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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #200 on: September 07, 2016, 10:22:06 pm »
Or it could mean he'll simply get the DOJ to back off their investigations of local police departments, beef up the border patrol and refocus attention on criminal gang activities like interstate drug running and human trafficking...things he's specifically talked about.

Trump isn't going to be a judge, so his opinion on Kelo doesn't change the legal landscape. Eminent Domain is a necessary measure and has a place in the government toolbox.
Obamacare IS a disaster and I haven't seen any of Trump's proposals given an actual fiscal score. I doubt the program he come's up with will be more expensive than the current convoluted system unless it is by agreement with the American people.

Damn!  You're good! 

Succinct and right to the point.   :beer:
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #201 on: September 07, 2016, 10:28:26 pm »
Great point about ethanol. Also, when we are sitting on a sea of oil it isn't really smart to use food for gas. Corn is one of the staples of our food chain and any excess capacity could be used as a lever in foreign policy.

Corn is a renewable American resource and ethanol helps keep the air clean. Ethanol production is a good American business
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #202 on: September 07, 2016, 10:31:12 pm »
Corn is a renewable American resource and ethanol helps keep the air clean. Ethanol production is a good American business
I see you've been using it for more than fuel for your car.

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #203 on: September 07, 2016, 10:38:12 pm »
@Bigun @Longmire

ARRRRGGGGHHHHH! ETHANOL needs to be supported?????

It is one of the biggest brain farts foisted off on us by what passes for our government. It not only rusts out gas lines,melts plastic carb parts,gas tanks, and gas filters, it also LOWERS mpg and pollutes ground water to make it useless for watering crops or even drinking.

Its safer than fracking. 

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #204 on: September 07, 2016, 10:50:47 pm »
Damn!  You're good! 

Succinct and right to the point.   :beer:

I'll second that. Not a wasted word. Expressed with more than just economy, but with righteous truth! Way to go @Longmire!

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #205 on: September 07, 2016, 10:52:36 pm »
  I just chose your post as a vehicle to express my belief that we all have more in common with each other than we do with Democrats,

Trump is a fiscal and social leftist, a vile and immoral piece of human filth. Conservatives have nothing in common with that.

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #206 on: September 07, 2016, 10:54:21 pm »

Its safer than fracking.

SO much idiocy so little time!  **nononono*
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #207 on: September 07, 2016, 10:54:55 pm »
Trump is a fiscal and social leftist, a vile and immoral piece of human filth. Conservatives have nothing in common with that.

And I will second that!
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #208 on: September 07, 2016, 11:05:25 pm »
Please accept my apology that my post sounded like I was singling you out.  It was meant to address both pro-Trump and anti-Trump sides.  I just chose your post as a vehicle to express my belief that we all have more in common with each other than we do with Democrats, and my hope that we can all come together after November...after the requisite 'I told you so's have been flung in their...or our faces.

As I mentioned in my original post I think you are an exceptionally intelligent writer and TBR is lucky to have your voice.

@Once-Ler, I obviously misunderstood you.  That's my fault.  I agree with everything you've said and I hope that we can, somehow, heal  the rift after the election is over.  I'll say right here and now that, should Trump win and should he actually be a good president, I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong.  I don't think that will happen, personally, but if it does, it will benefit us all.

I appreciate your kind words very much.  I think there are many here who are more intelligent than I am, but I thank you.

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #209 on: September 07, 2016, 11:05:50 pm »
Trump is a fiscal and social leftist, a vile and immoral piece of human filth. Conservatives have nothing in common with that.

geronl I am so disappointed in you compared to your past post it seems that you are warming up to Trump.  :smokin:
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #210 on: September 07, 2016, 11:37:31 pm »

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #211 on: September 07, 2016, 11:55:12 pm »
Especially 70 year old ones!

@Bigun

Not even 70 year old ones who are so smart they "know all the best words"
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #212 on: September 07, 2016, 11:57:52 pm »
Corn is a renewable American resource and ethanol helps keep the air clean. Ethanol production is a good American business

Ethanol is a double negative. The ONLY people it benefits are the people getting federal money to subsidize it. It is destructive of everything it touches,including the ground water.
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #213 on: September 07, 2016, 11:59:19 pm »

Its safer than fracking.

@Longmire


Says the man whose income is dependent on ethanol.

I know this because nobody else would make that claim.

