There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary

[Right_in_Virginia]

There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary
American Thinker, July 25, 2016, Karin McQuillan

In 2008 we had John McCain, who was too honorable to criticize Barack Hussein Obama.  In 2012 we had Mitt Romney who again was too honorable to attack our first black President.  Now we have Ted  Cruz who is too honorable to honor his pledge of party unity, too honorable to protect our Supreme Court from Hillary’s potential nominees, and too honorable to help us win.  We have all the Libertarians, so honorable they have a shot at throwing the election to Hillary. 

We have a whole list of conservative pundits and websites, who could swallow the GOP betraying all their 2012 pledges, doubling our national debt and increasing entitlements, without a word about bolting the party, but Trump’s crude, honest talk is too much for their honor to bear?

We have Paul Ryan who is so honorable he has to rush to the microphones and join the media lynch mob criticizing Trump as racist, while the Dems’ race-baiting over 8 years has gotten a pass.  Ryan’s priority is to protect his own, oh so honorable brand, as a compassionate conservative, superior to the voters as well as Trump.

There is nothing honorable about choosing to lose.

There is nothing honorable about betraying your voters, who picked Trump because all those honorable leaders have been lying to us for years.  They pretend to support enforcing our immigration laws when they have no intention of doing so.  They pretend to be serious about the jihadi threat, while letting millions of sharia-supporting Muslims into our country.  They pretend to be fixing things in the Middle East, while giving the Gulf sheikdoms free rein to turn American mosques into jihadi propaganda centers.  They pretend to be serious about jobs, while refusing to confront the Chinese on currency manipulation.  They pretend to love America, but not enough to protect it from the PC onslaught on our constitutional rights.

Note to all you honorable liars and losers:  the voters are sick of you.  We want someone on our side and someone who will to fight to win.  That’s why Trump was nominated.

Ted Cruz – the honorable thing was to put your personal anger at Trump’s dirty fighting aside.  Yes, he called your wife and father mean, ugly things, completely reprehensible. That’s more important to your conscience than a Hillary Supreme Court?  You told the convention, “And citizens are furious — rightly furious — at a political establishment that cynically breaks its promises and that ignores the will of the people.”  You were talking about yourself, Ted.  You were in the very act of ignoring the voters who elected Trump, not you, and breaking your promise to support the nominee.   And you have the hypocrisy to label that principled.

Message to all you so very honorable constitutional conservatives:  Trump is a far better constitutional candidate than anyone we’ve had a chance to vote for since Reagan, who also had his flaws.  Without borders, we have no country and no rule of law, both of which are prerequisites to a constitutionally limited government.  Think you’re going to get smaller government with amnesty and open borders?   

So Trump doesn’t make beautiful intellectual speeches about liberty.  He’s going to protect freedom of speech, religion and the 2nd Amendment, all of which are eroding by the week under progressive misrule.

So Trump isn’t pledging entitlement reform?  He does recognize the need to rein in government over-regulation, so crucial to both liberty and prosperity.  He will get rid of the Common Core federal take-over of education, with its curriculum designed to wipe out American values and love of country among our children.  He will take on special interests such as the environmental lobby, which has hobbled our energy sector, and limited growth.  These are not small improvements.

Hillary will finish destroying everything you hold dear.  Trump will not just hold the line, he will advance it.

It’s nonsense that Trump is a horror, but that Hillary is worse.  Trump gets the basics.

Which is far more than can be said of all you honorable men.



http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/there_is_nothing_honorable_about_losing_to_hillary.html#ixzz4FQ51xe3F

[Right_in_Virginia]

Hillary will finish destroying everything you hold dear.  Trump will not just hold the line, he will advance it.

Worth repeating.

[massadvj]

Vote your conscience.

If I lived in a blue state where there was no chance Hillary could lose (eg, California), I would definitely withhold my vote for Trump.  Ditto if I lived in a purely red state where Trump needs no help (eg, Alabama).  But, unfortunately I live in battleground Pennsylvania, and that means I will have to wait until I actually step into the voting booth before I decide what to do.  It will all depend on whether Trump is viable here on that particular day.

I still hold out hope that Gary Johnson can get included in the debates and make this a three-way race. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Vote your conscience.

If I lived in a blue state where there was no chance Hillary could lose (eg, California), I would definitely withhold my vote for Trump.  Ditto if I lived in a purely red state where Trump needs no help (eg, Alabama).  But, unfortunately I live in battleground Pennsylvania, and that means I will have to wait until I actually step into the voting booth before I decide what to do.  It will all depend on whether Trump is viable here on that particular day.

So, is it safe to say you find honor in losing to Hillary Clinton?

[Suppressed]

There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary

Yes, choosing Trump was a terribly dishonorable move by the GOP.

[txradioguy]

So, is it safe to say you find honor in losing to Hillary Clinton?

There is no honor in voting for Trump either.

It's a losing scenario for the entire country either way.

[massadvj]

So, is it safe to say you find honor in losing to Hillary Clinton?

