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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #850 on: May 26, 2017, 03:55:16 pm »
Jacque Fresco, Futurist Who Envisioned a Society Without Money, Dies at 101

Jacque Fresco, a self-taught and passionate industrial designer who envisioned an alternative society where money would be eliminated and resources distributed equitably by computers, died on May 18 in Sebring, Fla. He was 101.

His death was confirmed by Roxanne Meadows, his partner, who said he had Parkinson’s syndrome and had recently broken a hip.

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« Reply #851 on: May 26, 2017, 07:06:14 pm »
Give it another 20 years - Fresco may not be too far off the way things are going.
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« Reply #852 on: May 26, 2017, 07:07:36 pm »
Give it another 20 years - Fresco may not be too far off the way things are going.

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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #853 on: May 27, 2017, 12:35:15 am »
Zbigniew Brzezinski dies at 89



Born in Poland, Brzezisnki moved to Canada as a child, then came to the United States when he attended Harvard University. A Soviet Union expert and sympathizer, Brzezinski rose in influence in the 1950s and found his way onto President Lyndon Johnson's staff, as well as the campaign of Hubert Humphrey in 1968.

He quickly built an alliance with Jimmy Carter in 1975, then became Carter's national security advisor when Carter won the Presidency. Eventually he soured on Soviet rule and backed dissident groups in Eastern Europe. In perhaps one of his greatest blunders, Brzezinski indirectly backed the mujaheddin in resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which formed the basis of the modern Islamic terrorist movement. He also unsuccessfully backed the Shah of Iran before his government was toppled in the Iranian revolution, was a founding member of the Trilateral Commission, and re-established relations with Red China.

Brzezinski was also the father to current MSNBC morning host Mika Brzezinski.

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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #854 on: May 27, 2017, 11:30:11 pm »
Gregg Allman, Influential Force Behind the Allman Brothers Band, Dies at 69

Gregg Allman, a founding member of the Allman Brothers Band, the incendiary group that inspired and gave shape to both the Southern rock and jam-band movements, died on Saturday at his home in Savannah, Ga. He was 69.

His death was announced in a statement on Mr. Allman’s official website. No cause was given, but the statement said he had “struggled with many health issues over the past several years.”

The band’s lead singer and keyboardist, Mr. Allman was one of the principal architects of a taut, improvisatory fusion of blues, jazz, country and rock that — streamlined by inheritors like Lynyrd Skynyrd and the Marshall Tucker Band — became the Southern rock of the 1970s.

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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #855 on: May 28, 2017, 12:11:04 am »
RIP Gregg Allman.  Midnight Rider and Whipping Post are faves.

I am still so very sad about Chris Cornell. His funeral was yesterday.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #856 on: May 28, 2017, 12:43:08 am »
RIP Gregg Allman

Been bummed about this all day. Thanks for the music.
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« Reply #857 on: May 28, 2017, 12:51:48 am »
RIP Gregg Allman.  Midnight Rider and Whipping Post are faves.

I am still so very sad about Chris Cornell. His funeral was yesterday.

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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #858 on: May 28, 2017, 01:06:46 am »
One of my earliest music memories was listening to the Allman Brothers on Dad's Kanazawa. Such a tight band and spectacular music. One of the best live acts ever. Always respected their knack for their ability to take southern and blue collar and put it together just right. My two favorites from Live at the Fillmore East:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr1dPUoLqMM


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« Reply #859 on: May 28, 2017, 01:36:58 am »
Bummer. Thanks for the Music, and RIP.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #860 on: May 28, 2017, 01:48:37 am »
RIP the only man in baseball history to pitch a perfect game on Father's Day and become a Congressman and Senator
after his playing days . . .

Jim Bunning, Hall of Fame pitcher and former U.S. Senator, dead at 85

Bunning nailing the final out of that 1964 perfecto---while his wife and oldest daughter were in the stands:



His wife and daughter decided to drive up to New York to surprise Dad for Father's Day.

Of course, the 1964 World’s Fair was right across the street, and I really think they came up for that.---Jim Bunning, remembering the game.

It made Bunning the first pitcher to throw no-hitters in each league and catcher Gus Triandos the first catcher to
catch no-hitters in each league. It was also the first perfect game thrown in the National League in the 20th
Century.

