Suspicions Confirmed: Trump’s Campaign Was A Pre-Planned Con Job

[Longmire]

I don't see Mr. Trump mentioned, so a candidate is really being supported who got donations from this group? Okay, just hope you are consistent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/us/campaign-donations-linked-to-white-supremacist.html?_r=0

@TomSea Interesting article...I actually prefer Paul's response to the news than I do Cruz's.

[Smokin Joe]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/us/campaign-donations-linked-to-white-supremacist.html?_r=0

@TomSea Interesting article...I actually prefer Paul's response to the news than I do Cruz's.

While I see the benefit of Paul's response, Cruz's is good, too. IMHO, returning the money has its good and bad points: It is a complete refutation of the donation. However, the money will be free to go out to someone else from the original source.

[Victoria33]

As a Cruz supporter, I'll tell you exactly the way I think --- I am tired of YOUR crap!  The 'ignore' feature is a wonderful thing.  Anyone care to join me?

I used Ignore for TomSea shortly after I joined this forum along with RIV and several others.  It is a waste of time to read their less than intelligent excuses for less than intelligent, insane Trump. 

[Hoodat]

Clinton

or

Trump


That's all we get.

Let me know how it turns out.  I'm curious which NY liberal we will get stuck with.

[Oceander]

Kind of a bummer because it will be one or the other. I really wanted Ted Cruz. But, alas, it will Clinton or Trump.

Clinton

or

Trump



Clinton

or

Trump


That's all we get.

Nope.  Got third-party, write-in, or leave it blank and focus on the down-ticket races.  Making sure the GOP retains control of Congress is more important this year than who occupies the White House.  Whomever that is, we need a Congress that will frustrate that person, be it Trump or be it Clinton.

[Longmire]

Making sure the GOP retains control of Congress is more important this year than who occupies the White House.

I'd say nominating new members of the Supreme court, repealing Obamacare, and stopping the flood of illegals entering the United States is more important re-electing some milquetoast Republicans.

[musiclady]

I'd say nominating new members of the Supreme court, repealing Obamacare, and stopping the flood of illegals entering the United States is more important re-electing some milquetoast Republicans.

And none of those things can happen because of those of you who blindly supported pro-Obamacare leftist Trump as the "Republican" nominee.


So thanks a bunch for throwing the country away.....

[Longmire]

And none of those things can happen because of those of you who blindly supported pro-Obamacare leftist Trump as the "Republican" nominee.


So thanks a bunch for throwing the country away.....

 

[geronl]

No, slim majority (52.61%) are in favor of either Trump or Clinton to the point of saying "absolutely yes" to one or the other.  Only 47.39% want neither (if we generously include those who picked Trump or Clinton on the "best we've got" as preferring another choice)

Both of them got NO in the 60-63% range

[geronl]

I'd say nominating new members of the Supreme court, repealing Obamacare, and stopping the flood of illegals entering the United States is more important re-electing some milquetoast Republicans.

He hated Scalia and loved the Kelo decision, he loves the individual mandate and government paid healthcare and he loves touch back amnesty

[libertybele]

Even with all the 'evidence' that confirms Trump is nothing more than a liberal fraud and his campaign is a pre-planned con job, Trump supporters are still following the orange 'pied piper'. At this point, I'm trying to figure out if they are as delusional and sick as he is or if they lack the intelligence to see that they've been duped.   

[Jazzhead]

Nope.  Got third-party, write-in, or leave it blank and focus on the down-ticket races.  Making sure the GOP retains control of Congress is more important this year than who occupies the White House.  Whomever that is, we need a Congress that will frustrate that person, be it Trump or be it Clinton.

Correct.   There are lots of choices beyond voting for a corrupt socialist or an unhinged fascist.   If you favor liberty-centric, Constitutional government and you also demand experienced leadership, try the ticket that boasts two successful two-term GOP governors.

There's no practical or moral reason to waste a vote on Donald Trump.     

[Jazzhead]

I'd say nominating new members of the Supreme court, repealing Obamacare, and stopping the flood of illegals entering the United States is more important re-electing some milquetoast Republicans.

We're beyond all that now.   What matters is that Trump be defeated and the Senate and House be saved.   

[musiclady]

It is duly noted that you think losing America to a corrupt leftist is funny.

Thanks again.

[don-o]

This is a great opportunity for a Third Party with a decent platform to grow. If we're going to get hit with a NY Liberal either way, best to build for a future. I don't see one for Constitutional COnservatives with either the GOP or the Democrat/Marxists.

Been there. Done that...

George Wallace
John Anderson
Ross Perot

Ring any bells?

[Bigun]

Even with all the 'evidence' that confirms Trump is nothing more than a liberal fraud and his campaign is a pre-planned con job, Trump supporters are still following the orange 'pied piper'. At this point, I'm trying to figure out if they are as delusional and sick as he is or if they lack the intelligence to see that they've been duped.   

 

[wolfcreek]

It sickens my stomach.  Through my entire life, I have been defending the Republican Party as the party of liberty, freedom, equal opportunity, and civil rights.  From John Fremont putting his wife up with him in 1856, to the anti-slavery amendments added to the Constitution after the War of Secession, to Teddy R. pushing for women's suffrage in the early 20th century, to Republicans pushing for anti-lynching legislation in the 1930s, to the civil rights bills of the 1950s and 1960s, the Republican Party has left a true legacy of all men being created equal.

Yet a century and a half after Lincoln spoke those famous words at Gettysburg, I find that my party has been infiltrated with bigots who wouldn't support Cruz because his name sounded 'Mexican', but were willing to come up with a plethora of lies to cover that reason up.

