There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary

[JustPassinThru]

Another Tub-Thumpers-For-Trump thread.

When I am shown the SIGNIFICANT WAYS in which Trump would be BETTER than Her Canklesness,  I will hold my nose and vote.

UNTIL THEN:

My beliefs have been mocked.  Those who support what I support have been IGNORED by Trump and his minions.

The one who best represents my views, aims and preferences has been mercilessly, repeatedly slandered by the loud, dishonest NeYawk graft-bagman.

Is he less of a tool for foreign agents than Her Hillaryness?  Maybe.  His very SANITY is in question in my mind - after his deranged speech on Friday.

What is there to choose from?  We're done.  Only several visits from the Grim Reaper can save us from this team of unhinged elitist garbage.

[Silver Pines]

On my next trip to the neighborhood restaurant (gasthaus), I was invited to sit at the stammtische, a table reserved for family and close friends of the family.

It's an honor I cherish to this day. Talk to anyone who's lived in Germany, and they'll tell you it's unheard of for an American GI to occupy a place at that table.

O/T, the special feeling I have for Germany, specifically Traben-Trarbach (Mosel River) and Lutjenburg (northern Germany) remains to this day. Though I don't dwell on the past, the memories of those years are filled with joy, and have helped me weather the storms in my life.

Serving in 6th Battalion, 56th ADA () was a truly unique experience. My first battery at Hahn AB, was over 40 miles from Battalion HQ. To say we were on our own was an understatement. Fast forward a few years, and my last assignment was as the Battalion Supply Officer (S-4), with an area of operations that was roughly 1200 square miles, as we were tasked with the airbase defense of Hahn, Spangdahlem, and Bitburg air bases. I knew the area like the back of my hand, as I spent a good portion of my tour on the road. I averaged 36K miles per year. During my 2+ years at Spangdahlem at Bn HQ, my daily commute was 30 miles each way. It was so worth it, as my drive home took me through Urzig, a glorious sight on a clear day:



I was uniquely qualified for that role, if you combine my experiences as a Platoon Leader, Maintenance Officer, XO, and Property Book Officer, with my degree in Public Accounting.

Regarding Lutjenburg, a small town about an hour east of Kiel, I spent a summer as the XO for a support detachment at a German anti-aircraft range. I made so many friends during that summer, that I'd spend an occasional long weekend there, when the opportunity arose. Although it was 400 miles from my apartment, most of the drive was autobahn, and it took 5 hours.

Beautiful scenery.  I can understand why you have such warm memories of Germany and its people.

[txradioguy]

On my next trip to the neighborhood restaurant (gasthaus), I was invited to sit at the stammtische, a table reserved for family and close friends of the family.

It's an honor I cherish to this day. Talk to anyone who's lived in Germany, and they'll tell you it's unheard of for an American GI to occupy a place at that table.

O/T, the special feeling I have for Germany, specifically Traben-Trarbach (Mosel River) and Lutjenburg (northern Germany) remains to this day. Though I don't dwell on the past, the memories of those years are filled with joy, and have helped me weather the storms in my life.

Serving in 6th Battalion, 56th ADA () was a truly unique experience. My first battery at Hahn AB, was over 40 miles from Battalion HQ. To say we were on our own was an understatement. Fast forward a few years, and my last assignment was as the Battalion Supply Officer (S-4), with an area of operations that was roughly 1200 square miles, as we were tasked with the airbase defense of Hahn, Spangdahlem, and Bitburg air bases. I knew the area like the back of my hand, as I spent a good portion of my tour on the road. I averaged 36K miles per year. During my 2+ years at Spangdahlem at Bn HQ, my daily commute was 30 miles each way. It was so worth it, as my drive home took me through Urzig, a glorious sight on a clear day:



I was uniquely qualified for that role, if you combine my experiences as a Platoon Leader, Maintenance Officer, XO, and Property Book Officer, with my degree in Public Accounting.

Regarding Lutjenburg, a small town about an hour east of Kiel, I spent a summer as the XO for a support detachment at a German anti-aircraft range. I made so many friends during that summer, that I'd spend an occasional long weekend there, when the opportunity arose. Although it was 400 miles from my apartment, most of the drive was autobahn, and it took 5 hours.

