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Republican Voters Are Unifying Behind Donald Trump

Republican support for Donald Trump is at an all-time high, with GOP voters now just as unified behind Trump as Democrats are behind Hillary Clinton, according to the HuffPost Pollster polling average.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-gaining-among-gop-voters_us_57e02b5ae4b08cb140972605

That's actually not a good story, even if it is spun that way. That means 18% of Republicans don't support Trump. Romney had 95% Republican support, McCain, 92%. When they say it is 'record numbers', those are only record numbers for Trump, not for a Republican presidential candidate at this stage of the game. That means his support was even lower so it shows there are a lot of pragmatic Republican voters who may be on the edge and could have any misstep make voting for him not worth it (I just had a nice text message conversation with one the other day who has been trying to convince me until he pulled the childish 'look up the sex tape' game.).

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What on earth makes you think Nevertrump is a monoblock? That's not my 'plan' Nor is it the plan of many of us. We are doing everything we can to stop hillary. Unfortunately a bunch of liberals are intent on electing another liberal in her place. So you have two choices because that liberal cannot win without us and we arent voting for him. You can all join us and get unified behind one conservative, or you can lose. Because our votes arent going to either liberal, Dem or GOP. Ever. We told you that to begin with. We told you that the last time your crew tried running a lib in 12.  He lost.

Not our fault. Not our problem.

Candidate Trump WAS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate on the most important issues this election cycle. He was much more conservative (on issued) than H.W. Bush, B. Dole, W. Bush, J.McCain or M. Romney. He was the only candidate not owned by the globalists. The only one paying his own way in the GOP primaries.  You say he is a liberal because as a businessman doing business in a very liberal NY he played nice with liberal politicians that could ruin him. I call that just using your survival instincts.  But whatever, Hillary means the death of the Republic and everyone that doesn't vote Trump will be to blame for that.

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That's actually not a good story, even if it is spun that way. That means 18% of Republicans don't support Trump. Romney had 95% Republican support, McCain, 92%. When they say it is 'record numbers', those are only record numbers for Trump, not for a Republican presidential candidate at this stage of the game. That means his support was even lower so it shows there are a lot of pragmatic Republican voters who may be on the edge and could have any misstep make voting for him not worth it (I just had a nice text message conversation with one the other day who has been trying to convince me until he pulled the childish 'look up the sex tape' game.).

Consider that the GOP has had mass defections. Thr 90ish number is the percent of a SMALLER BASE NUMBER.

Which bodes poorly. More poorly than lawn dart or Romney.

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I can understand voting third party, I did when McCain was on the ballot because I knew if McCain were elected he would grant amnesty to all the illegals here, thus handing the country over to the Marxists forever.  However I can not understand doing everything possible to prevent Hillary from ever occupying the oval office. 

The NeverTrump plan to throw the election into the House and then expect a Republican House to not elect either Hillary or Trump is delusional. Not going to happen. At least not in this universe. 

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That isn't the plan, that is just a statistical chance of what could happen if people stopped playing the game and voted their conscience. Based on our electoral history and how many times this has happened, that's a 5 percent chance of happening. If you then also add in historically how many third parties have overtaken the primary parties in elections, that probability jumps to about 15%. We aren't deluded to think that probability is great, but what it shows is that voting your values, even if it isn't for a main party candidate, is never a wasted vote.

What is a waste is when you reject your values and only play the game.

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Candidate Trump WAS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate on the most important issues this election cycle. He was much more conservative (on issued) than H.W. Bush, B. Dole, W. Bush, J.McCain or M. Romney. He was the only candidate not owned by the globalists. The only one paying his own way in the GOP primaries.  You say he is a liberal because as a businessman doing business in a very liberal NY he played nice with liberal politicians that could ruin him. I call that just using your survival instincts.  But whatever, Hillary means the death of the Republic and everyone that doesn't vote Trump will be to blame for that.

Too stupid for a serious reply. Trump has a lifetime record and it isn't remotely conservative. Saying he's a conservative is a lie. He's a liberal.

