Obituaries for 2017

[Restored]

I make you look a little sideways at the whole Harry Potter crowd. That's a target rich environment.

[jmyrlefuller]

It didn't help Erin Moran that "Ritchie" went on to become on of Hollywood's top director's and the Fonz also continued for awhile on the Big Screen. 

I'm sure that didn't help her self-assessment with a half empty bottle of Jack next to her.

I think there's a real possibility that it might have just been a mental disorder, possibly made worse by menopause, and again if she was resorting to illicit drugs it would have obviously made it even worse.

[truth_seeker]

Thank you for the link.  I did hear about Paul Petersen's support and advocacy group for former child actors, and I understand the group does good work. It's just too bad they couldn't save Erin Moran.  But all the resources and support in the world can't save a person if he or she doesn't want to be saved.

The grip of addiction is very powerful. Many times an addict will profess they want help, but will nonetheless fail over and over to follow through when help is given.

Recovery resources are bountiful. They have been made to be highly profitable, by Obamacare.

But the olde fashioned way might work best, because it is NOT sugar coated.

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/adult-rehabilitation

But if your loved one insists on only the Cadillac treatment, get your Obamacare substance treatment here

http://obamacarefacts.com/questions/does-obamacare-cover-drug-and-alcohol-treatment/

[mystery-ak]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

[Wingnut]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

Well, that certainly would explain a few things.

[musiclady]

Well, that certainly would explain a few things.

Certainly does, doesn't it? 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Happy Days Star Erin Moran Died of Stage 4 Cancer, Authorities Reveal
People, Apr 24, 2017

According to a statement released by the Harrison County Coroner’s office on Monday obtained by WDRB News, a subsequent autopsy revealed that Moran “likely succumbed to complications of stage 4 cancer.”

“On Saturday the 22nd day of April, 2017, Erin Marie Moran-Fleischmann passed away at her residence located in New Salisbury Indiana. A joint investigation into Mrs. Moran’s death was conducted by the Harrison County Sheriff’s Department and the Harrison County Coroner’s Office,” reads the statement. “A subsequent autopsy revealed that Mrs. Moran likely succumbed to complications of stage 4 cancer.”

“Standard toxicology tests were performed and the results are pending however no illegal narcotics were found at the residence,” adds the statement.

http://people.com/tv/happy-days-star-erin-moran-died-stage-4-cancer/

[jmyrlefuller]

Well, that certainly would explain a few things.

Indeed. Still tragic, but thankfully for everyone no fault was at play. (And yes, I was wrong about the heroin part.)

[libertybele]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

Very sad ... perhaps she didn't have the money to get treatment??

[Cyber Liberty]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/24/erin-morans-final-days-fellow-former-child-stars-were-trying-to-help.html
Erin Moran 'likely died' of complications of stage 4 cancer, autopsy reveals

The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

[Millee]

She probably couldn't afford OcommieCare. 

RIP, Erin.

[truth_seeker]

The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

The discussion about opioids and abuse thereof, arose from the suggestion she was a druggie, and overdosed.

There are people with legitimate pain, which modern medicine treats with medications.

And there are drug addicts and abusers, that give the drugs a bad reputation. 

[EasyAce]

Very sad ... perhaps she didn't have the money to get treatment??

Or, she may have spent what money she did have for it. She and other Happy Days stars reached
a settlement with CBS (which owns Happy Days for syndication and DVD) that paid her and
the others involved a $65,000 lump sum and forced CBS to honour merchandising royalties to them,
which probably helped her huge financially but you can expect the cancer drained even those
resources.

[Cyber Liberty]

The discussion about opioids and abuse thereof, arose from the suggestion she was a druggie, and overdosed.

There are people with legitimate pain, which modern medicine treats with medications.

And there are drug addicts and abusers, that give the drugs a bad reputation.

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Sad that she was slandered as a druggie, when it was cancer. Way to piss on someone's grave.

[EasyAce]

The discussion about opioids and abuse thereof, arose from the suggestion she was a druggie, and overdosed.

There are people with legitimate pain, which modern medicine treats with medications.

And there are drug addicts and abusers, that give the drugs a bad reputation.

It's also wise to observe that merely because many if not most druggies would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs, it
doesn't follow that many if not most who would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs are druggies.

[Cripplecreek]

Sad that she was slandered as a druggie, when it was cancer. Way to piss on someone's grave.

Yeah I saw that as well.

