The Clinton Record

[LMAO]

This is absolutely where the focus should be. 

Everything Trump has done he did as a private citizen accountable to no one but himself and his associates.  Everything HRC has done was as a public servant.  The fact that (between their personal wealth and the Clinton Foundation) she and her husband now control possibly $2 billion in assets having never held a job in the private sector should send chills down the spines of all Americans.  If she is allowed to win the presidency it will be an affirmation of the systemic corruption in our politics, and the establishment will take it as permission to continue operating as usual.

At this stage of the game, people who bash Trump and ignore HRC and her many crimes are little more than useful idiots for the Clinton campaign.  I say vote your conscience, but get out of the way and let the nominee run his campaign.  There will be plenty of time to assess things when it is over.

@massadvj

Very good points.

I won't be voting for Trump. Will  be "voting my conscience. " But I will not work to sabatoge his campaign. It's too late for that, anyways.But in all these  attacks on Trump, many earned and self inflicted, folks forget whose waiting on the other end.  Has anybody heard anything about the Wiki leaks in the press ? I've  heard plenty of who Donald Trump touched. If by some miracle he does end up winning all I can do is just keep my fingers crossed and hope that I'm wrong about him

I agree what Trump has done pales in comparison what she has done. And will continue to do as president

The GOP is going to have to do a lot of soul searching after this campaign, though. Their troubles don't go away with Trump

A tough election for conservatives, that's for sure

[Silver Pines]

@Right_in_Virginia

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for Hillary.  Wouldn't dream of doing so.  The same is true for Trump, who is no more deserving of the office than Clinton.

Since you pinged us all by name, I suppose you're truly desperate for us to support Donald, but speaking for myself, it will never happen.  I'm not so bereft of morality---and of self-respect---that I'll get behind a piece of garbage who has a history of sexually assault.  You know, at this point I think he was 100% accurate when he said that he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose his core supporters.  I truly do.  A good con-man knows his marks.

Nothing good could ever have come from having such a person to lead this nation. Nothing.     And it's a tragedy that you all closed your ears and eyes to the truth about this man and nursed your delusions that he ever had a chance of winning.

[txradioguy]

@Right_in_Virginia

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for Hillary.  Wouldn't dream of doing so.  The same is true for Trump, who is no more deserving of the office than Clinton.

Since you pinged us all by name, I suppose you're truly desperate for us to support Donald, but speaking for myself, it will never happen.  I'm not so bereft of morality---and of self-respect---that I'll get behind a piece of garbage who has a history of sexually assault.  You know, at this point I think he was 100% accurate when he said that he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose his core supporters.  I truly do.  A good con-man knows his marks.

Nothing good could ever have come from having such a person to lead this nation. Nothing.     And it's a tragedy that you all closed your ears and eyes to the truth about this man and nursed your delusions that he ever had a chance of winning.

@CatherineofAragon

[roamer_1]

Nothing good could ever have come from having such a person to lead this nation. Nothing.     And it's a tragedy that you all closed your ears and eyes to the truth about this man and nursed your delusions that he ever had a chance of winning.

Running to their prophets with itching ears...

[Norm Lenhart]

@Right_in_Virginia

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for Hillary.  Wouldn't dream of doing so.  The same is true for Trump, who is no more deserving of the office than Clinton.

Since you pinged us all by name, I suppose you're truly desperate for us to support Donald, but speaking for myself, it will never happen.  I'm not so bereft of morality---and of self-respect---that I'll get behind a piece of garbage who has a history of sexually assault.  You know, at this point I think he was 100% accurate when he said that he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose his core supporters.  I truly do.  A good con-man knows his marks.

Nothing good could ever have come from having such a person to lead this nation. Nothing.     And it's a tragedy that you all closed your ears and eyes to the truth about this man and nursed your delusions that he ever had a chance of winning.