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Since I also take deductions to alleviate my tax bill, I won't condemn Trump for doing the same as long as what he did was allowed by law.

But Trump is a tax shamer. And that makes him a hypocrite.
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He IS a hypocrite as you say.  Since this tax revelation came out about Trump, I have seen numerous clips of Trump where he complains people don't pay their taxes, that corporations don't pay taxes.  Plus, his tax plan gives breaks to rich people like him.  He says that is so the rich, with even more money than they have now, can start companies to hire people.  I, however, expect the rich to keep that money for themselves, sock it away, or invest it in big companies already started in order to turn it into more money from dividends and maybe the stock going up.  He has no idea, and neither do I, what rich people would do with more money given to them by his plan.  He would benefit himself, have more money, with his plan and that is what Trump always does - suck money from others including the federal government, if he is president.

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Candidate Trump WAS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate on the most important issues this election cycle. He was much more conservative (on issued) than H.W. Bush, B. Dole, W. Bush, J.McCain or M. Romney. He was the only candidate not owned by the globalists. The only one paying his own way in the GOP primaries.  You say he is a liberal because as a businessman doing business in a very liberal NY he played nice with liberal politicians that could ruin him. I call that just using your survival instincts.  But whatever, Hillary means the death of the Republic and everyone that doesn't vote Trump will be to blame for that.

OK, now I know you are just playing a parody. It is hard to tell sometime. LOL, good one, you had us for a while.

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Conservatives for Hillary!  LOL.

That wasn't the choice I wanted.   I'd have preferred to defeat Trumpism at or before the convention.   Now the price will be exponentially higher - thanks to the fools seduced by the orange demagogue/game show host.

I'm with cripplecreek - the stakes right now are the future of conservatism.   Trump means NO future.       

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If my vote moves us in the direction of better choices, then it is a vote well spent.  Voting for Clinton or Trump is wasting my vote because it supports all the poor decisions that brought us to this sorry state.

Your vote moves us in the direction of Hillary as POTUS.

As POTUS hillary will grant amnesty to tens of millions and no conservative will ever again be elected nationally. Got that? American conservatism will be in the ash heap of history if Hillary gets elected.

As POTUS hillary will nominate Marxists judges to the courts including the Supreme Court. The American constitution will be in the ash heap of history if Hillary is elected.

As POTUS hillary will increase ten fold the number of Muslim "refugees" coming to the country. The war on terror will come to the USA big time if Hillary is elected.

As POTUS hillary will continue the pro-Muslin Brotherhood policies of the current administration.

As POTUS hillary will continue the pro Globalism policies of the current administration.

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For you to @Jazzhead
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Your vote moves us in the direction of Hillary as POTUS.

As POTUS hillary will grant amnesty to tens of millions and no conservative will ever again be elected nationally. Got that? American conservatism will be in the ash heap of history if Hillary gets elected.

As POTUS hillary will nominate Marxists judges to the courts including the Supreme Court. The American constitution will be in the ash heap of history if Hillary is elected.

As POTUS hillary will increase ten fold the number of Muslim "refugees" coming to the country. The war on terror will come to the USA big time if Hillary is elected.

As POTUS hillary will continue the pro-Muslin Brotherhood policies of the current administration.

As POTUS hillary will continue the pro Globalism policies of the current administration.

etc

etc

etc

See? You should have listened when we told you Trump was a no go. Now you are stuck with him and responsible for the outcome.

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That wasn't the choice I wanted.   I'd have preferred to defeat Trumpism at or before the convention.   Now the price will be exponentially higher - thanks to the fools seduced by the orange demagogue/game show host.

I'm with cripplecreek - the stakes right now are the future of conservatism.   Trump means NO future.       

Perhaps it is a good day to die.


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OK, now I know you are just playing a parody. It is hard to tell sometime. LOL, good one, you had us for a while.