Ironically I fly out of Hahn all the time now.

Except its on Ryanair

[sinkspur]

Well, If Hillary wins,  this may be the last time you ever enter a voting booth  Hillary is a TRAITOR.

That didn't work the first time it was proposed and it won't work now. 

If you want Trump, you elect him.

[EasyAce]

Yep, "None of These Candidates," which is a ballot option in my state, just keeps looking
better and better every day.

Cyanide vs. hemlock.

Firing squad vs. lethal injection.

Garroting vs. a bullet in the head.

In the immortal words of Paul Richards (general manager for the newborn Houston franchise, surveying
the list of players made available to themselves and the newborn Mets in the first National League expansion
draft---yes, children, time was when the Astros-to-be, born the Colt 45s, were a National League team),
"[Ladies and] gentlemen, we've just been f@cked."

[beandog]

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?  Is your anger with the GOP enough of a reason to change our courts into unconstitutional bastions of globalism for the next 50 years and lose another generation to socialism?

Just askin'  ^-^

I'm not angry at the GOP, I'm disgusted by the phoney 40% of so called "conservaties" who voted for this mental patient in the primaries.  Unllike most NT though, I want the Donald to win.  It'll be like an extended Christmas.  First when the Rats cry about losing and then when the Donald goes on to further destroy the lives of his supporters.  That'll be like Christmas and my Birthday all wrapped into one.  Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and the Donald will end up committed and we'll get Pence.  He's the best out of all the possibilities.

[Night Hides Not]

Ironically I fly out of Hahn all the time now.

Except its on Ryanair

I'm jealous. I'm sure it's changed from what I remember of it. Fond memories of Friday nights at Herr Barden's in Loffelscheid. Best jagerschnitzel I ever ate. Don't miss the weather, though: usually gray, damp, cold, wet.

[Hoodat]

There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary

Then why pick the only candidate who will?

[geronl]

Vote your conscience.

  It will all depend on whether Trump is viable here on that particular day.

I don't care if Trump is viable (or violable) and needs my vote, he'll never get it

[beandog]

Allow me to repost:

*Ring, ring. Ring, Ring.*

"Hello?"

"Yes, this is an MSNBC poll. Do you prefer Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump for president?"

"Um, neither. I won't vote for either. I think I may vote for Gary Johnson."

"Right, we'll just put that down as a supporting Hillary, then. Thanks for your time. Goodbye!"

"Hey! Wait..."

*click*

(Your thought process is as corrupt as this poll would be.)

First of all, I'd never answer a poll by MSNBC and second why do I care what MSNBC thinks or says.  Following polls is for the weak minded and easily led.

[Night Hides Not]

I'm not angry at the GOP, I'm disgusted by the phoney 40% of so called "conservaties" who voted for this mental patient in the primaries.  Unllike most NT though, I want the Donald to win.  It'll be like an extended Christmas.  First when the Rats cry about losing and then when the Donald goes on to further destroy the lives of his supporters.  That'll be like Christmas and my Birthday all wrapped into one.  Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and the Donald will end up committed and we'll get Pence.  He's the best out of all the possibilities.

As a Tea Partier, I AM angry at the GOP. We gave them the House in 2010, and little was done to stop Obama. We gave them the Senate in 2014, and all of the Turtle's promises were nothing more than flatulence. The Texas Congressional delegation, with a few exceptions (Cruz, Gohmert) has been co-opted by Boehner and Ryan.

I am now a true RINO. I'm maintaining my registration so that I may continue to vote for Ted and other conservatives in succeeding primaries. My representative, Kenny Marchant, has faded into oblivion. Last time I checked, his grade at Conservative Review was a low B. Reps like Burgess, Henserling, Sessions, et al are in the C-F range.

Mike McFaul, rumored to be looking at Ted's seat in 2018 had best get his thing together. Having an F rating from Conservative Review won't serve him well in the next primary.

[INVAR]

There is nothing honorable about continuing to bash and castigate Americans whom were told their vote was not wanted, nor needed - because Trump would win without us.