It also put Tracy Stallard, the Mets' starting pitcher, on the wrong side of history for the second time: he'd been
the Red Sox pitcher who served up Roger Maris's 61st home run in 1961.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #861 on: May 28, 2017, 10:18:01 am »
RIP Gregg Allman.  Midnight Rider and Whipping Post are faves.
Two of my favorites, as well. Great band.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #862 on: May 28, 2017, 11:55:21 am »
Two greats in their respective fields. 

Rest in peace, Gregg Allman and Jim Bunning.

My favorite from Gregg Allman:



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« Reply #863 on: May 28, 2017, 11:57:06 am »
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Thanks for the tunes!
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #864 on: May 28, 2017, 11:59:52 am »
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They were great and I will continue to play their music.
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« Reply #865 on: May 28, 2017, 12:39:19 pm »


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

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« Reply #866 on: May 28, 2017, 05:57:24 pm »
RIP Gregg. I loved the Allman Brothers. I had to go in for a heart procedure not long ago that required light anesthetic. I asked that they keep it really light so I could watch on the screen (yeah, I know I'm weird.) They were playing the Allmans in the OR. Not my request...just a happy coincidence that made the "experience" pretty darn good.

I hate that the artists that I am familiar with are leaving. I really doubt the newer artists, although some are good, will stand the test of time.   
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« Reply #867 on: May 29, 2017, 05:06:10 pm »
Frank Deford, Giant of Sports Journalism, Dies at 78

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Frank Deford, the charismatic sports writer widely regarded as one of the best of his generation who also presided over the ambitious and short-lived The National, one of the biggest busts in the annals of the newspaper industry, has died. He was 78.

Deford, who began his career at Sports Illustrated in 1962 and remained with the magazine for decades, died Sunday in Key West, Fla., his wife told The Washington Post.

A prolific and widely admired novelist as well, Deford wrote the 1981 book Everybody's All-American, about the downfall of a 1950s University of North Carolina star. It was made into the 1988 film directed by Taylor Hackford that starred Dennis Quaid and Jessica Lange.

Deford's passion, knowledge of sports and knack for storytelling led the Baltimore native to opportunities beyond the page. HBO brought him in to serve as a senior correspondent for Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel, and for 37 years through this month, he served as a regular commentator for NPR's Morning Edition. He won an Emmy Award and a Peabody.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #868 on: May 29, 2017, 05:41:34 pm »
Frank Deford, Giant of Sports Journalism, Dies at 78
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I liked Deford's writing and his gutsy bid to make The National work. (I was a regular reader.) Not to mention
the way he remembered his little girl's battle against cystic fibrosis in Alex: The Life of a Child.


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« Reply #869 on: May 29, 2017, 05:49:22 pm »
Kinda liked the Deford guy style of writing.  Nice send up by the hollywood reporter.
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« Reply #870 on: May 29, 2017, 06:23:38 pm »
I used to subscribe to SI a quarter of a century ago and hence read a lot of DeFord's columns. I'm sure DeFord, like most modern sportwriters, was a liberal, but he didn't seem to let it interfere with his sportwriting as much as current sportswriters.  I guess, because I've rarely read anything by him in the last twenty-five years.   He was a little full of himself, but not too obnoxious.
You have to remember that many liberal sportswriters, like DeFord,  slobbered all over Muhammad Ali even after he was spouting black Muslim nonsense including stuff about how interracial couples should be killed.  Ali may have or may not have recanted later in life, but at the time all those hip sportwriters couldn't kiss his a** enough. DeFord might have been one of them.
So when I hear the typical lib sportswriter go off on American society and white racists holding down the oppressed minorities, I remember their love for a black racist  who openly said things that they would have condemned a white guy for saying the same things.
In short, they're all mostly fantastic hypocrites.

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« Reply #871 on: May 29, 2017, 07:14:31 pm »
I used to subscribe to SI a quarter of a century ago and hence read a lot of DeFord's columns. I'm sure DeFord, like most modern sportwriters, was a liberal, but he didn't seem to let it interfere with his sportwriting as much as current sportswriters.  I guess, because I've rarely read anything by him in the last twenty-five years.   He was a little full of himself, but not too obnoxious.
You have to remember that many liberal sportswriters, like DeFord,  slobbered all over Muhammad Ali even after he was spouting black Muslim nonsense including stuff about how interracial couples should be killed.  Ali may have or may not have recanted later in life, but at the time all those hip sportwriters couldn't kiss his a** enough. DeFord might have been one of them.
So when I hear the typical lib sportswriter go off on American society and white racists holding down the oppressed minorities, I remember their love for a black racist  who openly said things that they would have condemned a white guy for saying the same things.
In short, they're all mostly fantastic hypocrites.
Ali actually might have wanted to leave the Black Muslims earlier than he finally did in the 1970s. He stayed
as long as he did no matter than he disagreed with a lot of their sociology because he feared meeting the same
end as Malcolm X. You can read the story in:



