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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #750 on: May 15, 2017, 10:55:29 pm »
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« Reply #752 on: May 18, 2017, 07:40:35 am »
Grunge singer-songwriter Chris Cornell, of Soundgarden and Audioslave fame, dies at 52

Cornell, originally from Seattle, was one of the earliest musicians to embrace grunge, the style of rock that would come to the forefront in the 1990s. He was a founding member of Soundgarden when it formed in 1984, initially as drummer before switching to vocals. The band's success became incrementally more successful as grunge entered the mainstream until, in 1994, their best-known album Superunknown was released. The band broke up in 1997, eventually reuniting in 2010.

Four years after the breakup, Cornell joined the remains of Rage Against the Machine, which renamed itself Audioslave upon his arrival. With Cornell as both lead singer and primary lyricist, Audioslave performed and recorded as a band until 2007. Cornell also performed as a solo artist throughout his career.

Cornell died suddenly while on tour with Soundgarden; no cause of death was stated. He had a history of drug and alcohol abuse.

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« Reply #753 on: May 18, 2017, 07:54:29 am »
Cornell was probably the best of the singers to come out of the grunge era. Last I knew he was clean saying he had found salvation in God and his little girl.


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« Reply #754 on: May 18, 2017, 08:08:49 am »
A shame.  So young.  It's possible that Cornell was clean and sober, but he was at a prime age for heart disease.  Even if he had been off drugs for years, the damage to his heart might already have been done.  Anyway, I guess we won't know until after the autopsy. 

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« Reply #756 on: May 18, 2017, 08:35:08 am »
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I imagine all the excitement of the past year got bit much for his ticker.
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« Reply #757 on: May 18, 2017, 09:05:43 am »
I imagine all the excitement of the past year got bit much for his ticker.

He has a son that IIRC is 12 or 13...maybe a little older.  He must be really hurting right now.
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« Reply #758 on: May 18, 2017, 09:23:11 am »
He has a son that IIRC is 12 or 13...maybe a little older.  He must be really hurting right now.
Yep, prayers for the family, especially the kid.
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« Reply #759 on: May 18, 2017, 09:38:40 am »
A shame.  So young.  It's possible that Cornell was clean and sober, but he was at a prime age for heart disease.  Even if he had been off drugs for years, the damage to his heart might already have been done.  Anyway, I guess we won't know until after the autopsy. 

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I've heard suicide is suspected. I hope not.

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« Reply #760 on: May 18, 2017, 09:46:54 am »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-dies-at-age-52-in-detroit/ar-BBBgiXT?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Detroit police spokesman Michael Woody told AP Thursday morning that he couldn’t release details about why police are investigating the death as a possible suicide, but noted there were “basic things observed at the scene.”

Cornell died at the MGM Grand Detroit hotel, Woody said. He said Cornell’s wife had called a family friend and asked him to check on Cornell; the friend forced open a hotel room door and found Cornell on the bathroom floor.


Sounds like suicide. The fact that his wife asked someone to check on him suggests that suicide was an ongoing concern.

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« Reply #762 on: May 18, 2017, 01:55:50 pm »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-dies-at-age-52-in-detroit/ar-BBBgiXT?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Detroit police spokesman Michael Woody told AP Thursday morning that he couldn’t release details about why police are investigating the death as a possible suicide, but noted there were “basic things observed at the scene.”

Cornell died at the MGM Grand Detroit hotel, Woody said. He said Cornell’s wife had called a family friend and asked him to check on Cornell; the friend forced open a hotel room door and found Cornell on the bathroom floor.


Sounds like suicide. The fact that his wife asked someone to check on him suggests that suicide was an ongoing concern.

I'm getting news alerts now that it was ruled a suicide. Not familiar with this band, but I wish him peace.

http://news.sky.com/story/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-killed-himself-10883262
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« Reply #763 on: May 18, 2017, 01:59:43 pm »
I'm getting news alerts now that it was ruled a suicide. Not familiar with this band, but I wish him peace.

http://news.sky.com/story/soundgarden-singer-chris-cornell-killed-himself-10883262

Cornell was one of those guys who had actual talent.

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« Reply #764 on: May 18, 2017, 03:07:43 pm »
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« Reply #765 on: May 18, 2017, 03:17:23 pm »
The Latest: Autopsy: Cornell Killed Himself by Hanging

https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2017-05-18/the-latest-police-chris-cornells-death-a-possible-suicide

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« Reply #766 on: May 18, 2017, 03:22:31 pm »
I did love Cornell's singing. He could really belt it out.
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« Reply #767 on: May 18, 2017, 04:02:29 pm »
Its unfortunate but a lot of the greatest artistic talent seems to spring forth from emotional pain.

Its why I'm glad I chose photography as my artistic outlet. Its about what is visible rather than hidden.