Really you think any of those (Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney) was conservative? Dole maybe, back in the day as a young Senator, the rest are all liberal globalists.

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See? You should have listened when we told you Trump was a no go. Now you are stuck with him and responsible for the outcome.

Hillary appreciates your support.

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Really you think any of those (Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney) was conservative? Dole maybe, back in the day as a young Senator, the rest are all liberal globalists.

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By that measure, our inevitable decline began on 1/20/1989.  Whether the new President is Trump or Clinton, we are in a fiscal free fall that will end badly.

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Hillary appreciates your support.

As I have given her none, you'd be a liar for pushing that meme.

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If any candidate promised to sterilize the "binary" crusader-drones, they'd win my vote.

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If any candidate promised to sterilize the "binary" crusader-drones, they'd win my vote.

I like "Existential Cage Theory". Basically, the only way for humanity to survive is to lock liberals in cages, put them on display as a bad example to others. No need to sterilize.

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That's interesting considering I quoted a conservative legal authority while calling you out on your progressive vomitus on taxes.

Enjoy your special status snowflake.

Trumpkins don't need to do stretching exercises.  Bending and stretching while trying to defend Trump on everything is enough.
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...oh, I just thought of one other piece of evidence of my wounded pride theory.

A moderator here at TBR PM'd me not to say anything about NeverTrumpers being Hillary supporters or that NeverTrump lends tacit support for the Hillary campaign, because it "sets them off."

Isn't that interesting? NeverTrumpers can say anything they please about Trump supporters, but if we Trump supporters speak of the 800 lb gorilla in the room, we get admonished and censored.

Isn't that interesting to see on a website that purports to support everyone's free speech?

Don't try and lie to us, you people are not interested in anyone's 'free speech' but your own.

YOU PEOPLE have TRUMP SAFE SPACES right here on this board - where absolutely nothing negative about your prince is permitted to be posted.  I think the subhead is "Pro-Trump only".

YOU PEOPLE have mobbed and taken over myriad and many social groups and discussion boards that are a militantly intolerant of anything that is not heralding the praises of your prince.  Many here, former members having suffered YOUR BRAND of 'free speech'.

As to censoring, YOU PEOPLE are the first and the many to complain about each and every post, picture and opinion that you do not like to the mods here.  YOUR COMPATRIOTS ON THIS BOARD have openly advocated the banning and removal of those of us whom they insisted were an affront to the board, simply because of whom we refuse to vote for and opine against.

You and your cheerleading Gang of 7 or 8 or whatever, rally yourselves and target this board from TOS and other places just to get off on how big you think you are.

And you're nothing.  Less than nothing except the very things antithetical, anathema and hostile to  the very liberties you people pay lip service to.

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As I have given her none, you'd be a liar for pushing that meme.

A Trumpist's favorite lie. Ironically this Trump lover accused me of lying when l said Trump inherited money and now he's telling the blatant lie that's forbidden on this forum.

There's not a single Hillary supporter here and yet their ugly lies continue.

There is no honor among Trump trolls. None.
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See? You should have listened when we told you Trump was a no go. Now you are stuck with him and responsible for the outcome.

They will never admit that they are responsible for the ugly mess we are in.

That would require honesty and they are unfamiliar with the concept.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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They will never admit that they are responsible for the ugly mess we are in.

That would require honesty and they are unfamiliar with the concept.

Thats OK. Trump supporters are a problem with a bult in solution. Last I saw the open libs were attacking them in the streets and the Dems are now reported to be compiling lists of Trump supporters to deal with after Hillary takes power.

Just remember to never endanger yourself or your loved ones trying to protect these liars when the open liberals come for them for real. Just stand aside and remind them that A: Conservatives are not needed and B: that they should tell some of their lies to the people throwing them in cattle cars and raiding their bank accounts.

Too bad, so sad. Actions have consequences. They chose this path.

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@musiclady

Trump supporters have to find someone to blame for the loss that everyone can see coming.  And they can't blame Ted Cruz withholding his endorsement as the reason anymore.

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