She did have a history of drug issues but there was no indication that her death had anything to do with them.

[Restored]

"likely died of complications" is awfully vague. I guess the point is that she is dead.

[sneakypete]

Thank you for the link.  I did hear about Paul Petersen's support and advocacy group for former child actors, and I understand the group does good work. It's just too bad they couldn't save Erin Moran.  But all the resources and support in the world can't save a person if he or she doesn't want to be saved.

@Applewood

All the saving in the world isn't going to help anybody with Stage 4 cancer.

[sneakypete]

It didn't help Erin Moran that "Ritchie" went on to become on of Hollywood's top director's and the Fonz also continued for awhile on the Big Screen. 

I'm sure that didn't help her self-assessment with a half empty bottle of Jack next to her.

@DCPatriot

You may be right,but I have never understood how or why anyone would establish their own sense of self-worth based on the accomplishments or successes of others.

I never really gave a damn what others were saying,thinking,or doing,unless they were saying,doing,and thinking it about me in  a way that might cause me harm.

I am my own person with my life to live,and so is everyone else. I would rather focus on what *I* want to accomplish than waste any of my time being jealous or resentful of what others do.

If you do good in life,"Good for you!". If you don't do well according to your own dreams and standards and this makes you unhappy,you have my sympathy.

Meanwhile,I have my own train to run.

[sneakypete]

Very sad ... perhaps she didn't have the money to get treatment??

@libertybele

All the money in the world is of no help when you have Stage 4 cancer.

[sneakypete]

The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

@Cyber Liberty 

[sneakypete]

It's also wise to observe that merely because many if not most druggies would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs, it
doesn't follow that many if not most who would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs are druggies.

@EasyAce

Some people,like me,are just "live and let live" types. I may not personally approve of what someone else does,but as long as they aren't doing it to me it's really none of my damn business.

[Restored]

The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

Note, it doesn't say how she died so an overdose is possible. It sure beats dying of Stage 4 Cancer in my book and could be justified.

[Mod2]

Separate Erin Moran thread merged into this one.

[Bigun]

It's also wise to observe that merely because many if not most druggies would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs, it
doesn't follow that many if not most who would like an end to the ridiculous War on Drugs are druggies.

I'm no druggie and have never been for the iodic "War" on drugs!  Fought many verbal battle over it in fact.

[EasyAce]

I'm no druggie and have never been for the iodic "War" on drugs!  Fought many verbal battle over it in fact.

Likewise. Even if I've smoked marijuana exactly twice in my life. To some among the idiot brigades
smoking it twice in sixtysomething years makes you a hardcore druggie.

[jmyrlefuller]

The memory of Erin is owed an apology by all the drug warriors on this thread who accused her, and everybody else who treats pain with Opiods, an apology. 

I don't expect one, either.

As the one who brought it up, I have no qualms saying I am sorry.

[Cyber Liberty]

As the one who brought it up, I have no qualms saying I am sorry.

You've been the most decent about it.  You're OK in my book....

[sneakypete]

As the one who brought it up, I have no qualms saying I am sorry.

@jmyrlefuller 

[bigheadfred]

About the time last late August when I couldn't take the pain any longer I got me some oxycontin. Last resort. Made me groggy and didn't help stop the pain. I got a five day supply and have three days worth left. All that can be yours...if the price is right...

On a lighter note when the meds didn't help I figured I could save them up and then leave. Leaving became the thought for the day. Every day. It wasn't that I was felling sorry for myself. I was pissed off about it.

I want to note that everyone out there wants to feel good. They are going to do that whatever it takes. It doesn't have to be alcohol or drugs.

[Gefn]

I want to note that everyone out there wants to feel good. They are going to do that whatever it takes. It doesn't have to be alcohol or drugs.

It's chocolate!!!!

And personally, I find a teddy bear works too. Or kittens and/or puppies

[Cyber Liberty]

It's chocolate!!!!

And personally, I find a teddy bear works too. Or kittens and/or puppies

[bigheadfred]

Likewise. Even if I've smoked marijuana exactly twice in my life. To some among the idiot brigades
smoking it twice in sixtysomething years makes you a hardcore druggie.

I only smoked pot twice in my life. Once for fifteen years and once for ten.

[EasyAce]

It's chocolate!!!!

[sneakypete]

@EasyAce

I had no idea you are a hater.

Or a communist. Only a communist would hate chocolate.