I do not, which is the only reason I am keeping my powder dry.  But I see no reason to commit my vote until I know whether Trump is going to be viable in my state.

[txradioguy]

The Trump pushers have been very dishonorable by booing the statement "Vote your conscience."  They want punishment for dissenters.  How completely dishonorable.  They have chosen a flip-flopping scammer who is a bully and a narcissist.  How dishonorable.  They have chosen a pathologically vindictive egomaniac.  How utterly dishonorable.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yes, choosing Trump was a terribly dishonorable move by the GOP.

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?  Is your anger with the GOP enough of a reason to change our courts into unconstitutional bastions of globalism for the next 50 years and lose another generation to socialism?

Just askin'  ^-^

[Right_in_Virginia]

I do not, which is the only reason I am keeping my powder dry.  But I see no reason to commit my vote until I know whether Trump is going to be viable in my state.

Okay, thanks.

[txradioguy]

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?  Is your anger with the GOP enough of a reason to change our courts into unconstitutional bastions of globalism for the next 50 years and lose another generation to socialism?

Just askin'  ^-^

Why do you keep pushing this false narrative that Trump will do anything different with the courts than Hillary will?

Why are you so willing to support a candidate who is so willing to destroy the things the GOP was founded on and has stood for since 1856?

[Henry Noel]

There's something very honorable about not voting for a scumbucket like Trump.
 

[Jazzhead]

So, is it safe to say you find honor in losing to Hillary Clinton?

I don't want either Clinton or Trump as our next President.   One's irredeemably corrupt, the other's existentially dangerous.   

This is your election to win or lose, Trumpsters.   I want no part of you, or your candidate.   

[sinkspur]

Note to all you honorable liars and losers:  the voters are sick of you.  We want someone on our side and someone who will to fight to win.  That’s why Trump was nominated.

Then you win with him.  Or did you not think this through?  Is your only recourse to insult me and those who cannot vote for a mental patient?

[NavyCanDo]

Vote your conscience.

If I lived in a blue state where there was no chance Hillary could lose (eg, California), I would definitely withhold my vote for Trump.  Ditto if I lived in a purely red state where Trump needs no help (eg, Alabama).  But, unfortunately I live in battleground Pennsylvania, and that means I will have to wait until I actually step into the voting booth before I decide what to do.  It will all depend on whether Trump is viable here on that particular day.

I still hold out hope that Gary Johnson can get included in the debates and make this a three-way race.

I do live in a Blue State (WA) where there was no chance Hillary could lose, so I will be voting my conscience.   But tell me why can't this be Kaine Vs. Pence, where we wouldn't have this moral dilemma?  how did we get stuck with these two clowns and most unpopular candidates, Hillary and Trump?

[Slide Rule]

This post needs a reread.

Not voting for Trump is a Clinton vote.  And with the recent email release of DNC communications and the
anticipated State Department email release, firm ground to deny Trump is even less.

And by the way, despite Cruz presence at the RNC, and despite my request to remove Cruz from Pookie
Toons, I would support him as a Supreme. And maybe Trump would too.  Because Cruz would be an
outstanding candidate, strong constitutionalist and that would remove Cruz from his current distractions

Time to man up.  Vote Trump!

There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary
American Thinker, July 25, 2016, Karin McQuillan

In 2008 we had John McCain, who was too honorable to criticize Barack Hussein Obama.  In 2012 we had Mitt Romney who again was too honorable to attack our first black President.  Now we have Ted  Cruz who is too honorable to honor his pledge of party unity, too honorable to protect our Supreme Court from Hillary’s potential nominees, and too honorable to help us win.  We have all the Libertarians, so honorable they have a shot at throwing the election to Hillary. 

We have a whole list of conservative pundits and websites, who could swallow the GOP betraying all their 2012 pledges, doubling our national debt and increasing entitlements, without a word about bolting the party, but Trump’s crude, honest talk is too much for their honor to bear?

We have Paul Ryan who is so honorable he has to rush to the microphones and join the media lynch mob criticizing Trump as racist, while the Dems’ race-baiting over 8 years has gotten a pass.  Ryan’s priority is to protect his own, oh so honorable brand, as a compassionate conservative, superior to the voters as well as Trump.

There is nothing honorable about choosing to lose.

There is nothing honorable about betraying your voters, who picked Trump because all those honorable leaders have been lying to us for years.  They pretend to support enforcing our immigration laws when they have no intention of doing so.  They pretend to be serious about the jihadi threat, while letting millions of sharia-supporting Muslims into our country.  They pretend to be fixing things in the Middle East, while giving the Gulf sheikdoms free rein to turn American mosques into jihadi propaganda centers.  They pretend to be serious about jobs, while refusing to confront the Chinese on currency manipulation.  They pretend to love America, but not enough to protect it from the PC onslaught on our constitutional rights.

Note to all you honorable liars and losers:  the voters are sick of you.  We want someone on our side and someone who will to fight to win.  That’s why Trump was nominated.