As for Frank Deford, this was one of my favourite pieces by him, an August 1983 profile of Howard Cosell:

"I've Won. I've Beat Them"


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« Reply #872 on: May 30, 2017, 10:47:13 am »
Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega dies at 83



An acquaintance of Omar Tarrijos, Noriega was trained in the United States and was a member of the mob that orchestrated a coup of the Panamanian government in 1968, which began Torrijos's 13-year reign over the country. After Torrijos was killed in a plane crash, Noriega emerged as his successor in what was effectively martial law over the country.

It was at this point that Noriega, who had previously been so friendly with the U.S. that he had served on the CIA payroll, turned sharply against the U.S. His reign included mass corruption, drug trafficking, assassinating a political opponent and election rigging (he manipulated vote totals when the President that Torrijos had ousted was likely to win easily had Noriega not interfered). When Noriega was caught rigging a second election in 1989, the U.S. invaded Panama.

In perhaps one of the most humorous and iconic cases of circumventing sanctuary law, Noriega attempted to take refuge in a Catholic nunciature, which, as a de facto embassy of the Vatican, American forces could not enter. In Operation Nifty Package, American troops surrounded the nunciature and blared rock music and other noise at the building, and after ten days the ambassador finally convinced Noriega to surrender.

Noriega was tried and convicted of numerous crimes in the U.S., Panama and France, spending the rest of his life in prison.

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« Reply #874 on: June 01, 2017, 06:21:42 pm »
Elena Verdugo, Emmy-Nominated Actress on 'Marcus Welby, M.D.,' Dies at 92

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Verdugo died Tuesday in Los Angeles, a representative for actress Sharon Gless told The Hollywood Reporter. Early in her career, Gless had a recurring role as hospital worker Kathleen Faverty on Marcus Welby, M.D., and she and Verdugo had been extremely close ever since.
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« Reply #875 on: June 01, 2017, 07:36:20 pm »
Elena Verdugo, Emmy-Nominated Actress on 'Marcus Welby, M.D.,' Dies at 92
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Wow.  92!!

Maybe the greatest name in show biz.  ^-^
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« Reply #876 on: June 01, 2017, 07:39:29 pm »
Wow.  92!!

Maybe the greatest name in show biz.  ^-^
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Among us old-time radio buffs, Elena Verdugo is iconic for playing this title character:

Meet Millie


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« Reply #877 on: June 01, 2017, 07:39:37 pm »
Wow.  92!!

Maybe the greatest name in show biz.  ^-^

Let's be honest. She did work for a couple of Doctors. She had an inside track to the best care. That's why she made it to 92.




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« Reply #878 on: June 02, 2017, 01:50:54 pm »
Sad news: Eminent conductor collapses and dies (Sir Jeffrey Tate)

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« Reply #879 on: June 02, 2017, 02:20:27 pm »
@musiclady

Among us old-time radio buffs, Elena Verdugo is iconic for playing this title character:

Meet Millie

I don't know a whole lot about radio other than Nelson Eddy broadcasts and "The Shadow."

But I DO know that our own @Frank Cannon was the voice of the Lone Ranger.....

Or something like that.  :dx1:
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« Reply #880 on: June 02, 2017, 02:21:16 pm »
Let's be honest. She did work for a couple of Doctors. She had an inside track to the best care. That's why she made it to 92.



Nothing like having Jim Anderson giving you medical advice, right??

I mean he DOES know best.
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« Reply #881 on: June 02, 2017, 06:27:12 pm »
I don't know a whole lot about radio other than Nelson Eddy broadcasts and "The Shadow."

But I DO know that our own @Frank Cannon was the voice of the Lone Ranger.....

Or something like that.  :dx1:
Not even close . . .

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« Reply #882 on: June 02, 2017, 08:47:54 pm »
SiriusXM has Radio Classics and they play Gunsmoke episodes fairly frequently. 

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« Reply #883 on: June 02, 2017, 08:56:48 pm »
SiriusXM has Radio Classics and they play Gunsmoke episodes fairly frequently.
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« Reply #884 on: June 02, 2017, 10:57:36 pm »
Not even close . . .

