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The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« on: July 26, 2016, 01:00:21 am »
I k now many of you are not a Beck fan; but consider that Hannity, and Rush have been praising Trump; I posted this.  Beck is entirely correct. Trump is terrifying!

The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump’s Speech Didn’t Come From Trump

...Trump Nails the Problems Facing Americans I’ve told you for two years now, these are the problems:
 • I don’t feel like I belong to anything anymore.
 • I don’t feel like anybody’s listening to me.
 • I don’t have any levers of control in my own life.

 So reading that speech last night, Trump answered all three of those things. His whole speech was, “I know you don’t belong to anything because I’m an outsider too. I know you feel like you don’t belong.” What did Ivanka say? “I’m not a Republican. I’m not a Democrat.” “I feel like I don’t belong,” is what America is saying. I don’t belong to the Republican Party. I don’t belong to the Democratic Party. I don’t know if I belong even to this country anymore, because I don’t feel like anybody is speaking my language. So his whole speech, he says, “I know you feel you don’t belong, because I’m an outsider too. I’m not like these guys.” The next thing he says is, “I hear you. I hear you.” And he’s saying that almost with every single line where you’re like, “Damn right, somebody is finally saying it.” “I hear you.” It’s a brilliantly written speech. Those people who feel like they’re losing their country, losing their job, brilliantly written speech. “He hears me. And I don’t have any controls over my own life because there’s chaos and corruption in everything. I have no control.” This is the most important part of the speech last night. So I just told you the good things that I saw in the speech: I saw a speech that was written well, that understands the psyche of a portion of America, and a growing portion of America, that is mad, not listened to, disenfranchised, has no control over their lives, and wants it to stop. And I understand it because I feel that way too. History Repeats Itself I have studied history: American history, South American history, European history. I have specifically studied revolutions. You’ve known this because I’ve talked about it for 15 years. But I’ve always paid attention to the left, because the left is usually the revolutionary. But I told you early on, the pendulum swings, and you don’t want to give one side or the other this much power because when the pendulum swings and there is an event or chaos, someone will grab it. It just depends on who is in power.

 We MUST Stand Together In our own history, Woodrow Wilson, he rounded up the Germans and the Italians in World War I. Rounded them up. Put them in a concentration camp. It wasn’t FDR that was the first one. Wilson did it — 170,000 people. Then the Japanese in World War II. And it’s because they had, A) a problem with those people themselves, personally as presidents. And then, B) it was popular to be a nationalist, and they could say, “There’s something different about them,” and point to them. Extraordinarily dangerous, in our own history. It goes much worse in South America and in Europe. And I don’t think I need to use the examples.

Three Troubling Things About Trump’s Brilliant Speech Let me give you three things that he said that are bothersome.

1. “I am not going to let companies move to other countries, firing their employees along the way without consequences.” What the hell is that? That has nothing to do with our system. Zero. A president — a Congress cannot stop a company from moving outside of the United States. They cannot give them consequences for doing what’s right for themselves and their shareholders. We may not like it, but that is the free market.

 2. “Nobody knows the system better than me.” Now, what did he mean by that? He was talking about the corruption in politics. And he gave a funny face after it, because he was like, “Yeah, I played the game. I was the one pulling the strings of Hillary Clinton.” Okay, so he’s admitting that he was corrupt. And then he says something even more disturbing.

3. “I alone can fix it.” Here’s why this is disturbing: Donald Trump and his children — and look this up — they have been quoted several times as agreeing with the racehorse theory. This is a late 1800’s progressive medical viewpoint that is like crazy eugenics stuff. Nobody talks about the racehorse theory anymore. This is a step even above the racehorse theory. Thomas Carlyle is the guy who came up with what’s called the Great Man theory. And, again, this went to Nietzsche and Hegel. And the Great Man theory is: There are great men who come along, and they turn history. And by studying them, you begin to see your true nature. Now, it’s dicey because it can be twisted into progressivism and socialism and communism — collectivism, pretty easily. Carlyle admired Napolean and Muhammad and Luther. Hegel picked this up. Nietzsche used it. But this is a step beyond what Carlyle was even talking about.

I’m going to pull it all together and warn you in the strongest possible way to take a deep breath and look at what is right in front of you. Please listen to my warning. You can dismiss it all you want, but I have a responsibility to say it. And I hope that I’m wrong.

Bone-chilling and Terrifying


Last night, Donald Trump’s speech was bone-chilling and terrifying. I hope that I am wrong, but he is displaying all of the worst tendencies of a nationalist, populist, progressive candidate. And that historically in and out of America never works out well. I want you to go back, for those who have been with me — when we all thought it would come from the left — I told you,

 Warning
. You’re going to have to be very aware and know what your principles are, or you will be scooped up right along with it.” I told you that trouble would come from the inside, that the government would throw things into such disarray that people would be afraid and they would see trouble on their streets and they would cry out, “Good God, we need someone to stop it!” And there would come someone who would say, “Oh, I hear you. I hear you, and I will stop it for you.” Bottom-up, top-down, inside-out. I said that it would come from a national populist or a communist....

