The Clinton Record

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

I like her white papers on geologists (http://www.sarahandrews.net/white-papers/), and her earlier books are better.  After a while, the main character annoyingly whiny, and by the latest book, it's very feminist/atheist.  But Sarah does explore various subfields of geology and how science can be used to solve mysteries.

That is the part which intrigues me. I have testified as a forensic witness before, and it was interesting.

[Bigun]

As to your second point, allow me to offer the Texas Congressional delegation as Exhibit A. With a few exceptions, conservative Texans have been played by them. Very disappointing...I will no longer vote for Kenny Marchant.

I tried VERY hard to throw out the sitting Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee (my congress critter) this past March and damn near got it done! Two years from now he will be history barring some major accomplishment on his part.

[bigheadfred]

That is the part which intrigues me. I have testified as a forensic witness before, and it was interesting.

@Suppressed

I testified at my own hanging once.

[bigheadfred]

It's happening everywhere.  The politicians are experienced at this deception.  Even more than revealing that they are lying, power-grabbing frauds, it is a trojan horse to a Constitutional republic.    Without truth, there is no republic.  There is only an election roulette wheel.  Without an originalist view of the Constitution where amendments are ONLY MADE in the set ways -- no "living constitution" giving the power to amend to judges -- there is no Constitution.  There is just an old piece of paper serving as a springboard.

Every person I have talked to is sick of the political scene. With the majority having no faith that the election will be fair. Most think the hillaryship was a done deal a long time ago. Going to be an  interesting vote.

[Suppressed]

That is the part which intrigues me. I have testified as a forensic witness before, and it was interesting.

Mind sharing some details about what your testimony was in regards to? 

I was recruited by the FBI back in the 90s, back when few people had heard of forensic geology.  But I ultimately didn't go that direction,  even though forensic geology was my primary interest next to military geology.

[Suppressed]

@Suppressed

I testified at my own hanging once.

I'd heard that you were hung.

[RoosGirl]

So let me get this straight, conservatives are NOT supposed to vote for Hillary Clinton?  I can't tell you how thankful I am that someone finally put this out there.  Wow, what a huge mistake I almost made.

[Smokin Joe]

@Suppressed

I testified at my own hanging once.

How did that work out for you?

[Smokin Joe]

Mind sharing some details about what your testimony was in regards to? 

I was recruited by the FBI back in the 90s, back when few people had heard of forensic geology.  But I ultimately didn't go that direction,  even though forensic geology was my primary interest next to military geology.

Just local, and more related to my having been EMS and familiar with some analytical equipment and test methodology. Small pond stuff.

[Frank Cannon]

This is my favorite Clinton record....

[bigheadfred]

How did that work out for you?

Really well for a hanging. I missed the ice cream social afterwards.

Hey! Hey! Guess what? My bro works for the fed/gov. After they install crime boss hillary anyone working for the fed/gov will be a criminal. I can hardly wait to rub it in his face.

[Suppressed]

Just local, and more related to my having been EMS and familiar with some analytical equipment and test methodology. Small pond stuff.

Well, testifying can be a nerve-wracking experience, no matter what venue!

[Smokin Joe]

Well, testifying can be a nerve-wracking experience, no matter what venue!

You have to be careful, as attorneys will lay a minefield for you if they can. It's what they do. Just be precise, correct, never make any statement where there is no evidence and then stick to that evidence. Have a source for everything, and clearly state your professional opinions as such when called upon to do so, with a clear basis in the evidence. You'll do okay.
Good attorneys will build a case based on facts and precedent and apply those in much the same way.

[Smokin Joe]

Really well for a hanging. I missed the ice cream social afterwards.

Hey! Hey! Guess what? My bro works for the fed/gov. After they install crime boss hillary anyone working for the fed/gov will be a criminal. I can hardly wait to rub it in his face.

Fred, the guy running the show now is pretty sketchy if you ask me...

[bigheadfred]

Fred, the guy running the show now is pretty sketchy if you ask me...

@Suppressed

The guy running the show isn't an American so he doesn't count.

Anyways, I am in court one day and this MD is put on the stand. The prosecutor starts asking questions and the defense objects and the judge sustains. This goes on five or six times. Finally the prosecutor says I must be stupid because I haven't even asked a full question yet. The judge told him he was calling a recess to let the guy figure it out. I'm hanging outside the courtroom and the judge comes out of a side room and asks me what was happening in the courtroom. I told him I had heard some wailing and gnashing of teeth. He laughed and told me the prosecutor hadn't established the witness as being expert enough to answer specific medical questions.

[Smokin Joe]

@Suppressed

The guy running the show isn't an American so he doesn't count.

Anyways, I am in court one day and this MD is put on the stand. The prosecutor starts asking questions and the defense objects and the judge sustains. This goes on five or six times. Finally the prosecutor says I must be stupid because I haven't even asked a full question yet. The judge told him he was calling a recess to let the guy figure it out. I'm hanging outside the courtroom and the judge comes out of a side room and asks me what was happening in the courtroom. I told him I had heard some wailing and gnashing of teeth. He laughed and told me the prosecutor hadn't established the witness as being expert enough to answer specific medical questions.

Actually, that is the most uncomfortable part. No matter your credentials or experience, you still have to get past the lawyers. Once you do, you stick to the facts, give clearly labelled opinion when called for, but it is best if you can point to a source or study for every conclusion you draw. (IOW, Know thy stuff, well enough to break it down and teach the jury so they understand the reasoning involved.)

[bigheadfred]

Actually, that is the most uncomfortable part. No matter your credentials or experience, you still have to get past the lawyers. Once you do, you stick to the facts, give clearly labelled opinion when called for, but it is best if you can point to a source or study for every conclusion you draw. (IOW, Know thy stuff, well enough to break it down and teach the jury so they understand the reasoning involved.)

Right. Dazzle 'em with your brilliance...

[Smokin Joe]

Right. Dazzle 'em with your brilliance...

Always. I taught geology labs in college, no problemo. Never a thing that isn't so, and they come out of there feeling a little smarter.

[bigheadfred]

Always. I taught geology labs in college, no problemo. Never a thing that isn't so, and they come out of there feeling a little smarter.

huh

Chocolate labs, yellow labs , black labs, meth labs, geology labs, geology labs...

That any thing like a rock hound?

oh duh

[Smokin Joe]

huh

Chocolate labs, yellow labs , black labs, meth labs, geology labs, geology labs...

That any thing like a rock hound?

oh duh

Well, we had lab methods, but we never abbreviated it even then...
That was the Chemistry department, sitting in the fume hoods late at night, stumbling out and putting the retort and thistle tube in the dishwasher...and only one or two of those folks over there.

Funny you should mention Labradorite, it is one of my favorites. The Royal Bank building in Toronto is covered with that at street level, and it caught my eye immediately.