Trump casts doubt on electoral system

[HonestJohn]

If they do, would be OK will killing fellow Americans??

They would.  If you listen to the rhetoric of the Trump campaign, it's "us versus them".  And the "us" is Trump and his supporters.  The "them" is foreigners and everyone that does not agree with "them".  When he talks about "making America Great Again", he's not talking about all Americans, just his supporters.

So I don't really think his supporters view anyone but themselves as American... or even as human beings, for that matter.

And that makes the abilty to kill very easy indeed. 

[Cripplecreek]

They would.  If you listen to the rhetoric of the Trump campaign, it's "us versus them".  And the "us" is Trump and his supporters.  The "them" is foreigners and everyone that does not agree with "them".  When he talks about "making Amewrica Great Again", he's not talking about all Americans, just his supporters.

So I don't really think his supporters view anyone but themselves as American... or even as human beings, for that matter.

And that makes the abilty to kill very easy indeed.

Yup.  I had someone threaten to take my head off with piano wire on Twitter first thing this morning.

The alt reich are such sweethearts.

In "The Language of the Third Reich" Victor Klemperer explains how the nazis used language to manipulate the german population into supporting nazi goals and eventually accepting the extermination of the Jews.

The German people weren't particularly antisemitic. In fact Germany was far less antisemitic than most of Europe which is why there were so many Jews there. The nazis faced considerable PR problems in how to deal with the thousands of Jewish Iron Cross holders from WWI who were seen as respected heroes. Hitler went long periods without mentioning Jews by name. Instead he often substituted the word "Jews" with "Bankers".

[Gov Bean Counter]

They would.  If you listen to the rhetoric of the Trump campaign, it's "us versus them".  And the "us" is Trump and his supporters.  The "them" is foreigners and everyone that does not agree with "them".  When he talks about "making Amewrica Great Again", he's not talking about all Americans, just his supporters.

So I don't really think his supporters view anyone but themselves as American... or even as human beings, for that matter.

And that makes the abilty to kill very easy indeed.

To hear him talk, I thought what he really wanted to do was...

Make America WASP Again!

[Luis Gonzalez]

Direct Democracy, A.K.A. Presidential elections by popular vote, which is what Trump is alluding to here, is the hallmark and cornerstone of Communism.

Without the Electoral College, every President would be elected by California, Texas, New York, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia and Michigan, so all campaigning and all pledges by candidates would be directed at the people of those States.

[GrouchoTex]

To hear him talk, I thought what he really wanted to do was...

Make America WASP Again!

 

As a WASP, and a male one to boot, I am highly offended by your remark.

I shall now retreat to my safe space, where I will commence watching reruns of "Ozzie and Harriet " and "Leave it to Beaver".
 
Let's "Make America Grate again".

[Gov Bean Counter]

As a WASP, and a male one to boot, I am highly offended by your remark.

I shall now retreat to my safe space, where I will commence watching reruns of "Ozzie and Harriet " and "Leave it to Beaver".
 
Let's "Make America Grate again".

 ^-^

[Wingnut]

As a WASP, and a male one to boot, I am highly offended by your remark.

I shall now retreat to my safe space, where I will commence watching reruns of "Ozzie and Harriet " and "Leave it to Beaver".
 
Let's "Make America Grate again".

FYI...
Ward was a little hard on the Beaver in last nights episode.

[GrouchoTex]

FYI...
Ward was a little hard on the Beaver in last nights episode.

 

Yeah, another great line from @Wingnut.
Thanks, amigo!

[Suppressed]

The orange New York liberal doesn't want to win.

If he's trying to support Hillary, why would he try to delegitimize a Hillary victory now?

[RetBobbyMI]

Trump has predicted at almost every rally this past week that the election could be "rigged" against him. He’s labeled the mounting polls showing him trailing Clinton as "phony" and warned that voter fraud could steal the election from him.
 
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So if I understand his antics, he is saying the constitution has rigged the system?

[Oceander]

So if I understand his antics, he is saying the constitution has rigged the system?

Wouldn't that be tantamount to saying the Founders rigged the system?

[RetBobbyMI]

Wouldn't that be tantamount to saying the Founders rigged the system?

Ya think?  There's a reason they stacked the deck the way they did.  They knew popularism doesn't necessarily choose the best candidate.

[Oceander]

Ya think?  There's a reason they stacked the deck the way they did.  They knew popularism doesn't necessarily choose the best candidate.

