though.

[beandog]

This has been a problem only in the last 30 years or so.   We've made mistakes aplenty - perhaps in hindsight we should have propped up Mideast dictators rather than assume we could spawn an "Arab spring" of democracy.  The demise of secular fascism in the Middle East has led to the rise of religious fascism.   And there's been no greater source of death and destruction throughout human history than religion.   Sometimes I muse that if God ever were to return to earth, I bet He'd slay the religious and spare the rest of us.   (Just kidding folks; I'm in a dark mood this morning.)   

But this notion that we must fight 1.5 billion Muslims, most of them peaceable, is lunacy.

What's lunacy is that you think most Muslims are peaceable.  Even if most of them don't commit the terrorist acts, the majority of them agree with the terrorist acts being committed, which is just as bad.

[sneakypete]

If we insist on a new crusade against Islam, we'll lose. 

@Jazzhead

You STILL don't get it. ISLAM DECLARED WAR ON THE REST OF THE WORLD SEVERAL CENTURIES AGO. This is just a continuation of a ongoing Holy War/Jihad. Where the west keeps screwing up is allowing them time to regroup and breed a couple of new generations of Jihadists to keep renewing the fight over and over.

The current generation of raghead leadership is the most dangerous because they are now teamed with the globalists to overthrow every independent nation on earth to create a One World Government that is dominate over all. Once that goal is achieved,the globalists will take the remains of the worlds armies,now united under one Maximum Leader,and wipe the Muslims off the face of the Earth to prevent them from causing THEM any trouble.

OUR side of this war is currently as passive players. We patiently wait for them to attack up,weep tears of sorrow,and than hit back in a VERY limited way,while apologizing for fighting back,and not even targeting the leadership. We take out a few Privates and maybe a company commander or two,and leave the leadership,and more importantly,their financiers,unharmed and free to attack again as we sit back and think "THAT raid will show them who's the boss! Yup,you bet! They learned their lesson THIS time!"

"THEY" will NEVER "learn a lesson" because the ones we are attacking and killing are retards that can't even read or write. Clueless morons following what they believe to be the "word of GAWD!" and the path to an eternity of pleasure and comfort. We keep doing this over and over,and either our own leadership is as clueless as the retards we keep killing,or they are complicit with the current Jihad planners because anybody with the common sense to pour piss out of a boot realizes that when you keep doing something over and over and it keeps failing over and over,it's time to change your strategy to one that works.  In this case it would be to go after the MoFo's giving the orders and financing the attacks.

I keep saying this over and over and it is so blindingly obvious to me I honestly can't understand why it's not that obvious to everyone else. Especially what passes for our political leadership. NOBODY EVER WON A WAR BY KILLING PRIVATES. If you want to win a war,you MUST kill the enemy leadership and the people who fund the war for the enemy. Do that,and the war stops and everybody goes  home. This ain't rocket science,people! WAKE THE BLEEP UP!

The sad,sad truth is this hasn't been happening BECAUSE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE FINANCING JIHAD HAVE ALSO BEEN PRIME CONTRIBUTORS TO THE DNC AND THE RNC CANDIDATES! They ain't about to shut down Saudi financing for Jihad because if they did,it would shut down THEIR access to Saudi money.

Which is in MY opinion is one reason so many professional DNC AND RNC "party peep-pulls" are so outraged at the election of Trump. Trump isn't and never has been listed on that payroll,and they are afraid he is going to upset their apple carts. He is already a multi-billionaire,and his ego is more important to him than money,so he can't be bribed to take a "political dive" to keep their money flowing.

If we fight a focused war against the Islamofascists, enlisting (among others) in the cause Muslims who are their victims or potential victims, we can win. 

You really are child-like in some respects. IF THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE BEING VICTIMS/MARTYRS,THEY WOULD HAVE OVERTHROWN ISLAM CENTURIES AGO.

Cult members are cult members because they have a NEED to belong. Look at all the evil the Catholic Church has done over the centuries,most of it done to Catholics, as an example of what I am talking about. See any shortage of Catholics running around?