I think the reason we were all pinged by name is not to try converting us. They know that isn't gonna happen. If you go back to yesterday, you will remember that one of the Trump crew was threatening people saying that Trump supporters would 'remember' who was against them. IMO, pinging is was just another stupid and ultimately impotent attempt at intimidating people that stand on principle into silence, reminding us again that 'they know who we are'.

[Oceander]

I think the reason we were all pinged by name is not to try converting us. They know that isn't gonna happen. If you go back to yesterday, you will remember that one of the Trump crew was threatening people saying that Trump supporters would 'remember' who was against them. IMO, pinging is was just another stupid and ultimately impotent attempt at intimidating people that stand on principle into silence, reminding us again that 'they know who we are'.

Gee, I feel left out; I didn't get put on @Right_in_Virginia 's hit list.

[Norm Lenhart]

Gee, I feel left out; I didn't get put on @Right_in_Virginia 's hit list.

Step up your game dude. ;)

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

@txradioguy

*blush*

[Silver Pines]

I think the reason we were all pinged by name is not to try converting us. They know that isn't gonna happen. If you go back to yesterday, you will remember that one of the Trump crew was threatening people saying that Trump supporters would 'remember' who was against them. IMO, pinging is was just another stupid and ultimately impotent attempt at intimidating people that stand on principle into silence, reminding us again that 'they know who we are'.

@Norm Lenhart

That could be.  Won't work.  I don't take to intimidation IRL, so text on a screen won't do it.

[aligncare]

@massadvj

Very good points.

I won't be voting for Trump. Will  be "voting my conscience. " But I will not work to sabatoge his campaign. It's too late for that, anyways.But in all these  attacks on Trump, many earned and self inflicted, folks forget whose waiting on the other end.  Has anybody heard anything about the Wiki leaks in the press ? I've  heard plenty of who Donald Trump touched. If by some miracle he does end up winning all I can do is just keep my fingers crossed and hope that I'm wrong about him

I agree what Trump has done pales in comparison what she has done. And will continue to do as president

The GOP is going to have to do a lot of soul searching after this campaign, though. Their troubles don't go away with Trump

A tough election for conservatives, that's for sure

Don't tell us, tell it to your children and grandchildren. They're the ones that'll be taxed to pay off Hillary Clinton's socialist wealth distribution schemes – to the tune of a $40 trillion national debt.

I'm sure they'll be real proud that you slept well at night.

[Norm Lenhart]

Don't tell us, tell it to your children and grandchildren. They're the ones that'll be taxed to pay off Hillary Clinton's socialist wealth distribution schemes – to the tune of a $40 trillion national debt.

I'm sure they'll be real proud that you slept well at night.

My kid is. She's so proud in fact that she, a vet, is also going to vote for a conservative as she usually does. Many of her fellow vets feel the same way. And best of all, there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.

[LMAO]

Don't tell us, txell it to your children and grandchildren. They're the ones that'll be taxed to pay off Hillary Clinton's socialist wealth distribution schemes – to the tune of a $40 trillion national debt.

I'm sure they'll be real proud that you slept well at night.

So Hillary's debt and federal government expansion is bad, but Trump's is good?

Interesting argument

Well, we will have to agree to disagree on this. You seem to not mind adding numbers to the national debt as long as it's under Trump. I prefer differently.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia, I can reassure you that I am not voting for Hillary Clinton.  Not in a million years.

No third party candidate can or will win the election. Everyone knows this, so choosing to vote for one, while your right, is also an admission that you are okay with President Hillary Clinton.

The ping list @Sanguine (which you were on) was taken from this psychobabble: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,229331.0.html---- a list of posters, I presume, chosen by @Victoria33 in expectation of their agreement and support.

This article I posted was a final attempt at a clarion "wakeup call".  I was hoping Victora33's babble could only be elevated to "Above the Fold" because so few here actually understand the anti-American nightmare of Hillary Clinton.  But I am wrong--the majority here actually believe that tripe to be insightful and accept it to their core. And if this is representative of "conservatism"---there is no need to wonder any longer why it is becoming such a stunning political failure.