Source: http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/07/22/please-proceed-with-caution-you-dont-always-get-what-you-want-or-need/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20160725GlennBeckDaily_A&utm_term=Glenn%20Beck?utm_source=glennbeck&utm_medium=contentcopy_link
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 02:13:26 am »
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Warning. You’re going to have to be very aware and know what your principles are, or you will be scooped up right along with it. I told you that trouble would come from the inside, that the government would throw things into such disarray that people would be afraid and they would see trouble on their streets and they would cry out, “Good God, we need someone to stop it!” And there would come someone who would say, “Oh, I hear you. I hear you, and I will stop it for you.” Bottom-up, top-down, inside-out. I said that it would come from a national populist or a communist....

Beck is right! Our poor nation is about to burst open with demons sucking our souls at every juncture.

It's a good thing he fasts [he's mentioned it on different occasions], and encourages others to do so as well.
 
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“I alone can fix it.”

America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign. -Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2016, 02:16:08 am »
Beck is right! Our poor nation is about to burst open with demons sucking our souls at every juncture.

It's a good thing he fasts [he's mentioned it on different occasions], and encourages others to do so as well.
 


Excellent post and thanks for the picture!
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2016, 02:23:20 am »
Glenn Beck is a brilliant, informed man.

I caught some of his radio show today, and he had some other good insights.  I just wish I could recall them!!
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2016, 02:26:50 am »
Excellent post and thanks for the picture!

Thank you and you're welcome! The picture comes from the Twitter account of Neil Turner, a HUGE fan of Donald J. Trump. NT is believed to be a white supremacist, and DJT has retweeted him in the past.


https://twitter.com/NeilTurner_/status/757315831093223425
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2016, 02:50:06 am »
Beck is right! Our poor nation is about to burst open with demons sucking our souls at every juncture.

It's a good thing he fasts [he's mentioned it on different occasions], and encourages others to do so as well.
 


That image is disturbing on many levels. It looks like Trump's head was Photoshopped in? Does anyone know if this pic was based on some other image?
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2016, 03:22:26 am »
That image is disturbing on many levels. It looks like Trump's head was Photoshopped in? Does anyone know if this pic was based on some other image?

Yes...it's a sick ripoff of Peace is Coming, by Jon McNaughton.

http://jonmcnaughton.com/giclee-peace-is-coming-12-x-18-oe-signed-by-artist/

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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2016, 03:31:26 am »
That image is disturbing on many levels. It looks like Trump's head was Photoshopped in? Does anyone know if this pic was based on some other image?
Here's some additional information regarding the image:

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http://www.theflama.com/theres-donald-trump-fan-art-and-its-really-very-sad-1550458117.html

The 4chan image boards, which gave the world lolcats, Rickrolling and the Anonymous hackers group, are home to some of the strangest and most disturbing images on the web. That includes its politics forum /pol/, which was recently linked to acts of racial violence and has allegedly become an incubator for hate groups.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, many of its posters have built a sort of cult around Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump complete with fan art. We waded into the board's depths to uncover the "best" of what Trump fans have to offer. It's not much...
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2016, 05:49:07 am »
Poor Glenn. What a mentally deranged soul!
I will keep him in prayers   :0001:
« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 05:49:35 am by R4 TrumPence »


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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2016, 06:45:19 am »
Poor Glenn. What a mentally deranged soul!
I will keep him in prayers   :0001:

Your message got cut off.  Please repost the factual rebuttal part.

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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2016, 08:13:07 am »
Yes...it's a sick ripoff of Peace is Coming, by Jon McNaughton.

So the white supremacist cut out the Jew's head and replaced it with Trump's?  Interesting.
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2016, 08:33:01 am »
Your message got cut off.  Please repost the factual rebuttal part.

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Excuse me? That is it. Less words the better.  That pretty much says it all!


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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2016, 11:10:31 am »
This was a political speech, and Trump is a salesman. He hit all the hot buttons as expected from a good salesman.

On July 26, 2016 no one, including Trump, has any idea how he will react to any situation as President Trump. I hope he cares more about the future of the United States than he does about popularity in the next fifteen minutes.

Even in his most egregious, professional wrestler campaign style he has never said a single thing as frightening or ominous for the future of this country as what you hear every day in the clinton camp or the Sanders camp or from Obama or Kerry or the rest of the litany of our fearless leaders.

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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2016, 11:27:56 am »
Excuse me? That is it. Less words the better.  That pretty much says it all!

Actually it pretty much says nothing at all.  Beck presents a very logical, thoughtful, and intellectual case against Trump.  When you attack the messenger without taking on the message, you have already lost the debate.

« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 11:28:17 am by Just_Victor »
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2016, 12:29:22 pm »
Poor Glenn. What a mentally deranged soul!
I will keep him in prayers   :0001:

Amen brother.

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He is making hay while the sun shines without regard to anything else.

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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2016, 04:42:49 pm »
Actually it pretty much says nothing at all.  Beck presents a very logical, thoughtful, and intellectual case against Trump.  When you attack the messenger without taking on the message, you have already lost the debate.
People wonder how Trump will run an ad campaign without funds.

His followers have it covered....

They already run an Ad Hominem campaign.
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2016, 04:54:29 pm »
Poor Glenn. What a mentally deranged soul!
I will keep him in prayers   :0001:

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That's either mental derangement or implied Fascism.

Which is it?
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2016, 04:54:39 pm »
People wonder how Trump will run an ad campaign without funds.

His followers have it covered....

They already run an Ad Hominem campaign.

Ridicule is Trump's primary debate technique.  It's no surprise that his supporters mimic his behavior.
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2016, 05:03:40 pm »
Excuse me? That is it. Less words the better.  That pretty much says it all!
Facts we don't need no steenking facts.

Which bring us to the Trumpsplaining tatic of the day:
Ad Hominem. If you can't out argue the messenger just shoot him on 5th Ave.
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2016, 05:21:16 pm »
Your message got cut off.  Please repost the factual rebuttal part.

Thanks!

I think i may be Ted Cruz' biggest supporter here (helped him with his first campaign) , but some of Beck's antics during the campaign were  cringe-worthy

as a start.....

1.  Mock campaign event Swearing  Cruz into office.
2.  Inferring harming Trump physically.  I understand he even got a Secret Service contact.
3.  Fasting event for Cruz  in Oral Roberts fashion.....


I actually think Beck did more damage than good for our candidate.
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2016, 05:22:51 pm »
I think i may be Ted Cruz' biggest supporter here (helped him with his first campaign) , but some of Beck's antics during the campaign were  cringe-worthy

as a start.....

1.  Mock campaign event Swearing  Cruz into office.
2.  Inferring harming Trump physically.  I understand he even got a Secret Service contact.
3.  Fasting event for Cruz  in Oral Roberts fashion.....


I actually think Beck did more damage than good for our candidate.


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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2016, 05:44:56 pm »
I think i may be Ted Cruz' biggest supporter here (helped him with his first campaign) , but some of Beck's antics during the campaign were  cringe-worthy

as a start.....

1.  Mock campaign event Swearing  Cruz into office.
2.  Inferring harming Trump physically.  I understand he even got a Secret Service contact.
3.  Fasting event for Cruz  in Oral Roberts fashion.....

I actually think Beck did more damage than good for our candidate.

The fasting "event" was unusual for some I suppose, but fasting itself is one of the best ways to get anything [good] done through/with the Lord. After hearing Beck's plan, I fasted for ten weeks off sugar, and while that doesn't seem like much on paper, it is for someone who regularly has sugar every day. [I think Beck can be very inspiring.] And Beck's true heart can usually be seen through his eccentricities as well.

And we don't really know for certain; the fasting everyone did may have helped Ted speak at the convention.
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2016, 05:49:36 pm »
The fasting "event" was unusual for some I suppose, but fasting itself is one of the best ways to get anything [good] done through/with the Lord. After hearing Beck's plan, I fasted for ten weeks off sugar, and while that doesn't seem like much on paper, it is for someone who regularly has sugar every day. [I think Beck can be very inspiring.] And Beck's true heart can usually be seen through his eccentricities as well.

And we don't really know for certain; the fasting everyone did may have helped Ted speak at the convention.

Fasting for health or spiritual reasons is a fine personal choice, but making it a publicity event is another.

We agree on 99.999% on everything else at TBR, so I guess in this case we'll agree to disagree.    :seeya:
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2016, 05:52:27 pm »
The fasting "event" was unusual for some I suppose, but fasting itself is one of the best ways to get anything [good] done through/with the Lord. After hearing Beck's plan, I fasted for ten weeks off sugar, and while that doesn't seem like much on paper, it is for someone who regularly has sugar every day. [I think Beck can be very inspiring.] And Beck's true heart can usually be seen through his eccentricities as well.

And we don't really know for certain; the fasting everyone did may have helped Ted speak at the convention.
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Re: The Most Terrifying Thing About Trump's Speech
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2016, 05:53:45 pm »
Fasting for health or spiritual reasons is a fine personal choice, but making it a publicity event is another.

We agree on 99.999% on everything else at TBR, so I guess in this case we'll agree to disagree.    :seeya:

I won't quote the Bible here, we all know the passage, but the way I was raised, if anyone knows you're fasting, you're doing it wrong.

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