Exactly.  It always fascinates me when people start complaining about the inefficiencies in our system; those inefficiencies - at least those that are above and beyond normal bureaucratic inefficiency - was intentionally designed into the system as friction to protect the minority from the demagogues of the popular majority.

[Meshuge Mikey]

William Shakespeare...The Prophet!!!

[HonestJohn]

Exactly.  It always fascinates me when people start complaining about the inefficiencies in our system; those inefficiencies - at least those that are above and beyond normal bureaucratic inefficiency - was intentionally designed into the system as friction to protect the minority from the demagogues of the popular majority.

And a significant plurality of the GOP primary voter despises that.  Instead opining for their own king to rule them.

[GrouchoTex]

Exactly.  It always fascinates me when people start complaining about the inefficiencies in our system; those inefficiencies - at least those that are above and beyond normal bureaucratic inefficiency - was intentionally designed into the system as friction to protect the minority from the demagogues of the popular majority.

FWIW, Trump supporters will say he received more Republican primary votes than anyone before him.
They fail to mention that the total primary votes against him were greater.

[Victoria33]

This just proves what we've known all along:  Trump cannot be seen as a loser.  I still think there's a real possibility that, if he's down 10 after the first debate, he walks away.  He will, of course, be branded a cowardly loser, but he'll concoct some story that, in his mind and in the mind of his goofy supporters, justifies his exit.

@sinkspur
If he walks away, here will be his reason for doing it:
I read on this forum or somewhere else in the last couple of days, his company is losing money hand over fist.  Attendance has dropped at his public, fancy, get away places.  Think about it - how many Democrats would keep going to his high dollar places?  They wouldn't be caught dead now at one of his properties.

He will leave the election saying he must save his company for his grandchildren, that he can't afford to run the country while his great company needs him.  Money/power is his life and he is not about to sacrifice his company for this country that is full of people who don't appreciate him.  They deserve for him to leave them in the lurch.  That will show them and he will remain the King of the Hill on top of his tower in New York City. /s

[RetBobbyMI]

FWIW, Trump supporters will say he received more Republican primary votes than anyone before him.
They fail to mention that the total primary votes against him were greater.

And the RNC let the field delute the anti vote so they could get their orange Rhino-in-chief.

[RetBobbyMI]

@sinkspur
If he walks away, here will be his reason for doing it:
I read on this forum or somewhere else in the last couple of days, his company is losing money hand over fist.  Attendance has dropped at his public, fancy, get away places.  Think about it - how many Democrats would keep going to his high dollar places?  They wouldn't be caught dead now at one of his properties.

He will leave the election saying he must save his company for his grandchildren, that he can't afford to run the country while his great company needs him.  Money/power is his life and he is not about to sacrifice his company for this country that is full of people who don't appreciate him.  They deserve for him to leave them in the lurch.  That will show them and he will remain the King of the Hill on top of his tower in New York City. /s

Trump can walk away, do whatever, but it won't save the GOP, as it is doomed with or without Trump! 

[GrouchoTex]

And the RNC let the field delute the anti vote so they could get their orange Rhino-in-chief.

At the convention, the Trump folks cheered that lack of a roll call, thinking it stopped the anti-Trump vote. Little did they realize, it only strengthened the party apparatus, and that was a loss for them as well as those opposed to Trump, down the line.

[RetBobbyMI]

At the convention, the Trump folks cheered that lack of a roll call, thinking it stopped the anti-Trump vote. Little did they realize, it only strengthened the party apparatus, and that was a loss for them as well as those opposed to Trump, down the line.

These were the people that disliked the party machine in the first place and as you said turned around and gave them more strength the hang their hat on for the next cycle.  They will just make it another liberal loss to chalk up. The GOP and its strong armed brownshirts don't know anymore what conservatism is.

[txradioguy]

I'm seriously beginning to think that the true leader of the #nevertrump movement is actually Trump himself.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Well then I guess HIllary will have to wipe out Trumpy the clown with a 10% margin of victory, and electoral landslide.

Which is exactly what she seems to be doing...

[Right_in_Virginia]

The think they would but more likely they'd drop their weapons and surrender as soon as they realized that nobody was on their side.

Nah, @Cripplecreek I doubt they would surrender.  Why would they?  All they'd need do is draw you out of the basement and into the sunshine and then stand back and watch you melt.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Are any of you employed???