[Norm Lenhart]

No third party candidate can or will win the election. Everyone knows this, so choosing to vote for one, while you're right, is also an admission that you are okay with President Hillary Clinton.

The ping list @Sanguine (which you were on) was taken from this psychobabble: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,229331.0.html---- a list of posters, I presume, chosen by @Victoria33 in expectation of their agreement and support.

This article I posted was a final attempt at a clarion "wakeup call".  I was hoping Victora33's babble could only be elevated to "Above the Fold" because so few here actually understand the anti-American nightmare of Hillary Clinton.  But I am wrong--the majority here actually believe that tripe to be insightful and accept it to their core. And if this is representative of "conservatism"---there is no need to wonder any longer why it is becoming such a stunning political failure.

Reading the myriad rationalizations your crew posts convinces me of the correctness of my position RE Trump and that you have never understood what the word or the philosophy of conservatism actually mean. I seriously question whether or not you ever read, much less understand the United States Constitution.

[Gov Bean Counter]

@Right_in_Virginia

Yeah, I'm not going to vote for Hillary.  Wouldn't dream of doing so.  The same is true for Trump, who is no more deserving of the office than Clinton.

Since you pinged us all by name, I suppose you're truly desperate for us to support Donald, but speaking for myself, it will never happen.  I'm not so bereft of morality---and of self-respect---that I'll get behind a piece of garbage who has a history of sexually assault.  You know, at this point I think he was 100% accurate when he said that he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose his core supporters.  I truly do.  A good con-man knows his marks.

Nothing good could ever have come from having such a person to lead this nation. Nothing.     And it's a tragedy that you all closed your ears and eyes to the truth about this man and nursed your delusions that he ever had a chance of winning.

Transitive property of fruitcakes...

RIV is a fruitcake.
Fruitcakes get put on ignore.
RIV is on ignore.

[Smokin Joe]

She is unfit; you'd have to have rocks in the head to help her out, she'll do all to Islamicize the country, bring more illegals in, gun grab, run the nation into the ground, stack the supreme court with leftists.

Who here said she was 'fit'?

Only problem is, in their anger, those who supported him found someone every bit as bad.

How could we "help her out" any more than the people who nominated that charlatan did?

She should have lost, and would have handily to half of the Republican Primary field.

[bigheadfred]

Reading the myriad rationalizations your crew posts convinces me of the correctness of my position RE Trump and that you have never understood what the word or the philosophy of conservatism actually mean. I seriously question whether or not you ever read, much less understand the United States Constitution.

Hey, @Right_in_Virginia , why don't you respond to my post @6? Tell me where I am wrong. Tell me what you don't understand. What I said SHOULD be a clarion "wakeup call".

[Smokin Joe]

@Jazzhead @INVAR @Cripplecreek @Catherine of Aragon @skeeter @jmyrlefuller @Suppressed  @Night Hides Not  @Norm Lenhart @catfish 1957  @Fantom @sinkspur  @libertybele @LMAO @RAT Patrol  @bigheadfred @bilo @musiclady @Chosen Daughter @Bigun @mystery-ak  @mrpotatohead @Emjay Xena-Lee @Sanguine @Once-Ler @txradioguy @kartographer @Smokin Joe @montanajoe
@Gov Bean Counter
@massadvj
@Victoria33

I am well aware of Hillary's sins. I have no desire to see her as POTUS. We only know the things Trump has done which failed to be adjudicated under a nondisclosure agreement, aren't settled yet and covered by such, or for whatever reason remained grievances which were not brought before a bench. There are bits and pieces, breadcrumbs, if you will, which lead to other incidents before his political life which are serious cause for concern.
His regard for truth, fairness, and a host of other virtues has been on display, and that is a showcase full of ugly.
I did not and do not support Hillary, but by the same token, I did not support and will not support Trump.

Frankly, the biggest difference I see this election is that Conservatives will not be betrayed by the Republican. His colors are flying, and the election isn't over. We have plenty of time to get back out of the street before the bus arrives.