Gunsmoke
(The radio original leaves the television version eating a tumbleweed's dust!)

I'm that man---Matt Dillon, U.S. Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want
to meet. It's a chancy job, and it makes a man watchful---and a little lonely
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---William Conrad's usual introduction on a Gunsmoke radio show.

Ah....... I knew Conrad was the voice of one of those cowboy hero types.  I always thought it was funny because I couldn't imagine a portly fellow riding a horse.

Conrad also was the narrator for TV's The Fugitive.

Great voice that guy had......
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« Reply #885 on: June 03, 2017, 08:05:12 am »
Wetsuit pioneer Jack O'Neill dies at age 94
By Amy R. Connolly   |   June 3, 2017 at 7:00 AM

Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home. Pictured: Ken Collins rides a wave in the first heat of the Mavericks Invitational surf contest at Half Moon Bay, Calif. on January 24, 2014. South African Grant "Twiggy" Baker won the competition. Photo by Terry Schmitt/UP | License Photo

June 3 (UPI) -- Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing and built a massive surfing enterprise, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home.

O'Neill, noted for his eye patch, opened the possibility of surfing in Central and Northern California's cold waters with neoprene wetsuits after he started experimenting in the 1950s. Surfers at the time had been using sweaters covered in water sealant and other articles of clothing in the frigid waters.

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Wetsuit pioneer Jack O'Neill dies at age 94
By Amy R. Connolly   |   June 3, 2017 at 7:00 AM

Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home. Pictured: Ken Collins rides a wave in the first heat of the Mavericks Invitational surf contest at Half Moon Bay, Calif. on January 24, 2014. South African Grant "Twiggy" Baker won the competition. Photo by Terry Schmitt/UP | License Photo

June 3 (UPI) -- Jack O'Neill, who pioneered a wetsuit that helped popularize cold-water surfing and built a massive surfing enterprise, died at age 94 of natural causes at his California home.

O'Neill, noted for his eye patch, opened the possibility of surfing in Central and Northern California's cold waters with neoprene wetsuits after he started experimenting in the 1950s. Surfers at the time had been using sweaters covered in water sealant and other articles of clothing in the frigid waters.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/06/03/Wetsuit-pioneer-Jack-ONeill-dies-at-age-94/7181496485300/

Inventor of the wetsuit and the board leash.

Used to see him back in the early 80's out on his longboard in front of his place on 38th ave in Soquel. Never said much and was always alone.

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« Reply #887 on: June 03, 2017, 11:52:25 am »
SiriusXM has Radio Classics and they play Gunsmoke episodes fairly frequently.

You have to listen to the old Dragnets. My favorite.

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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #888 on: June 03, 2017, 01:25:27 pm »
You have to listen to the old Dragnets. My favorite.

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The entire radio run of Dragnet is in my collection. The only better crime dramas I ever heard
among my old-time radio collection were The Whistler and Broadway is My Beat.

I also have complete surviving sets of:

The Jack Benny Program
Fred Allen (almost two hundred of his shows have survived, including the classics Town Hall Tonight
and Texaco Star Theater)
Fibber McGee & Molly
Our Miss Brooks
The CBS Radio Workshop
Easy Aces (about three hundred of this classic serial comedy---the episodes Goodman Ace once shrewdly
sold to Frederick Ziv, who syndicated them so successfully the Aces made more money on that than they did
when they actually did the show live from 1930-43)
Vic & Sade
Burns & Allen
Lux Radio Theater
CBS World News Today (a treasure chest of World War II reporting)
Suspense
Quiet, Please
The Old Gold Comedy Theater (ran one season, hosted by silent screen legend Harold Lloyd)
Fort Laramie (not to be confused with the later television western Laramie; ran one season
and starred a pre-Perry Mason Raymond Burr)
The Six Shooter (ran one season but was probably the second most intelligent radio Western
of all---and starred James Stewart in the title role)
The Green Hornet
The Great Gildersleeve (inventor of the spin-off show, starred Harold Peary taking his Fibber
McGee & Molly
role out of town and as, arguably, broadcasting's first kind-of "bachelor father"
raising his orphaned niece and nephew while running their town's water department)
The Halls of Ivy (Ronald Colman and his wife Benita as a college president and first lady of a sort)
The Henry Morgan Show (Morgan was probably the edgiest radio comedian of them all)
The Bickersons (with and without their parent show Drene Time; the great-grandparents of
such paragons of domestic blitz as The Honeymooners, All in the Family, and Married . . .
with Children
)

. . . among others . . .


