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Offline endicom

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If not quibbling over terminology, this is an excellent article.


Forbes

Tim Worstall
Aug. 26, 2016

Excerpt:

This incident is not one to make fun of - Rodolfo Illanes, a government minister, has been beaten to death by striking miners. That’s not something to joke about. And yet it’s worth pointing out what the miners are actually striking against: socialism. They want the right to work with capitalist companies, the one and very thing which the government is determined they should not be allowed to do. There is of course a simple solution here which is that there should be a free market. No, not just the free market in who may buy and sell what, but a free market in which forms of organisation should be used to do what. This is something which we already allow – people can set up an organisation upon whatever lines they like. We do rule out slavery, child labor and so on, but other than that you can set up a socialist organisation, a cooperative, one owned by the workers, the customers, whatever you wish, as well as the more capitalist idea of a limited company with outside shareholders.

Those striking Bolivian miners are doing so for the freedom which we already possess. And why shouldn’t they also have said freedom?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/08/26/bolivarian-miners-kill-government-minister-in-protest-against-socialism/#821809663563


Worstall is right. In the U.S., up until recent times, we have been free to act individually or collectively at our whim or will. 

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 03:38:16 pm »
On the bright side, I bet someone got the message.
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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 03:47:10 pm »
On the bright side, I bet someone got the message.

Socialists tend to reply brutally to messages.

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2016, 07:19:19 pm »
Socialists tend to reply brutally to messages.
Indeed. Maduro is even more aggressive that Chavez was, and I think things are not going to go well for these miners.

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2016, 07:53:09 pm »
Indeed. Maduro is even more aggressive that Chavez was, and I think things are not going to go well for these miners.

This is Bolivia which is, I think, but half-associalist. Good luck to the miners, though.

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2016, 01:59:38 am »
Ultimately, there is but one way to get rid of socialism.

The miners seem to understand...

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2016, 02:03:44 am »
Ultimately, there is but one way to get rid of socialism.

The miners seem to understand...
The "Ceausescu Option."

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2016, 02:09:01 am »
Ultimately, there is but one way to get rid of socialism.

The miners seem to understand...


Maybe it's that they do understand. I wouldn't condone murder but would condone rebelling against oppression.

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Re: Bolivarian Miners Kill Government Minister In Protest Against Socialism
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2016, 02:24:55 am »
Indeed. Maduro is even more aggressive that Chavez was, and I think things are not going to go well for these miners.
Well, people might get ideas...
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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