[EasyAce]

@EasyAce

I had no idea you are a hater.

Or a communist. Only a communist would hate chocolate.

@sneakypete

I'm not a chocolate hater, just a satire lover. And chocolate wasn't the only subject of that line:









And I thought only Communists hated satire. 

[GtHawk]

@EasyAce

I had no idea you are a hater.

Or a communist. Only a communist would hate chocolate.

My best friend in high schools Uncle was found in the hospital after being missing for two days, he had a really bad accident in the early morning hours in South Central L.A. When my friends mother asked him what the hell he was doing there at that hour he responded "If you've never tried the chocolate, don't knock it".

[TomSea]

Back to the more seriousness of this topic,

Robert Pirsig who wrote Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance has passed away at 88 years old. I'm sure many of us have read that book, I have.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/25/robert-pirsig-zen-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance-author-dies-aged-88



That was a very popular book.

Paperbacks really ruled in America once upon a time.

[Restored]

I started college in 1976 as an English major. Zen was one of THE books.

[libertybele]

It's chocolate!!!!

And personally, I find a teddy bear works too. Or kittens and/or puppies

Yesiree!!!  Chocolate, and the darker the better!!!

[Gefn]

I started college in 1976 as an English major. Zen was one of THE books.

I started college in 1980 also as an English major.

Ditto for Zen. I still have a paperback of it in my library.

(I loved being an English major)

[EasyAce]

I started college in 1980 also as an English major.

Ditto for Zen. I still have a paperback of it in my library.

(I loved being an English major)

Mine fell apart finally!
(Fellow English major here . . .)

[Cyber Liberty]

I started college in 1980 also as an English major.

Ditto for Zen. I still have a paperback of it in my library.

(I loved being an English major)

It's also a bang-up book about fixing motorcycles.

[EC]

Fixing anything, really. The mindset is the same, whether you are fixing a bike, a tap, or a person.

Rest in peace.

[mountaineer]

Reportedly posted on Facebook:

Scott Baio
19 hrs ·

Open letter from Steve. (Erin Moran's Husband).

Erin and I met 4/22/1992 and parted ways 4/22/2017. We were planning to go to Thunder Over Louisville to celebrate.
She was feeling fine on our anniversary 11-23-2016. Maybe four or five days after we got back Erin woke up and had about a dime size blood stain on her pillowcase. She said I think i bit my tongue. A couple days go by and there's a bigger spot of blood. We get like 4 days into December, there's more blood. I get a flashlight and say let me look. It was not her tongue it was her tonsil on the left side. I thought it was tonsillitis.

So we went to an ENT who said they wanted to biopsy it. It came back squamous cell carcinoma. She started radiation and chemo. Five days a week radiation and chemo only on Thursdays. We did that the whole time. It got so bad so fast. By the
middle of February, Erin could no longer speak or eat or drink. She had a feeding tube implant and i feed her 6 to 8 times a day. She was still happy, she was active, she texted people on her phone all day. On the 21st she was having trouble breathing. She woke up on the 22nd, she was not 100%.

She needed Kleenex, so i went to the store and came back. She was there watching T.V in bed. I laid down next to her held her right hand in my left. I feel asleep woke up about a hour later still holding her hand and she was gone, she was just gone.. Norton Cancer Institute never said how bad it was.. The coroner told me it was really really bad. It had spread to her spleen, she had alot of fluid in her lungs and part of her brain was infected. The coroner said even if she was in the hospital being pumped full of antibiotics she still would not of made it. He said it was the best that she was with me and went in her sleep. So that's it.

PLEASE feel free to send the above to Any and ALL news outlets The press has been relentless. they knock on the door constantly. Thank you Harrison County Sheriff's I Called last night and they came out ran them off got up this morning
they were all back sheriffs ran them all off again. the last time two cop cars ran off the last ones right before it got dark. we will see what tomorrow brings....  PEACE my friends.

[EasyAce]

Reportedly posted on Facebook:

It's the real deal. And sad considering how fast she went when all was said and done.

[Sanguine]

It's the real deal. And sad considering how fast she went when all was said and done.

I dunno, Ace.  Fast is better when you get to that point.

[EasyAce]

I dunno, Ace.  Fast is better when you get to that point.

If it exploded inside her the way her husband describes, you're right.

[Gefn]

Reportedly posted on Facebook:

Thank you @mountaineer

56 is so young. Rest In Peace Erin.