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To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« on: October 31, 2016, 04:27:46 pm »
You can warble and croon
A Broadway Show tune
You can twirl in a circle
And bark at the moon
You can call darkness light
Or swear wrong is right
You can walk a tight wire
With your hair set on fire
You can curse like the Devil
Or be cool, on the level!
You don't need to explain
If you don't swat a fly
You can gladly refrain
You don't need to say why
There's nothing at stake
If the leaves don't get raked
Forget someone's name?
Nobody will blame!
There's much room for error
It's your cross - you're the bearer
Do what you like
Lightening won't strike
You know what you know
It's still on with the show!
Do what you like
Take a cruise, take a hike
Take a vacation from making good sense
Spit in the eye of Micheal R. Pence
Fall off the wagon and take a long drink
Don't need to care what others will think
Do anything that scratches your itch
But know a vote not to Trump
Is a vote for the Bitch.
Burma Shave.
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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2016, 04:38:35 pm »
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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2016, 05:18:03 pm »
If a vote not for Trump
is a vote for the bitch
you have only yourselves to blame
you dug your own ditch

Ask us not for our help
you are all on your own
we left you and your party
the consequences you've sown.

We warned and we pleaded
our votes it was said, not needed
so go your own way we bid you goodbye
and left you and your party to writhe and die

We really do not care
as this contest is set
liberty we esteem
Trump, the greater threat

For Hildabeast we know
Alinsky she often tugs
but the threats of death
come from Trump's thugs







Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 05:34:47 pm »
Sad that the p-word is blocked but the b-word is not

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2016, 05:39:51 pm »
Funny, I see Democrats claiming someone not voting for Hillary is de facto voting for Trump.

So if I didn't vote for Trump, I'm voting for Hillary.
And if I didn't vote for Hillary, I'm voting for Trump.

So I am the most powerful voter alive, my vote legally counts as two votes. Woo hoo.

Now back to reality. Seeing someone resort to a false dichotomy argument is actually a textbook sign of manipulation and/or propaganda. It usually means they don't have a better case to make so they have to resort to trying to manipulate or threaten.

If someone tries to sell you something using that manipulation technique, that's a good sign to walk away from what they are selling.


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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2016, 05:45:42 pm »
Same old failed logic fallacy of false dichotomy.  There are more than two choices on the ballot.

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2016, 05:50:04 pm »
Wow. One lame insult and one lame poem from Geronl and Invar respectively. Pretty sad boys! 'Care to try again or are you late for the Hillary Clinton rally? 

"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush


Concerning the silly assertion that there are more than two choices. There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.

A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.

There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.

Trump gets a lot of criticism from so many hammer-heads because he is "capricious, unpredictable" - yet these same angry critics insist in the same breath that Trump's actions as president can be predicted with absolute certainty. Help me out - WHICH IS IT???? Is Trump so predictable that his behavior can be foreseen with absolute precision or not !? ! If not, then there is at least some chance that he may do something that cannot be predicted such as make better choices than Hill-O-Lies ?  WHICH IS IT !?!  Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!
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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2016, 05:59:57 pm »
Wow. One lame insult and one lame poem. Pretty sad boys! 'Care to try again or are you late for the Hillary Clinton rally? 

"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush



We have chosen to decide, and we have made a choice, and that is to reject the false dichotomy between Clinton and Trump.  They are the same other than for meaningless details.  The choice between NYC big government liberal 1 and NYC big government liberal 2 is no choice whatsoever.  We reject your falsehood and make our own choices.  If not enough of our fellow voters have the good sense to see as we do, that is regrettable but it is a fact of life in democracies; sometimes your side doesn't win. 

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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2016, 06:00:44 pm »
'Care to try again? 



not enough padded walls on the planet to fix that issue.

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2016, 06:12:28 pm »


"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush




I have made a choice, just not from the two corrupt liberals.

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2016, 06:22:14 pm »

"If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice." Rush

Sayeth the pimp for the lifelong NYC liberal Democrat who supported, funded and publicly praised Hillary's tenures of offices, and supported, funded and campaigned for an overt Communist for NYC mayor less than 3 years ago who this year is running with an 'R' after his name - continuing to war on actual Conservatives because they will not kiss his ring.

There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.

You chose a trojan stalking horse - so you chose to lose - no matter who *wins*.

A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.

And that right there is the imbecillic thinking that got this nation to this point of rejecting liberty for statism, whether Hilary's statist Maoism, or Trump's fascist Nationalist populism - both bastard children of Alinsky and Marx.

There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.

I assert Trump is the greater clear and present danger to my liberties, given his punitive rhetoric and the death threats from his mob of thugs pretending to be patriots.

Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!

We have… throughout this cycle.

Trump does not get our vote.

And it drives you people batshiite crazy and turns you people into fits of incoherent rage as you strive against the wind.

We're not voting for either evil creature you insist is the only choice we have to make.
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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2016, 06:25:36 pm »
If not voting Trump is wrong,
I don't want to be Reich.
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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2016, 06:26:03 pm »

Concerning the silly assertion that there are more than two choices. There are only two choices that can win. I suppose that someone will now try to refute that as well.