Same thing with Jews and Judaism. Most Jews are no more rabid orthodox Jews than most Catholics are rabid Roman Catholics,yet both groups still identify with the rabid True-Believers of each faith,and side with them instead of trying to eliminate them from the power structures. It's a "group think sense of identity" thing,but MUCH more focused with Muslims than with Jews or Catholics because Islam still insists on keeping the masses illiterate and ignorant. You can reason with 90 percent (a number I pulled out of my ass) of the Jews and Catholics BECAUSE they are intelligent,reasonable people who are literate and open-minded. This is NOT the case with Muslims.

But easy bigotry against all Muslims creates enemies we don't have to.  But, hey, that's Trump's strategy on a whole host of issues, it appears.   

"There is no one so blind as those who refuse to see." Your dogma is going to end up biting you in the ass.

[sneakypete]

Communism has killed 100 million people last century.

   

If you don't think Communism is a religion,you have never talked with a Communist.

 

[HonestJohn]

Because after killing 100 million Hindus 500 years ago,  and after killing 2.4 million Hindus back in 1971,   they have got it all out of their system now,  and henceforth they will play well with others.   


Also,  anybody doubting this is a bigot.

The Mughals and the proto-Pakistanis did that.  They were followers of Islam, yes.

Grab a Moroccan of the time and ask them if the Indians should die and they'd have said no.

Politics kills, especially when it uses religion as justification... and for demonization.

[Sanguine]

These arguments defending islam are absolutely idiotic.

[Bigun]

These arguments defending islam are absolutely idiotic.

Quite so! And will get us ALL killed if allowed to prevail!

[DiogenesLamp]

The Mughals and the proto-Pakistanis did that.  They were followers of Islam, yes.

Grab a Moroccan of the time and ask them if the Indians should die and they'd have said no.

Politics kills, especially when it uses religion as justification... and for demonization.

Yes,  I see you point.  Religion was just an excuse to kill people for their wealth and land.   Just because the religion explicitly said to kill non believers is irrelevant.   The exact same thing would happen if these people believed in a religion that said "turn the other cheek"  and "Love one another."   



Such a religion would obviously be just as murderous. 

[HonestJohn]

Yes,  I see you point.  Religion was just an excuse to kill people for their wealth and land.   Just because the religion explicitly said to kill non believers is irrelevant.   The exact same thing would happen if these people believed in a religion that said "turn the other cheek"  and "Love one another."   

Such a religion would obviously be just as murderous.

The exact same thing did happen. 

Prussia, for example, wasn't inhabited by "Prussians", but by the descendents of those that - at the behest of the church - went in and killed/converted all the "old Prussians".

And that wasn't uncommon in Northern Europe.

Childrens crusade ring a bell?  Inquisition?

30 years war?

Colonization of South/Central America?

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Parts of the Islamic world are, in essence, undergoing the equivalent of the Protestant reformation, complete with the violence.  However, with modern technology, it's easy for those two sides to draw in foreign powers.

So, try using the standard by which you judge to look at your own faith's past.

[sneakypete]

The exact same thing did happen. 

Prussia, for example, wasn't inhabited by "Prussians", but by the descendents of those that - at the behest of the church - went in and killed/converted all the "old Prussians".

And that wasn't uncommon in Northern Europe.

Childrens crusade ring a bell?  Inquisition?

30 years war?

Colonization of South/Central America?

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All very true,with the prime difference being that Christianity has evolved,mostly thanks to Martin Luther,himself a Catholic Priest that saw and understood the outrages for being what they were,and ended up starting a revolution within the Catholic Church.

So,when are your "Non-Jihad Muslims" going to start a Muslim Revolution to overthrow Jihad and reform the Muslim dictatorship passing itself off as a religion?

Nobody has EVER changed a religion from without. Change ALWAYS comes from within.

SO......,the world is left with two options,either the Muslims themselves change the tenets of their religion,or the west does it for them by killing every single one of them we can track down,because make no mistake about it,one or the other of those events are the only solution to this problem.

The west has been trying to get Islam to live peacefully with it's neighbors for several hundred years now,and the only result has been that we kill off so many of them they have no choice but to go back home to lick their wounds and breed another couple of generations of retards,and then they start back up again. Same bunch of backwards retards,same goal of Muslim control over the whole world,but new century.