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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #889 on: June 03, 2017, 04:51:50 pm »
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 then great-grandparents of
such paragons of domestic blitz as The Honeymooners, All in the Family, and Married . . .
with Children
)

. . . among others . . .

I may be the only one on the planet that thinks this,but The Honeymooners sucked all the air right off the planet. Ralph was a arrogant fool that was a wife abuser and general all-around loser with not ONE redeeming quality,his wife Alice had a whine so severe she deserved Ralph,and WW-2 film reels of Dachau made it appear to be a warm and friendly place compared to Ralph's bare apartment.

Absolutely hated "I Love Lucy",too. Ricky should have strangled that bitch in her sleep. Who the hell would want to live with a woman with the personality of a spoiled 8 year old?

Amos and Andy was hilarious,though. De Kingfish was as pompous as Ralph,but a MUCH nicer guy. It might have happened,but I don't recall ever seeing and hearing any of the main characters on Amos and Andy screaming at each other or promising to kill ("send you to the moon!"),either.

I also have to admit that I just never "got" Gleason in anything else he ever did,either. Red Skelton was hilarious, Groucho Marx (think maybe the Russians lost the draw on who got what sets of "Reds" and "Marxes"?) took it a step or two further than that. Then there was Johnathan Winters who came along slightly later and he was a comedy monster.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #890 on: June 03, 2017, 05:28:58 pm »
I may be the only one on the planet that thinks this,but The Honeymooners sucked all the air right off the planet. Ralph was a arrogant fool that was a wife abuser and general all-around loser with not ONE redeeming quality,his wife Alice had a whine so severe she deserved Ralph,and WW-2 film reels of Dachau made it appear to be a warm and friendly place compared to Ralph's bare apartment.

Absolutely hated "I Love Lucy",too. Ricky should have strangled that bitch in her sleep. Who the hell would want to live with a woman with the personality of a spoiled 8 year old?

Amos and Andy was hilarious,though. De Kingfish was as pompous as Ralph,but a MUCH nicer guy. It might have happened,but I don't recall ever seeing and hearing any of the main characters on Amos and Andy screaming at each other or promising to kill ("send you to the moon!"),either.

I also have to admit that I just never "got" Gleason in anything else he ever did,either. Red Skelton was hilarious, Groucho Marx (think maybe the Russians lost the draw on who got what sets of "Reds" and "Marxes"?) took it a step or two further than that. Then there was Johnathan Winters who came along slightly later and he was a comedy monster.

Ahhhh.  Jonathon Winters.  There were giants in those days.  One of the funniest people to have walked the Earth.  Pat Paulsen.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #891 on: June 03, 2017, 05:39:18 pm »
I also have to admit that I just never "got" Gleason in anything else he ever did,either. Red Skelton was hilarious, Groucho Marx (think maybe the Russians lost the draw on who got what sets of "Reds" and "Marxes"?) took it a step or two further than that. Then there was Johnathan Winters who came along slightly later and he was a comedy monster.
Red Skelton was made for television; hell, his best bits were the silent "Freddie the Freeloader" sketches, just like Jackie Gleason's
best sketches were the silent "Poor Soul" sketches. His radio show, you just knew something was missing---unless you were in the
studio audience, you couldn't see him.

Which is a shame, because I once read (in John Dunning's On the Air: The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio) that tickets for
the Skelton radio show were one of the hottest tickets in Hollywood not because of the radio show itself but because of Skelton's
after-show: he was too nervous to do a warmup before air time, as many radio comedians did (a lot of the warmups from Phil
Harris, before performing The Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show, have survived), so he'd do the show and then be so wired up
the kazoo from it that he kept his studio audience aboard and did an after-show for them. The after-show was considered so
hilarious---with Skelton going into visuals of his characters, as he'd do on television---that people were often turned away for
tickets. There were those who were lucky enough to be there who swore Skelton's after-show was twenty times as funny as the
actual on-air radio show.

Skelton had a wounding flaw: he absolutely couldn't bear to give credit to anyone, even those who created some of his most
memorably characters for him.

Red never gave credit to anyone. Noncredit never bothered me---I've given away credit so people could get
into the Writers Guild. It was not just Skelton's neglect of writers but his attacks on them. On talk shows he would
always say how useless they were. He never understood the philosophy behind a show.
---Sherwood Schwartz,
who wrote for Skelton in radio and on television.