Yes, I will refute that. Simply look at our history of elections. Based on our electoral history, there is an 8% chance neither major party candidate reaches the 270 electoral votes and the election then goes to the House to decide. If you then add into this the history of third party or non affiliated candidates coming up and overtaking the existing party structure, those odds (based on electoral history) go up to around 12%.  Yes, it is a stretch, but it also is possible.

A presidential election is not about voting for the "best candidate" unless you are some sort of lame idealist or desperate for an excuse to endorse your fanatical rejection of both candidates.

That's all anyone has really is their 'ideals' (funny how that is now looked at as a negative). If you don't vote your ideals and who you think best represents those ideals, then you are doing nothing more than playing a game. That is the exact reason we are in this Idiocracy-lite situation now. People continuing to reject more and more of their ideals until we are left with the crap sandwich in front of us. I would rather stand on my ideals than accept this joke of a game being thrust upon us. I'll stand for what's right, even if I am standing alone.


There is no way that anyone can possibly convince me or any other normal human being that there is absolutely no decent chance that Trump will be a significantly better president than Hill-O-Lies.

Trump gets a lot of criticism from so many hammer-heads because he is "capricious, unpredictable" - yet these same angry critics insist in the same breath that Trump's actions as president can be predicted with absolute certainty. Help me out - WHICH IS IT???? Is Trump so predictable that his behavior can be foreseen with absolute precision or not !? ! If not, then there is at least some chance that he may do something that cannot be predicted such as make better choices than Hill-O-Lies ?  WHICH IS IT !?!  Pick a position and stay with it for at least one post!

Actually, the criticism of Trump is that he is a liar, BS artist, corrupt cronyist whose entire empire is built on the very things Conservatives should reject; cronyism, bailouts, debt, corruption, rejection of private property rights, etc.. the list can go on for a mile. Nothing in his history supports the rhetoric he is using now. Without evidence, his words are nothing more than expelling CO2.

If you want to bring up who is worse, him or Hillary, I'll submit they are just two sides of the same coin. For every politician being bought for political favors, there is someone doing the buying. The political class isn't just the politicians, it is those who buy them off- something Trump was/is the king at. One example for you, in New York, he started an anti-gambling PAC. Not because he didn't believe in gambling, but because he wanted to use politicians to FORCE New York to not allow competing casinos in to help give him a monopoly for his New Jersey casinos (aka, eliminate competition coming from New York). That is not free market conservatism in the least. That is cronyism bordering on fascism (in the Juan Peron sense).

Trump's predictable behavior, based on his business history, is liberal behavior that does not match his rhetoric. He never put America first in his own businesses. He constantly relied on bail outs. He constantly grew regulations (such as the example above) and destroyed private property.

That makes him not even slightly reasonable to most of us and just the flip side of what makes Hillary corrupt.


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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2016, 06:29:08 pm »
If someone puts the option in front of you that they will shoot your right arm or left arm, and then try to make the case shooting your left arm is better because it isn't your dominant arm, there is zero reason you should accept the choice in the first place. That is someone you fight against, not someone you negotiate with.

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2016, 06:34:12 pm »
Hey silly.  I'm not voting for Hillary and I'm not voting for Trump.

If you idiots hadn't foisted a corrupt liberal on us to run against a corrupt liberal, we wouldn't be in this mess.

YOU did this to us.  YOU take responsibility for your part in the destruction of America.

All the dopey poems in the world don't change the truth.

NONE of us is voting for Hillary.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2016, 06:41:29 pm »
But know a vote not to Trump
Is a vote for the Bitch.
This was obviously said by someone who does not understand the electoral process at all.


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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2016, 07:28:00 pm »
I have made a choice, just not from the two corrupt liberals.

So what percentage of possibility do you assign to being wrong. If you claim that there is zero chance, then I must conclude that you do indeed believe that you can foretell the future, since that would be the only way there could be zero chance.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2016, 07:31:51 pm »
So what percentage of possibility do you assign to being wrong. If you claim that there is zero chance, then I must conclude that you do indeed believe that you can foretell the future, since that would be the only way there could be zero chance.

I would say 80/20 actually, not by foretelling the future, but by analyzing the past. You can tell how someone will act and how true to their word they will be by looking at what they've done in the past.

As I stated above at great length, the way Trump ran his own businesses and spent his own money is evidence that nothing he says now is true. That's the only tangible evidence we have now to measure his words by.

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2016, 07:39:39 pm »
This was obviously said by someone who does not understand the electoral process at all.

Absolute nonsense. I have forgotten more about the electoral process than you have even known, my insulting, fanatically anti-Trump, irrational friend. 

As most fanatical anti-Trumpsters, Shadow Ace denies reality in order to remake it into something that assuages his conscience  (maybe some sane part of him which still remains feels badly about throwing his vote away as if it is worthless). The purpose for the election is to select a president from those candidates who can win. What other possible good reason is there to vote?