Since it is so obvious that Stevie Wonder has to wear shades to look at it that Islam isn't about to change itself,that means the west IS going to have to eliminate Islam as anything but a whispered rumor from the past. The only real question that remains to be answered is "How many innocent men,women,and children will have to die in the west and how many of our freedoms are we going to have to lose before we finally admit what has to be done,and do it?"

[DCPatriot]

People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.

 

[txradioguy]

At the end of the days...the difference between how Christianity is today and how Islam is today boils down tot he fact that Christianity went through a reformation...Islam hasn't.

And until Islam has it's reformation...they will continue to do everything from a 14th Century mindset.

[DCPatriot]

At the end of the days...the difference between how Christianity is today and how Islam is today boils down tot he fact that Christianity went through a reformation...Islam hasn't.

And until Islam has it's reformation...they will continue to do everything from a 14th Century mindset.

The only "reformation" for Islam is to kill sufficient numbers of them so that they will go back to whateverTF they do...for another 500 years.

[txradioguy]

The only "reformation" for Islam is to kill sufficient numbers of them so that they will go back to whateverTF they do...for another 500 years.

Sad but true.

[Sanguine]

At the end of the days...the difference between how Christianity is today and how Islam is today boils down tot he fact that Christianity went through a reformation...Islam hasn't.

And until Islam has it's reformation...they will continue to do everything from a 14th Century mindset.

One big, and to my way of thinking, insurmountable difference is that Christianity had a foundation upon which to base a reform: Christ and his break with ancient Judaism and His teaching: "“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”"  Islam has nothing like this to base a reformation upon.

[DiogenesLamp]

The exact same thing did happen. 

Prussia, for example, wasn't inhabited by "Prussians", but by the descendents of those that - at the behest of the church - went in and killed/converted all the "old Prussians".

And that wasn't uncommon in Northern Europe.

Childrens crusade ring a bell?  Inquisition?

30 years war?

Colonization of South/Central America?

---

Parts of the Islamic world are, in essence, undergoing the equivalent of the Protestant reformation, complete with the violence.  However, with modern technology, it's easy for those two sides to draw in foreign powers.

So, try using the standard by which you judge to look at your own faith's past.

I read your entire message.  I didn't see any numbers in it,  therefore I conclude it doesn't contain any information which directly addresses the point I made. 


Provide some numbers please,  so we can compare the body count of one against the other. 

[txradioguy]

@Norm Lenhart

True,true.

Never let one babysit your goats,though.

Or your male child on Thursday nights. 

[skeeter]

At the end of the days...the difference between how Christianity is today and how Islam is today boils down tot he fact that Christianity went through a reformation...Islam hasn't.

And until Islam has it's reformation...they will continue to do everything from a 14th Century mindset.

Its tough to reform a 'religion' that was invented as a money making scam benefiting a 7th century reprobate.

[Bigun]

One big, and to my way of thinking, insurmountable difference is that Christianity had a foundation upon which to base a reform: Christ and his break with ancient Judaism and His teaching: "“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”"  Islam has nothing like this to base a reformation upon.

 

The simple fact is that Islam is NOT a religion at all! Islam is, and always has been, a political movement wearing the cloak of religion!

[Sanguine]

Its tough to reform a 'religion' that was invented as a money making scam benefiting a 7th century reprobate.

And, that's the crux of the matter.


(Not Cruz, I didn't say Cruz!)

[Jazzhead]

These arguments defending islam are absolutely idiotic.

I'm not "defending" Islam.  (Indeed, I'm finding it increasingly difficult these days to defend any religion.  The breed just seems to be naturally infected with bigotry, intolerance and dogmatic obsession with proselytizing and conversion.   I consider myself a Christian,  but that's really for one reason only - Jesus Christ, the most inspiring moral philosopher in human history.   But religion is tribalism, and I for one have had my fill of it.)       

What I am saying is that we need to defeat Islamofascism, and it will be infinitely harder to do so if we validate their claim that we are at war with the whole of Islam.   

[Wingnut]

Its tough to reform a 'religion' that was invented as a money making scam benefiting a 7th century reprobate.

Tell me about.  Just look at Scientology! Islam without the long blades.

[txradioguy]

Its tough to reform a 'religion' that was invented as a money making scam benefiting a 7th century reprobate.

Yeah there is that too...