It could have been worse, though. It could have been Eddie Cantor, who habitually re-wrote scripts to give himself
the biggest laugh-getters---even if they weren't suited for his character (and were liable to bomb on the air as a
result), and who refused to listen when his writers tried to tell him that his long-running gags about his five
unmarriageable daughters were deeply hurt by the gags, which went on long after the ladies did marry. (Not
to mention his long-running on-air devotion to wife Ida---all the while he was having a long-term affair with
comedienne Joan Davis.)
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« Reply #892 on: June 03, 2017, 06:42:58 pm »
Ahhhh.  Jonathon Winters.  There were giants in those days.  One of the funniest people to have walked the Earth.  Pat Paulsen.

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« Reply #894 on: June 03, 2017, 06:57:22 pm »
There are giants these days.
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Re: Obituaries for 2017
« Reply #895 on: June 04, 2017, 02:25:29 am »
Nobody could break a scene like Tim Conway.


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Ahhh,the Carol Burnette Show. Clearly one of the funniest comedies to ever exist anywhere. Maybe even THE best. Great writers and great comedians with perfect timing.

And that elephant scene has probably caused more people to wet their pants than anything shown on tv.  I laughed so hard I lost my breath for a instant.

Which reminds me of the last time I lost my breath laughing. Some DJ was playing a skit by Larry the Cable Guy on the radio,and I really wasn't paying that much attention. It was kinda "Background noise to drive to". Anyhow,it involved him taking his grandmother to Bass Sports to buy some sort of forgotten sporting gear. His granny is kind of eccentric,and insisted on wearing her nightgown to the shop. Like I said I wasn't paying that much attention to the set up,but when Larry got to the punch line and said  it was so hot in the place that his granny was arrested for suspicion of shoplifting Deer Lure,I lost my breath and control of my truck. That was totally unexpected. For those of you who don't know,deer lure is made from the urine of female deer in heat,and it is NOT perfume. Generally speaking,smelling it would gag a skunk.

It took me a long time to get it together enough to get back on the road,and even then I had to pull over for a few mintues to catch my breath again because I would get to remembering it and lose control again.

I tried to tell a couple of friends of mine about it a couple of days later,and still couldn't get it out after a half-dozen or more tries. I'm get started and lose all control again due to laughter. Since I have COPD,losing my breath is not a good thing.

I'm a big fan of Ron White,too. First time I ever heard of him was when a friend of mine called me long distance to tell me somebody had stolen my sense of humor and material.
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« Reply #896 on: June 04, 2017, 02:49:30 am »
Deer lure? That's funny, right there, I don't care who you are...
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« Reply #897 on: June 04, 2017, 08:57:49 am »
We're huge Ron White fans, too.
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« Reply #898 on: June 04, 2017, 09:44:10 am »
Nobody could break a scene like Tim Conway.
Tim Conway was always hysterical: a true master of timing, physical comedy, and improvisation. Along with Harvey Korman and Carol Burnett, their work together was truly legendary, and clearly still funny today; it is not dated in the least.

Those of us who were lucky enough to grow up during those days did not suffer from having only four or five TV channels (on a good day), because we got to see the likes of Jonathan Winters, Red Skelton, Jackie Mason, Bob Newhart, Don Rickles, Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett.

The majority of today's comedians, stand-up and otherwise, aren't all that funny, in my view. I find them insulting, gross, scatalogical, and often, politically stupid. There are exceptions, Ron White, Dave Attell, and perhaps a small handful of others.
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Tim Conway was always hysterical: a true master of timing, physical comedy, and improvisation. Along with Harvey Korman and Carol Burnett, their work together was truly legendary, and clearly still funny today; it is not dated in the least.

Those of us who were lucky enough to grow up during those days did not suffer from having only four or five TV channels (on a good day), because we got to see the likes of Jonathan Winters, Red Skelton, Jackie Mason, Bob Newhart, Don Rickles, Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks and Buddy Hackett.

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Buddy Hackett,another one of the giants in the comedy field. Somehow or another,a tiny little mischievous 8 year old boy managed to hide in the body of a fat Jewish man. Look closely and you can see that little boy in his eyes when he is talking.

I think Buddy Hackett may have been Johnny Carson's favorite guest comedian. You never knew what Hackett would say,or even if it could get aired without being bleeped,but you damn sure knew it would be hysterical. I can smile just seeing his name in print.
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