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[unknown]

Why?  What did we do?

Do you really not think His judgement is not on us?

[jmyrlefuller]

Why?  What did we do?

Well, we can start with the wholesale embrace of lust and envy.

[sinkspur]

Do you really not think His judgement is not on us?

What does that even mean?  And you didn't answer the question.  What did we do that would cause God to rain down some adversity on us?

Is that really the kind of God you believe in?  We do something bad, He does something bad? 

[sinkspur]

Well, we can start with the wholesale embrace of lust and envy.

There's always been lust and envy.  Always. 

[jmyrlefuller]

There's always been lust and envy.  Always.

Not as bad as it is now. At least for a few centuries, anyway.

[unknown]

What does that even mean?  And you didn't answer the question.  What did we do that would cause God to rain down some adversity on us?

Is that really the kind of God you believe in?  We do something bad, He does something bad?

Romans 1:
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


And yes, I believe this.

Our current infatuation with all sorts of perversion, homosexuality, tranny, LBGTQ, etc., is a judgment upon our country!

[240B]

Well, as for me, I have a Karaoke gathering I have to get to with a bunch of friends and coworkers. Last time it was roll on the floor funny. Pot luck with tons of good food and treats.

Wishing all of you the best tonight and wish you were here.

I suspect that if we were all together singing Karaoke together, all of the negativity involved in this election would melt away, at least a little.

Oh well. After the election hopefully we can all be friends again. We'll see.

[Sanguine]

Well, as for me, I have a Karaoke gathering I have to get to with a bunch of friends and coworkers. Last time it was roll on the floor funny. Pot luck with tons of good food and treats.

Wishing all of you the best tonight and wish you were here.

I suspect that if we were all together singing Karaoke together, all of the negativity involved in this election would melt away, at least a little.

Oh well. After the election hopefully we can all be friends again. We'll see.

Oh, honey, if I were singing karaoke all that would melt would be your ears.  Hopefully that would be all.

[sinkspur]

Romans 1:
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


And yes, I believe this.

Our current infatuation with all sorts of perversion, homosexuality, tranny, LBGTQ, etc., is a judgment upon our country!

As it has always been.  But that's a discussion for another day.

[musiclady]

Demonization of skeptics and stigmatization of dissent have been staples of Progressive politics for a century now. To see such poisonous tactics wholly embraced by Trumpist Republicans ought to be disheartening, and even depressing to all who still aspire to the values Americans once largely shared, in spite of their differences.

Free people, those possessed of open minds and a thirst for knowledge may yet have and ought to have strong opinions. But they ought never engage in ad hominem attacks in lieu of rational argument. Let us leave such modes of false argumentation, including straw men, inversion of cause and effect, and false dichotomies to those who have no other intellectual recourse in support of their propositions but to insult, degrade and dishonestly accuse.

Thank you for that post, andy.    You remain one of the most intelligent, most thoughtful people on this forum, and I treasure your words, which I know you give carefully.

This experience has made me more circumspect than previously, and I will be less likely to set myself up for anything like it again.

Your point that it is a Progressive tactic, now commonly employed by Trump Republicans is worth repeating.   We are seeing leftism in spades with these "conservatives" and it's tempting to respond in like manner.

[roamer_1]

60 MILLION murdered babies.

[Victoria33]

@musiclady
I have RiV on permanent IGNORE because her ethics are significantly challenged ...

Me, too. Substance is not there, just tacky name calling.

[musiclady]

Oh, honey, if I were singing karaoke all that would melt would be your ears.  Hopefully that would be all.

Oh, don't sell yourself short, Sanguine!  I'll bet you do a stellar job on "Play that Funky Music, White Boy."    ^-^

[Sanguine]

Oh, don't sell yourself short, Sanguine!  I'll bet you do a stellar job on "Play that Funky Music, White Boy."    ^-^

Disco!  Bite your tongue!

[musiclady]

60 MILLION murdered babies.

That alone is cause for severe punishment.

We are paying a steep price for this collective sin.

[musiclady]

Disco!  Bite your tongue!

So not "I Will Survive" either?? 

(I nail that one!)

[Victoria33]

Why?  What did we do?

@sinkspur

In short:  The country is now Sodom and Gomorrah and as in the days of Noah.  We are no longer a Christian country and the country is depraved.   

[roamer_1]

That alone is cause for severe punishment.
We are paying a steep price for this collective sin.

Justice has flown. It cannot be found until the most innocent among us receive it first.
It is nearly a mechanical result - A people who have so distorted justice in order to justify what is basically offering their children on the altar of moloch will inevitably destroy themselves.

[Sanguine]

So not "I Will Survive" either?? 

(I nail that one!)

LOL.  No, no Gloria Gaynor either.

[musiclady]

Justice has flown. It cannot be found until the most innocent among us receive it first.
It is nearly a mechanical result - A people who have so distorted justice in order to justify what is basically offering their children on the altar of moloch will inevitably destroy themselves.

The only way I can respond to that excellent post is to say, "AMEN!!"

[skeeter]

What does that even mean?  And you didn't answer the question.  What did we do that would cause God to rain down some adversity on us?

Is that really the kind of God you believe in?  We do something bad, He does something bad?

God is simply giving us what we say we want - a nation without His presence.

[sinkspur]

@sinkspur

In short:  The country is now Sodom and Gomorrah and as in the days of Noah.  We are no longer a Christian country and the country is depraved.

My mother used to say that 50 years ago. 

We're off topic so I'll bow out of this discussion.

[sinkspur]

God is simply giving us what we say we want - a nation without His presence.

Oh, I don't know about that.  I talk to Him every day.  He's here.  He's always here. 

[unknown]

As it has always been.  But that's a discussion for another day.

You brought it up. Then you don't want to discuss it?

[sinkspur]

You brought it up. Then you don't want to discuss it?

I didn't bring it up.  But it's off topic anyway.