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #214 on: September 08, 2016, 12:13:52 am »
@Longmire


Says the man whose income is dependent on ethanol.

I know this because nobody else would make that claim.


@sneakypete

My income is not dependent on ethanol...

...and the 5,000% increase in earthquakes in Oklahoma is what, just statistical noise?  :shrug:





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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #215 on: September 08, 2016, 12:17:03 am »
@sneakypete

My income is not dependent on ethanol...

...and the 5,000% increase in earthquakes in Oklahoma is what, just statistical noise?  :shrug:

I don't know,but I'd sure like to now where you can up with that number?

I'm also wondering what the number of earthquakes will be when the feral government finally has to pay to pump all all the water already poisoned by ethanol to prevent it from poisoning the new rain water seeping into the ground?
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #216 on: September 08, 2016, 12:48:29 am »
Ethanol is a double negative. The ONLY people it benefits are the people getting federal money to subsidize it. It is destructive of everything it touches,including the ground water.

Peer reviewed research funded in part by the American Petroleum Institute.

Long-Term Groundwater Monitoring Results at Large, Sudden Denatured Ethanol Releases


Conclusion:

Although  ethanol  was  transported  to  groundwater  at all three sites, ethanol was not detected beyond the initial release areas. If an ethanol plume developed, it may have been  limited  to  a  thin  layer  at  the  top  of  the  aquifer  and degraded  rapidly. The  data  do  not  support  the  contention that  ethanol  easily  enters  groundwater  from  the  vadose zone, develops a plume, and influences the persistence of BTEX

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #217 on: September 08, 2016, 12:15:03 pm »
@Smokin Joe

You are a better man that I when it comes to patience. They wore me down long ago and I just mostly quit posting to them when I realized that nothing anyone could ever say or do would have any impact at all on most of them. They are members of a cult,and they feel safe,warm,and secure in there with their fellow cult members.
It isn't a question of being better, it is just that liars have cost me well over a million dollars in this lifetime, and being unable to reach through the screen and smack them, I have to settle for inconvenienced electrons and mere words.

They are, indeed, members of a cult.

Just yesterday, on a thread locked before I had opportunity to fully respond, I was being "schooled" on the Weathermen, by someone who should know my handle from TOS and the 40-odd thousand posts there. Yes, I recall those jackasses from college. If they hadn't had 'good' drugs, they wouldn't have had half the people they did. They left out the SDS, they left out the little red book for Castro's insurgents (which I have read), they left out the Communist Manifesto, instead preferring to call the Crony Socialists of the Clinton cadre NaziStalinists, without apparently realizing the Communists were a faction opposed to the National Socialists, and ignoring the glaring parallels in behaviour between those and themselves. They left out Mao's little red book, too (there were a lot of red books then, (even one on US Coin values :laugh:)). I noticed they left out Saul Alinsky, too, not wanting to remind people how that works, because..well...uh....lyin Ted!!! Crooked Hillary!!!

The real amusement is that no matter how loud, no matter how shrill, no matter how many voices shout in harmonic union, they're still wrong.
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #218 on: September 08, 2016, 12:29:04 pm »

Its safer than fracking.
Your turn. Let's see the statistics. Provide the links.

Being a farmer is still in the top ten most dangerous jobs. Working in the oil industry isn't.

Not one earthquake has been caused by hydraulic fracturing. (Look at ND, tens of thousands of wells, and not one earthquake since 1982 in the area where oil is produced, and that not from fraccing). Like we Geologists tell the Geophysicists, "It's not our Fault." (that's a joke, son).

Not one water well has been shown to be contaminated by fraccing.
 
The methane those guys light coming out of their faucets has been doing so since long before anyone fracked a well, and I knew guys in West Virginia in the '70s who could light the gas coming off the spring they got their water from. (Why they haven't figured out how to capture that methane and use it is beyond me. I'd at least have it heating an outbuilding in the winter, or be cooking over it year-round.)

So please, show the stats where fraccing is more dangerous than farming and ethanol production.
Links, too, please.
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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #219 on: September 08, 2016, 03:58:12 pm »
She's a 

She?  I had no idea and that explains a lot!  (I don't mean that with any ill intent, but with true earnestness...)

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Re: Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election
« Reply #220 on: September 08, 2016, 05:37:57 pm »
The very first hydraulic frac job was done in 1949 and since then there has been an estimated 600,000 wells frac'd. It is nothing new like all the media and other idiots have proclaimed.