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Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism
« on: November 22, 2016, 10:37:59 pm »
SOURCE: PANAM NEWS

URL: https://panampost.com/orlando-avendano/2016/11/22/pope-francis-communism/

by:  ORLANDO AVENDAÑO   



In an interview with Pope Francis published November 11 by the Italian newspaper, Repubblica, the supreme authority of the Catholic Church equated Christianity with Communism when asked about his views on Marxist ideology.

“It is the communists, in all cases, that think like Christians. Christ has spoken of a society where the poor, the weak and the excluded are those who make the decisions. Not the demagogues, or the barbarians, but rather the people and the poor that have faith in God or not that we have to help obtain equality and liberty.”

The end of the interview turned to the topic of Donald Trump and the United States. Pope Francis said he was not interested in judging the politician, but more in the “sufferings that his way of acting causes the poor and excluded.”


“What we want is to fight against inequality, the greatest evil that exists in the world,” he said.

The interviewer said the Pope has many adversaries in the Church, to which the Pope said, “I wouldn’t call them adversaries. Faith unifies us all. Naturally, each individual sees things differently; the picture is objectively the same, but subjectively different.”
 

There have been a variety of reactions following the Pope’s comparison between Christianity and the Communist ideology.

The Spanish journalist and writer Hermann Tertsch tweeted that, “The apology for a criminal ideology surprises at the Vatican. Although almost nothing there can surprise now.”

“It’s inconceivable that we attend so frivolous of a criminal ideology with 100 million murdered. From the Vatican,” Tertsch said.

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Re: Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 10:39:33 pm »
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO READ IN SPANISH, HERE IS THE ORIGINAL REPORT FROM ABC SOCIEDAD:

Papa Francisco: Son los comunistas los que piensan como los cristianos

El diario italiano «La Repubblica» ha publicado una breve entrevista al Papa Francisco sobre cuestiones como la pobreza, el comunismo o la emigración.

Para contextualizar las palabras del Papa al periodista italiano Eugenio Scalfari, hay que recordar que en el pasado, en al menos en dos ocasiones la oficina de prensa de Vaticano ha tenido que matizar las «reconstrucciones» que Scalfari publicaba de sus conversaciones con el Papa.

En aquellas ocasiones el prestigioso fundador del diario La Repubblica respondía que para dar cuenta del diálogo no había usado la grabadora, sino sólo sus notas personales.

En este caso, la reconstrucción de la conversación ha sido recogida por el diario vaticano «L'Osservatore Romano». Se trata de un diálogo que mantuvieron horas antes de las elecciones de EEUU.

El Papa, interrogado sobre Donald Trump, habría respondido que «no juzga a los políticos», pero que le interesan «los sufrimientos que su modo de actuar causa a los pobres y a los excluidos».

«Lo que queremos es luchar contra las desigualdades, el mayor mal que existe en el mundo», asegura el Papa. «Las provoca el dinero, que está contra las medidas para equilibrar el bienestar y favorecer la igualdad», explica.

El periodista le hace notar que también el socialismo de Marx y el comunismo querían construir una sociedad caracterizada por la igualdad. «¿Usted también se refiere a una sociedad de tipo marxista?», le pregunta Scalfari. «Si acaso son los comunistas quienes piensan como los cristianos», responde el Papa. «Cristo ha hablado de una sociedad en la que decidan los pobres, los débiles y los excluidos. Para obtener igualdad y libertad debemos ayudar al pueblo, a los pobres con fe en Dios o sin ella, y no a los demagogos o a los barrabás», añade.

Scalfari concluye diciéndole que en su opinión el Papa tiene muchos adversarios en la Iglesia. «No los llamaría adversarios», responde Francisco. «La fe nos unifica a todos. Naturalmente, cada individuo ve las cosas de un modo diferente; el cuadro es objetivamente el mismo, pero subjetivamente diferente», habría concluido.
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Re: Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 10:55:03 pm »
I agree, Hermann.  Nothing this guy says surprises me any more.  **nononono*
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Re: Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 01:57:55 am »
@verga - Tangentially pursuant to our past conversation....

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Re: Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2016, 03:41:05 am »
Pope Francis:
"“What we want is to fight against inequality, the greatest evil that exists in the world,” he said."

Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

Fishrrman to Pope Francis:
"Inequality" has nothing to do with evil, and much to do with reality.
It is the natural order of things, whether a result of Nature or God's will.

It is man's effort to -force- equality upon people that has resulted in much of the "evil" we have seen in the world in modern times.