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« Reply #768 on: May 18, 2017, 04:15:12 pm »
This is a beautiful and true statement. Lovely stated.

It sure is, and @Cripplecreek's work is most excellent.  I consider myself fortunate because I have no artistic talent whatsoever, so I'm blissfully unaware of what it's like.   :shrug:
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« Reply #769 on: May 18, 2017, 04:23:29 pm »
It sure is, and @Cripplecreek's work is most excellent.  I consider myself fortunate because I have no artistic talent whatsoever, so I'm blissfully unaware of what it's like.   :shrug:

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« Reply #770 on: May 18, 2017, 04:34:41 pm »
Churchill's "black dog" can be considered a gift or a curse. It truly does make you see the world differently, more creatively but the downside can destroy you. Modern meds can even everything out but they rob your personality. It's a double edged sword.
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« Reply #771 on: May 18, 2017, 07:43:54 pm »
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« Reply #772 on: May 18, 2017, 07:45:11 pm »
Someone kills the pain.
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« Reply #773 on: May 18, 2017, 07:51:10 pm »
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« Reply #774 on: May 18, 2017, 09:41:57 pm »
Even though it's pure commie screed, love Cornell's soaring backup vocals to Vedder's lead in this song:


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« Reply #775 on: May 18, 2017, 10:38:46 pm »
Even though it's pure commie screed, love Cornell's soaring backup vocals to Vedder's lead in this song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmWJ_nGzSME

I like that song.
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« Reply #776 on: May 19, 2017, 03:22:14 pm »
Chris Cornell's final song.

In My Time Of Dying


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« Reply #777 on: May 19, 2017, 03:30:29 pm »


In My Time Of Dying



Wow, thats the 3rd version of that song I've seen, and I don't think I have ever head one tune done so differently by three diff. acts (Add Dylan and Zep)
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« Reply #778 on: May 19, 2017, 03:37:33 pm »
Wow, thats the 3rd version of that song I've seen, and I don't think I have ever head one tune done so differently by three diff. acts (Add Dylan and Zep)

Cornell had obviously already made his decision.

In my time of dying, want nobody to mourn
All I want for you to do is take my body home

Well, well, well, so I can die easy
Well, well, well, so I can die easy

Jesus, gonna make up/out siviers
Jesus, gonna make up my dyin' bed
Meet me, Jesus, meet me
Oh meet me in the middle of the air
If my wings should fail me, Lord
Oh please meet me with another pair

Well, well, well, so I can die easy
Well, well, well, so I can die easy

Jesus, gonna make up
Somebody, somebody
Oh, oh Jesus gonna make up
Jesus gonna make you my dyin' bed

Oh, Saint Peter, at the gates of heaven
Won't you let me in
I never did no harm
I never did no wrong

Oh, Gabriel, let me blow your horn
Let me blow your horn
Oh, I never did, did no harm

I've only been this young once
I never thought I'd do anybody no wrong
No, not once

Oh, I did somebody some good
Somebody some good yeah
Oh, did somebody some good yeah
I must have did somebody some good yeah
Oh I believe I did

I see the smiling faces
I know I must have left some traces

And I see them in the streets
And I see them in the field
And I hear them shouting under my feet
And I know it's got to be real
Oh, Lord, deliver me
All the wrong I've done
You can deliver me, Lord
I only wanted to have some fun

Hear the angels marchin'
Hear the' marchin', hear them marchin'
Hear them marchin', the' marchin'

(Oh my Jesus)
It's got to be my Jesus
Oh, it's got to be, it's got to be my Jesus
it's got to be my oh
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Oh take me home
Come on, come on I can hear the answer, sing it
Oh, here they come
Here they come
Here they come
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Bye-bye
Bye-bye
Bye-bye
Bye-bye
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Oh, I see him
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« Reply #779 on: May 19, 2017, 03:59:57 pm »
That's a common effect the Psychs have noted about suicidal people.  They always have a marked change in their disposition before they do it, and it's usually seen by others around them as a very positive change.  They've made the decision, and as a result they become more positive in their general outlook on life.

It's a paradox.

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« Reply #780 on: May 19, 2017, 04:11:30 pm »
That's a common effect the Psychs have noted about suicidal people.  They always have a marked change in their disposition before they do it, and it's usually seen by others around them as a very positive change.  They've made the decision, and as a result they become more positive in their general outlook on life.

It's a paradox.

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They also tend to do it when the anti-depressants kick in because they begin to feel good enough to do something at that point.  If they can ride it out a little longer, they can get beyond the "too depressed to live, but feel good enough to kill myself" point.

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« Reply #781 on: May 19, 2017, 04:39:35 pm »
That's a common effect the Psychs have noted about suicidal people.  They always have a marked change in their disposition before they do it, and it's usually seen by others around them as a very positive change.  They've made the decision, and as a result they become more positive in their general outlook on life.