There is nothing honorable about demagoguing and insulting Americans who refuse to genuflect a NY Liberal Democrat running as a Republican for President.

There is nothing honorable about attempting to shame Americans by blaming them for all the woes they insist they will be responsible for if Hillary "wins" because they won't vote Trump.

There is nothing honorable about a party and a delegation that boos the Constitution, applauds deviancy and big government and continues the politics of personal destruction during a General Election.

There is nothing honorable about abandoning your principles and values to vote for a cult of personality out of fear of the other, who has provided absolutely no evidence he will uphold the very things you abandoned to support him.

There is nothing honorable about a party and a rabid base of fanatics who threaten fellow party members with ruin, punishment and death for refusing to endorse and support their prince.

There is nothing honorable about Trump.

There is nothing honorable about the Republican Party.

The HONORABLE thing to do is to vote your conscience and support those who have the fruits and have the creds of an actual Constitutional Conservative.

[beandog]

The thing is, I'm used to the GOP screwing us and have long ago given up on counting on them to do the right thing.  On the other hand I actually had a higher opinion of so called "conservatives".  I thought they were smarter than Obama supporters.  It has been hard for me to come to terms with the fact that I allowed myself to be, once again, fooled by people I thought better of.  It has come as a huge shock that tRump supporters are actually worse than Obama supporters.

It won't happen again.

[Hoodat]

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?

You've got it backwards.   It is Trump supporters who are operating out of anger and fear here.  It is Trump supporters whose desire for revenge overrode our desire for righteousness.  And it is the Trump supporters who have now put our country in jeopardy by rejecting Conservatism in favor of a Democrat establishment bully who happened to change clothes but still spouts the same old garbage.

Is your anger with the GOP enough of a reason to change our courts into unconstitutional bastions of globalism for the next 50 years .  .  .

Hold it right there.  If you actually did give a damn about the Courts, then you would have crawled through broken glass to vote for a former solicitor general who had actually fought in the trenches, and who made the court issue a principal pillar of his campaign.  But you didn't care.  You wanted revenge instead.

.  .  . and lose another generation to socialism?

Your candidate supports socialism.  Government will be the answer to all your problems once Trump is in charge.  Health care?  The government's gonna pay for it.  Child care?  Trump will cover that too.  And Mexico's gonna pay for it.

Let me clue you in.  Instead of your pathetic attempts at scaring us to vote for Trump, why not instead come up with something positive about him instead  - something that is actually true instead of made up.

Let's start with something simple.  Try coming up with an issue, any issue, where Trump is more Conservative than where Mitt Romney was four years ago.  Give Conservatives a reason to vote for Trump, instead of voting against him and Hillary both.  Fair enough?

[EasyAce]

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?

For many of us, it isn't just outrage with the Republican Party. For many of us, it's outrage that a country
gave us no better choice than Donaldus Minimus and Hilarious Rodent Clinton. Two bulls in the national china
shop whose entire public lives have given us every indication that, to them, the first recourse of problem solving
is government, never mind that government is neither competent nor constitutionally assigned to solve about
80-85 percent of human problems; that government is everything and the individual is nothing; that government
even then exists for their own purpose first and any other citizen's, anywhere from second to last; and, that the
power of government begins with the White House and all else is subordinate to that.

How often was it said during the primary campaigns that the house is burning? I lost count. So what does
the country do, whether it's by way of gaggles of Republicans (actual, alleged, or last-minute party switching
on behalf of making mischief) hoisting up Donaldus Minimus or a gaggle of Democratic National Committeeman-
persons stacking the deck for Hilarious Rodent Clinton? Offer us a choice of arsonists to fight the fire.

I say again: I thank God for the "None of These Candidates" option in my state.

How about some anger that a country created by the like of Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Jay, Hamilton,
Franklin, Morris, Adams, Dickinson, and Hancock, and Henry, "evolved" to offer us nothing better than
the dregs named Donaldus Minimus and Hilarious Rodent Clinton? If that's the choice the country
wants, the country can have it---just don't ask me to consecrate it.

Albert Jay Nock, "Isaiah's Job"

[geronl]

I say again: I thank God for the "None of These Candidates" option in my state.

does it allow you to vote straight party ticket EXCEPT for President? Because that would be a good option.