Dress up that reality in whatever Halloween costume you like, with each adornment, you separate further and further from reality.

 If you do not want to accept any possibility that Trump might be better than Hill-O-Lies as an act of faith or intuition, then do so. But don't keep shoving nonsense in my face such as "there is some other good reason for voting than selecting one candidate who can win or the other" (here is the most popular one: "sending a statement).

If you refuse to vote for one of the candidates who can win, you are sending only one statement which will endure over history, "I am not really serious about exercising my voting franchise" and no other.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2016, 07:42:09 pm »
It's interesting how Trump trolls come on the forum acting like decent people and soon bare their fangs to reveal a nasty Trump-like arrogance and disturbing rigidity of thought.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: To Anti-Trumpsters (a Burma Shave Poem)
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2016, 07:46:07 pm »
Absolute nonsense. I have forgotten more about the electoral process than you have even known, my insulting, fanatically anti-Trump, irrational friend. 

As most fanatical anti-Trumpsters, Shadow Ace denies reality in order to remake it into something that assuages his conscience  (maybe some sane part of him which still remains feels badly about throwing his vote away as if it is worthless). The purpose for the election is to select a president from those candidates who can win. What other possible good reason is there to vote?

Dress up that reality in whatever Halloween costume you like, with each adornment, you separate further and further from reality.

 If you do not want to accept any possibility that Trump might be better than Hill-O-Lies as an act of faith or intuition, then do so. But don't keep shoving nonsense in my face such as "there is some other good reason for voting than selecting one candidate who can win or the other" (here is the most popular one: "sending a statement).

If you refuse to vote for one of the candidates who can win, you are sending only one statement which will endure over history, "I am not really serious about exercising my voting franchise" and no other.

You are convincing no one with your belligerence.  Besides many of us have already voted. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2016, 07:54:29 pm »
This was obviously said by someone who does not understand the electoral process at all.

Agree, @ShadowAce .

It's interesting how many ignorant Trump zealots are arrogant at the same time.

Deadly combination of character flaws....... but VERY like Trump, himself.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2016, 07:58:02 pm »
I would say 80/20 actually, not by foretelling the future, but by analyzing the past. You can tell how someone will act and how true to their word they will be by looking at what they've done in the past.

As I stated above at great length, the way Trump ran his own businesses and spent his own money is evidence that nothing he says now is true. That's the only tangible evidence we have now to measure his words by.

Well, thank you for being the most honest of anyone else by far AbraXas!!!

So it's 80/20. Since it is safe to assume that you are willing to accept the possibility that Hill-O-Lies will be as bad or worse than the Eightball Obama with 100% certainty, what you are saying is that you are unwilling to accept the 20 % possibility that you will be avoiding absolute disaster for the nation?

So if you were faced with a choice of eleven doors, (ten unknown and one that you knew would lead to Hill-O-Lies as your jailer) with the knowledge that two lead to freedom, you would not choose one of the remaining unknown doors but would instead sit on your hands and let blind fate carry you through which ever door they liked?

With all due respect, (and that is great) that does not sound like much like courage to me. It sounds ( forgive me) like the act (or refusal to act) of a man whose spirit has been broken and who no longer wants to even try to control his own destiny. Twenty percent chance is much, much  better than nothing - especially in a universe with a loving God in heaven to assist us.

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We go out in the world and take our chances
Fate is just the weight of circumstances
That's the way that Lady Luck dances
Roll the bones

Why are we here?
Because we're here
Roll the bones
Why does it happen?
Because it happens
Roll the bones.         

If you live in a deathly blue state, then your vote for president literally means almost nothing. In a swing state however, yours could be a decisive vote. Carpe diem! Add your fractional voltage to the circuit that fries any chance that Hill-O-Lies will become president.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2016, 07:59:25 pm »
Agree, @ShadowAce .

It's interesting how many ignorant Trump zealots are arrogant at the same time.

Deadly combination of character flaws....... but VERY like Trump, himself.

How very like anti-Trumpster fanatics to minimize and objectify people who simply support Donald Trump as "a "zealot".  I am anti-Hill-O-Lies, not pro Trump. I was a Cruz supporter from the beginning but I care more about the fate of the nation than anything so I will roll the dice with even the slightest possibility that God will help save us from certain disaster in a Hill-O-Lies presidency. I believe in God and in taking action where possible. I am no zealot except for Almighty God.

What exactly have I posted that would warrant accusations of ignorance or lead to the insult of arrogance or lack of knowledge of the electoral process?
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2016, 08:03:29 pm »
How very like anti-Trumpster fanatics to minimize and objectify people who simply support Donald Trump as "a "zealot". 

What exactly have I posted that would warrant accusations of ignorance or lead to the insult of arrogance or lack of knowledge of the electoral process?

Pretty much everything on this thread.  Especially your snarky, condescending response to ShadowAce.

But your stupid, yet arrogant initial post was all it took to understand that you don't get it.

btw, stop whining about being "insulted" when your poem was nothing but an insult to anyone who cares both about conservatism and integrity.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.