This is a self-fulfilling prophesy for the Democrats.  For the last five decades, they have been (wrongly) accusing Republicans of being the party of racism.  Today, their claims have been validated.  To hell with all of you.

I continue to stand on the creed that all men are created equal.  I continue to believe that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."

If you believe some Leftist rag...sure. I learned long ago that the parties were becoming one. It was a complete illusion to believe otherwise.

One of the few appeals Trump has [aside from not being Hillary] is his outsiderness. The media hates him, the Democrats hate him and the GOPe hates him.

[Oceander]

If you believe some Leftist rag...sure. I learned long ago that the parties were becoming one. It was a complete illusion to believe otherwise.

One of the few appeals Trump has [aside from not being Hillary] is his outsiderness. The media hates him, the Democrats hate him and the GOPe hates him.

Yeah, a consummate insider whose only real success has come from reality TV, whose policies are, generally, stupid and liberal, and who constantly plays to the lowest common denominator is really appealing.  To LIVs perhaps, motivated by fear, spite, and a desire to have their own personal Obama, but not to anyone with half a brain.

It's fascinating how Trumpkins continue to believe that Trump is an outsider despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary.  Do outsiders get invited to high-level Clinton affairs?  Do outsiders do crony-capital real estate deals in NYC?  Deals that require getting really cozy with the liberals in the NYC council?

No, they don't.  Trump isn't an outsider, he's a consummate insider, and he's got you thoroughly bamboozled if you think otherwise.

[Bigun]

If you believe some Leftist rag...sure. I learned long ago that the parties were becoming one. It was a complete illusion to believe otherwise.

One of the few appeals Trump has [aside from not being Hillary] is his outsiderness. The media hates him, the Democrats hate him and the GOPe hates him.

Balderdash! The ONLY reason Trump is the republican nominee is that the media gave him anything he wanted until he was nominated and millions of  crossover democrats voted for him in republican primaries!

[RoosGirl]

Been there. Done that...

George Wallace
John Anderson
Ross Perot

Ring any bells?

What is your suggestion then?  Continue on with the two major parties we already have and just blindly vote for whoever the republican nominee ends up being?

[Jazzhead]

What is your suggestion then?  Continue on with the two major parties we already have and just blindly vote for whoever the republican nominee ends up being?

Exercising solidarity by voting for the nominee of one's party is not "blindly" voting - I say it's a good and healthy thing and something I've practiced for forty years now.

That's why this year is so remarkable -  Trump's so uniquely dangerous that I will for the first time decline to vote my party.   

[musiclady]

Exercising solidarity by voting for the nominee of one's party is not "blindly" voting - I say it's a good and healthy thing and something I've practiced for forty years now.

That's why this year is so remarkable -  Trump's so uniquely dangerous that I will for the first time decline to vote my party.

Same here.  First time ever, but your description of "uniquely dangerous" describes exactly why I CANNOT vote for him.

[RoosGirl]

Exercising solidarity by voting for the nominee of one's party is not "blindly" voting - I say it's a good and healthy thing and something I've practiced for forty years now.

That's why this year is so remarkable -  Trump's so uniquely dangerous that I will for the first time decline to vote my party.

Correct.  The 'blindly' voting part is not recognizing that a nominee can be so uniquely dangerous that you cannot vote for the party nominee.

[Smokin Joe]

Been there. Done that...

George Wallace
John Anderson
Ross Perot

Ring any bells?

Yep. Funny thing about being shot. That puts a kink in your campaign.

Anderson I didn't have any use for, Perot managed to get enough vote that the Clintons squeaked in.

When I say vote third party, you can vote for a person or a set of principles. I think a Third Party should be built on the latter, otherwise, at best it will be a flash in the pan.
I like the Constitution Party for that reason, even though it has been catching flack (mainly from libertarians) for being too "religious", the principles are simple, follow the Constitution.
The more people for limited Government know about the Constitution, the more they will realize that was the plan all along. What we need to do is return to that basic idea.

[unknown]

What is your suggestion then?  Continue on with the two major parties we already have and just blindly vote for whoever the republican nominee ends up being?

It is a tough one. No doubt. Here is where I am on this most difficult question.

I live in a state that will vote republican. No problem, the republican will win this state. Therefore, I know that I don't have to vote republican, but I can vote for Constitution Party, as I have in the last who know how many elections. This allows my state to go Republican, and yet my vote will hopefully continue to support a 3rd party.

For those people that don't live in a state that will go Republican. Well, that is a tough call. I certainly cannot fault anyone for voting their conscience. God will give is our leaders. We have to do our due diligence and vote, and let God determine what our fate may be. More judgement sent down on us, a reprieve from His judgement, or possibly the start of reformation - His call. I just live here at His good service.

If I lived in a swing state, well, in this case I would probably vote for Trump. I am absolutely deeply afraid of Hillary. I thought Obama would have been more like Bill Clinton, so in swing states I may have voted Constitution Party, but now I cannot believe the damage that Obama has done (and yes, with a complicit republican congress.) And I am absolutely certain that Hillary will far, far worse than Obama. I firmly believe this country will not be able to survive a Hillary presidency, I do believe we be able to survive a Trump presidency. I believe that Trump will break the current corruption hold by both parties; and yes, he may bring in a new corruption, but maybe not, we really don't know. But we definitely know the evil that Hillary has and will bring.

And, I could all be wrong, with all of this. But this is where I am.