As an Original Intent Constitutionalist I have no champion at the top of either major party ticket.

I will vote my conscience, and vote for a Candidate I can support.

[Smokin Joe]

No third party candidate can or will win the election. Everyone knows this, so choosing to vote for one, while you're right, is also an admission that you are okay with President Hillary Clinton.

(remaining horseshit deleted)

There you go again. Okay? Hardly.
 
Look, there's still a little time. We're aware y'all have buyers remorse, at least any of you with enough sense to pour water out of a boot with the directions written on the sole. What I don't understand is why you are so adamant about having us share your shame. Misery loves company, I guess. That little hell won't be any cooler if it is more crowded, so I think I'll just stick to my principles and not join you.

Maybe if y'all asked the Orange festerment real nicely, he'd drop out and save all of you from the coming embarrassment and maybe even America from its coming tribulations.

Otherwise, the folks who insisted on this mess can own it.
I will vote to advance a Party which agrees with me and does not advance Marxist causes.

[Sanguine]

No third party candidate can or will win the election. Everyone knows this, so choosing to vote for one, while your right, is also an admission that you are okay with President Hillary Clinton.

....

RIV, and that is exactly the reason Trump should not ever have been our candidate.  You, by your own admission, are supporting HRC by supporting Trump.

I find it awe-inspiring that Trump supporters have foisted a uniquely unfit candidate on us, in spite of the majority of GOP primary voters having voted against him, and now that you have done so, you accuse us of supporting HRC if we don't accept that which you have foisted. 

[Suppressed]

Thank you, @Right_in_Virginia.

It's a rehash of stuff already discussed, but a good reminder of what we face in a few months.

Those who pushed Trump have hurt this republic immeasurably.

[sinkspur]

This is absolutely where the focus should be. 

Everything Trump has done he did as a private citizen accountable to no one but himself and his associates.  Everything HRC has done was as a public servant.  The fact that (between their personal wealth and the Clinton Foundation) she and her husband now control possibly $2 billion in assets having never held a job in the private sector should send chills down the spines of all Americans.  If she is allowed to win the presidency it will be an affirmation of the systemic corruption in our politics, and the establishment will take it as permission to continue operating as usual.

At this stage of the game, people who bash Trump and ignore HRC and her many crimes are little more than useful idiots for the Clinton campaign.  I say vote your conscience, but get out of the way and let the nominee run his campaign.  There will be plenty of time to assess things when it is over.

Every member of this forum is free to post articles from wherever they wish and on whatever subject they wish.  Hillary articles usually die with one or two comments.

I know I'm one of the objects of your "useful idiot" charge.  I have felt since Trump announced that the "useful idiot" Trump must be kept out of the White House and I'm doing my little part here.  He is every bit as bad as we #NeverTrumps thought.  In fact he's worse.

The man is a mental case.  Hillary is awful, but I'l take corrupt over crazy any time.

And, unless ordered by management, I am not going to stop until Trump has a stake through his political heart.

[bigheadfred]

This place needs some music.


https://youtu.be/YGXYiIDTPDI

@Smokin Joe

Hey Joe! You were in one of my dreams. You played a small brown man with a big hat and an even bigger cigar and you were leading us to a weapons cache.  The whole time I am thinking, "WHO put this guy in charge".  (It was a good dream. Boss   )

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Elliott Schwartz ‏@elliosch 13m13 minutes ago

Try and guess which one is the Republican and which is the Dem candidate based on what they're tweeting about today.

[Smokin Joe]

This place needs some music.


https://youtu.be/YGXYiIDTPDI

@Smokin Joe

Hey Joe! You were in one of my dreams. You played a small brown man with a big hat and an even bigger cigar and you were leading us to a weapons cache.  The whole time I am thinking, "WHO put this guy in charge".  (It was a good dream. Boss   )

Are dreams a window into the future?

Tune in next week....

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