[EasyAce]

does it allow you to vote straight party ticket EXCEPT for President? Because that would be a good option.

You get that choice for the White House and for state offices including U.S. senators and representatives.

[EC]

"There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary"

That's OK. Trump is not honorable.

And before you splutter, I told you Trump would lose if he got the nomination and why - back in October.

[roamer_1]

You've got it backwards.   It is Trump supporters who are operating out of anger and fear here.  It is Trump supporters whose desire for revenge overrode our desire for righteousness.  And it is the Trump supporters who have now put our country in jeopardy by rejecting Conservatism in favor of a Democrat establishment bully who happened to change clothes but still spouts the same old garbage.

That's exactly right.

There is nothing Conservative about voting for Trump - There is not a single Conservative position that he can be defended upon, which is why no one ever tries.

To throw Conservatism out the window is certainly not something any true Conservative will do - It's not mere philosophy to us... It's our way of life.

Which brings to mind the point of the exercise - So called 'conservatives' willing to vote for trump cannot be Conservatives, by the very nature of Conservatism. Or they are being governed by fear, anger, or some other emotional compromise... Which again, btw, is not a Conservative method or value.

There is no honor at all beyond standing firm upon that which you believe in. Period. Trying to gerrymander any other position is craven on it's face.

[ABX]

[GtHawk]

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?  Is your anger with the GOP enough of a reason to change our courts into unconstitutional bastions of globalism for the next 50 years and lose another generation to socialism?

Just askin'  ^-^

This is a false narrative, as Perry Mason would say it presents facts not in evidence. With so many seats up for election this cycle, the odds are that the dems would swing back into the majority(as if it would make a difference), so even if we could trust Trump to keep his word, it is highly unlikely that a truly Conservative jurist would ever be confirmed. It is much more likely that the Trump the dealmaker would settle for a jurist only moderately conservative(small c) and then crow about his ability to work with the democrats.

[Night Hides Not]

The thing is, I'm used to the GOP screwing us and have long ago given up on counting on them to do the right thing.  On the other hand I actually had a higher opinion of so called "conservatives".  I thought they were smarter than Obama supporters.  It has been hard for me to come to terms with the fact that I allowed myself to be, once again, fooled by people I thought better of.  It has come as a huge shock that tRump supporters are actually worse than Obama supporters.

It won't happen again.

Don't beat yourself up. After the 2006 mid-terms, I realized I had been fooled by Dubya and his minions, and felt embarrassed by supporting him in discussions with friends, family, and chat rooms.

Then Bush went into full lame duck mode, and left DC without any apparent remorse for the mess he left behind. As far as he was concerned, he did nothing wrong.

[GtHawk]

The Trump supporters are as inconsistent as their leader. They don't need us, they need us, they don't need us, they need us, they don't need us, they need us. It's like watching a high speed tennis match, and achieves the same result.............a massive headache.

[LMAO]

The article posted can be summarized to say the following...

"To all those conservatives who hold on to your principles and believe in the Constitution, your beliefs are cute but naive and stupid and you need to grow up and change.


Now go out and vote for Trump."

[mlizzy]

I don't want either Clinton or Trump as our next President. One's irredeemably corrupt, the other's existentially dangerous.     

Remain hopeful; there's still plenty of time to get hit by an asteroid.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/world/asteroid-day-impact-irpt/

Asteroids could threaten Earth, scientists say
By Jareen Imam, CNN
Updated 5:08 PM ET, Wed June 29, 2016

On Thursday, talks, seminars and movies about asteroids will take place around the world. The goal is to increase awareness about these giant rocky objects, Asteroid Day co-founder Grigorij Richters told CNN.

"This year we really got some solid support from the space agencies. NASA and everyone is on board. We're doing more than ever before," said Richters, who founded Asteroid Day with astrophysicist Brian May -- yes, the guitarist for Queen -- and three others.

More than a million asteroids have the potential to hit Earth, but in spite of our technology scientists have only discovered one percent of these space rocks, according to Asteroid Day's website.

[emphasis; mine]

Any ol' excuse to post "Bohemian Rhapsody" !! ^-^


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