It's a paradox.
I think it may have something to do with regaining control.

To get to suicide, things usually must progress to the point of hopelessness. The idea of killing oneself, bringing an end to everything by one's own hand, is empowering if one believes that life on the whole is more bad than good. It brings this perverse sense of hope, that nonexistence is more pleasant than the current.

As the song goes:

"But suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please"
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« Reply #782 on: May 19, 2017, 05:22:37 pm »
They also tend to do it when the anti-depressants kick in because they begin to feel good enough to do something at that point.  If they can ride it out a little longer, they can get beyond the "too depressed to live, but feel good enough to kill myself" point.


No the anti depressants give them the slight energy boost to make the desire real. Then the anti depressants ruin your personality. Or you go through one bought of depression and when he next one comes you can't go through it again, like Virginia Woolf, etc.

The only thing worse than anti depressants is ECT, IMHO. Ask Ernest Hemingway what he thought of that. Or Godel. I can keep going but I'm crying too hard now.

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« Reply #783 on: May 19, 2017, 05:30:04 pm »

No the anti depressants give them the slight energy boost to make the desire real. Then the anti depressants ruin your personality. Or you go through one bought of depression and when he next one comes you can't go through it again, like Virginia Woolf, etc.

The only thing worse than anti depressants is ECT, IMHO. Ask Ernest Hemingway what he thought of that. Or Godel. I can keep going but I'm crying too hard now.

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« Reply #784 on: May 19, 2017, 05:33:16 pm »
I think it may have something to do with regaining control.

To get to suicide, things usually must progress to the point of hopelessness. The idea of killing oneself, bringing an end to everything by one's own hand, is empowering if one believes that life on the whole is more bad than good. It brings this perverse sense of hope, that nonexistence is more pleasant than the current.

As the song goes:

"But suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please"

Ironically, the theme song from M.A.S.H........
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« Reply #785 on: May 19, 2017, 05:33:27 pm »

No the anti depressants give them the slight energy boost to make the desire real. Then the anti depressants ruin your personality. Or you go through one bought of depression and when he next one comes you can't go through it again, like Virginia Woolf, etc.

The only thing worse than anti depressants is ECT, IMHO. Ask Ernest Hemingway what he thought of that. Or Godel. I can keep going but I'm crying too hard now.

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« Reply #786 on: May 19, 2017, 05:39:17 pm »
Back in the 90s, I tool Prozac for a very brief period.  Lifted my mood,  but it also made me drowsy.  Falling asleep at the office was not an option.  I stopped. 

These days, pharmaceutical companies advertise heavily on tv.  Seems that nearly every anti-depressant can give you suicidal thoughts or actions.  So what good are these drugs?

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« Reply #787 on: May 19, 2017, 05:44:18 pm »
They still do Electroshock Therapy?  Sick.  And people bitch about waterboarding.

yes, though it's slightly changed since Ken Kesey wrote about it in the 50s. Bones don't break anymore, but they strap you down good and tight to make sure it doesn't happen and they put something in your mouth so you don't bite off your tongue.

You still loose your long and short term memory. If you are lucky it will come back in a year or so. If you are out of luck it doesn't come back plus your IQ goes down twenty to thirty points. Hopefullly you were a member of Mensa so that doesn't present too much of a problem,

If not you want to pet the rabbits, George. Not in the happy way.

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« Reply #788 on: May 19, 2017, 05:52:21 pm »
yes, though it's slightly changed since Ken Kesey wrote about it in the 50s. Bones don't break anymore, but they strap you down good and tight to make sure it doesn't happen and they put something in your mouth so you don't bite off your tongue.

You still loose your long and short term memory. If you are lucky it will come back in a year or so. If you are out of luck it doesn't come back plus your IQ goes down twenty to thirty points. Hopefullly you were a member of Mensa so that doesn't present too much of a problem,

If not you want to pet the rabbits, George. Not in the happy way.

Electroshock therapy is one of the most effective and quick treatments for severe depression.  Patients are given general anesthesia and paralytic agents to stop the muscle activity and soreness.  As done today it is a highly effective treatment for severe refractory depression and can save lives
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« Reply #789 on: May 19, 2017, 06:01:59 pm »
I love you @Mom MD and I respect you and admire you,but I humbly will disagree with you on this one topic and ask we can still be friends here.

I've never seen it work for anyone. If it has worked for someone, hurray. I. Believe Carrie Fisher said it helped her.

It's just I've never seen it work for anyone. 

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« Reply #790 on: May 19, 2017, 06:10:47 pm »
I love you @Mom MD and I respect you and admire you,but I humbly will disagree with you on this one topic and ask we can still be friends here.

I've never seen it work for anyone. If it has worked for someone, hurray. I. Believe Carrie Fisher said it helped her.

It's just I've never seen it work for anyone. 

I hope you still like me.

@Freya of course I like you!!!   Disagreement does not mean we do not like each other!!!
Besides you are a crazy cat lady just like me (I currently have 4)

I replied just because shock therapy has an understandably bad rap.  But done in current conditions and on a very select group of patients it can be lifesaving.  You have a sweet spirit and I will always consider you friend
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« Reply #791 on: May 19, 2017, 06:14:39 pm »
@Freya of course I like you!!!   Disagreement does not mean we do not like each other!!!
Besides you are a crazy cat lady just like me (I currently have 4)

I replied just because shock therapy has an understandably bad rap.  But done in current conditions and on a very select group of patients it can be lifesaving.  You have a sweet spirit and I will always consider you friend
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« Reply #792 on: May 19, 2017, 06:19:18 pm »
Piker.   :tongue2:

Right back atcha  I also have a 4 year old daughter and my grown daughters German shepherd and cat staying with me...

Watch who u r calling piker there youngster  :nono:
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« Reply #793 on: May 19, 2017, 06:47:26 pm »
They also tend to do it when the anti-depressants kick in because they begin to feel good enough to do something at that point.  If they can ride it out a little longer, they can get beyond the "too depressed to live, but feel good enough to kill myself" point.

This sucks. I liked his work. My wife told me today they think it may have been related to a medication he was taking.
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« Reply #794 on: May 19, 2017, 06:48:25 pm »
Electroshock therapy is one of the most effective and quick treatments for severe depression.  Patients are given general anesthesia and paralytic agents to stop the muscle activity and soreness.  As done today it is a highly effective treatment for severe refractory depression and can save lives

If it kills the brain, then no.
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« Reply #795 on: May 19, 2017, 06:53:28 pm »
If it kills the brain, then no.

It doesn't kill the brain   It induces a seizure and like any other seizure it can take up to 24 hours for mental status to return to normal.   This is not for everyone but in the most refractory cases it can provide relief where little else has worked
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« Reply #796 on: May 19, 2017, 07:08:11 pm »

You still loose your long and short term memory. If you are lucky it will come back in a year or so. If you are out of luck it doesn't come back plus your IQ goes down twenty to thirty points. Hopefullly you were a member of Mensa so that doesn't present too much of a problem,


@Freya

The "good" (?) news is it is always the very bright people that have the breakdowns. Information overload on people with VERY active minds,but  who are so lacking in emotional self-confidence they just can't handle reality. The sensitive types that have been raised or conditioned to feel guilty because they are smarter and have more than others.  Guilt is a major killer for people with a conscience.

People who have been raised to be grateful for the gifts they were born with never have these problems. They understand they have nothing to feel guilty about because even though they were born intellectually gifted they had to work hard to maximize it and because of their "birth gift" and their hard work,they have made the world a better place for those less-gifted as well as for themselves by providing jobs,medical advancements,technological advancements,fairer governments,advancing philosophies,etc,etc,etc.

After all,it's only the people with good minds that have  minds to lose.

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« Reply #797 on: May 19, 2017, 07:25:39 pm »
Right back atcha  I also have a 4 year old daughter and my grown daughters German shepherd and cat staying with me...

Watch who u r calling piker there youngster  :nono:

"Youngster?"  I have a 4-year-old grandson, so I will simply have to tell your that I love you, madly.   :smokin:
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #798 on: May 19, 2017, 07:48:37 pm »
@Freya

The "good" (?) news is it is always the very bright people that have the breakdowns. Information overload on people with VERY active minds,but  who are so lacking in emotional self-confidence they just can't handle reality. The sensitive types that have been raised or conditioned to feel guilty because they are smarter and have more than others.  Guilt is a major killer for people with a conscience.

People who have been raised to be grateful for the gifts they were born with never have these problems. They understand they have nothing to feel guilty about because even though they were born intellectually gifted they had to work hard to maximize it and because of their "birth gift" and their hard work,they have made the world a better place for those less-gifted as well as for themselves by providing jobs,medical advancements,technological advancements,fairer governments,advancing philosophies,etc,etc,etc.

After all,it's only the people with good minds that have  minds to lose.

Intelligence really IS  a "gift that keeps on giving"

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« Reply #799 on: May 19, 2017, 08:22:33 pm »
Chris Cornell was my favorite singer.  I've been listening to his music the last two days. He was a poet and wrote very dark lyrics. His wife is saying that he may have taken one or two more Ativan than usual, was slurring his words when they last spoke. He went to rehab in 2003 and was supposedly clean. Why the benzos? They are contraindicated in those who had problems with alcohol. He had three children that he leaves behind.  **nononono*

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