Ted Cruz – the honorable thing was to put your personal anger at Trump’s dirty fighting aside.  Yes, he called your wife and father mean, ugly things, completely reprehensible. That’s more important to your conscience than a Hillary Supreme Court?  You told the convention, “And citizens are furious — rightly furious — at a political establishment that cynically breaks its promises and that ignores the will of the people.”  You were talking about yourself, Ted.  You were in the very act of ignoring the voters who elected Trump, not you, and breaking your promise to support the nominee.   And you have the hypocrisy to label that principled.

Message to all you so very honorable constitutional conservatives:  Trump is a far better constitutional candidate than anyone we’ve had a chance to vote for since Reagan, who also had his flaws.  Without borders, we have no country and no rule of law, both of which are prerequisites to a constitutionally limited government.  Think you’re going to get smaller government with amnesty and open borders?   

So Trump doesn’t make beautiful intellectual speeches about liberty.  He’s going to protect freedom of speech, religion and the 2nd Amendment, all of which are eroding by the week under progressive misrule.

So Trump isn’t pledging entitlement reform?  He does recognize the need to rein in government over-regulation, so crucial to both liberty and prosperity.  He will get rid of the Common Core federal take-over of education, with its curriculum designed to wipe out American values and love of country among our children.  He will take on special interests such as the environmental lobby, which has hobbled our energy sector, and limited growth.  These are not small improvements.

Hillary will finish destroying everything you hold dear.  Trump will not just hold the line, he will advance it.

It’s nonsense that Trump is a horror, but that Hillary is worse.  Trump gets the basics.

Which is far more than can be said of all you honorable men.



http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/there_is_nothing_honorable_about_losing_to_hillary.html#ixzz4FQ51xe3F

[Jazzhead]

I get it, you're angry with the GOP and deeply disappointed.  But must you take that anger out on the whole of the nation and its future?  Is your anger with the GOP enough of a reason to change our courts into unconstitutional bastions of globalism for the next 50 years and lose another generation to socialism?

Just askin'  ^-^

You guys wanted this neo-fascist,  a man so unfit and dangerous for the job that a majority of the conservatives on this site won't support him.

What were you thinking?  Were you even thinking at all, or just lashing out, in spite, at those of us who preferred Cruz, or Kasich, or Rubio?     Trump's now out there appealing to the Sanders voters - that's who you should be allying with, if you want to keep Clinton from the White House. 

   

[sinkspur]

Trump gets the basics.

I can train my dog in the basics of not pissing in the house, but I wouldn't vote for him for president.

[Jazzhead]

Vote your conscience.

If I lived in a blue state where there was no chance Hillary could lose (eg, California), I would definitely withhold my vote for Trump.  Ditto if I lived in a purely red state where Trump needs no help (eg, Alabama).  But, unfortunately I live in battleground Pennsylvania, and that means I will have to wait until I actually step into the voting booth before I decide what to do.  It will all depend on whether Trump is viable here on that particular day.

I still hold out hope that Gary Johnson can get included in the debates and make this a three-way race.

That's how I - also a Pennsylvanian - am thinking as well.  Hopefully,  I can vote FOR Gary Johnson, and not against candidates I despise.   But if on election eve the Pennsy race is too close to call, I'll do what I have to do. 

[sinkspur]

You guys wanted this neo-fascist,  a man so unfit and dangerous for the job that a majority of the conservatives on this site won't support him.

What were you thinking?  Were you even thinking at all, or just lashing out, in spite, at those of us who preferred Cruz, or Kasich, or Rubio?     Trump's now out there appealing to the Sanders voters - that's who you should be allying with, if you want to keep Clinton from the White House. 

 

Trump has shown NO INTEREST in trying to win over those in the Republican party who didn't support him.  No, instead, he's trolling for Bernie's socialist supporters.  And continuing to trash Cruz and Kasich, rubbing the noses of their supporters in "I beat them badly."

And now we have his brownshirts here trying to jam him down our throats with threats and guilt. 

Trump disqualified himself this weekend with his crazed rants. 

#NeverTrump will forever, for me, be Never Trump.

[aligncare]

This post needs a reread.

Not voting for Trump is a Clinton vote.  And with the recent email release of DNC communications and the
anticipated State Department email release, firm ground to deny Trump is even less.

And by the way, despite Cruz presence at the RNC, and despite my request to remove Cruz from Pookie
Toons, I would support him as a Supreme. And maybe Trump would too.  Because Cruz would be an
outstanding candidate, strong constitutionalist and that would remove Cruz from his current distractions

Time to man up.  Vote Trump!

Hi. I agree with you, it's time everyone supported the GOP nominee. Not doing so risks a Hillary Clinton presidency. A revolting thought.

But, just to let you know. Taking that position here puts you at risk of personal insults. Insults have been leveled at me hundreds of times by Cruz Losers here because of my support of Donald Trump. Are you prepared for the same treatment?

[bolobaby]

So, is it safe to say you find honor in losing to Hillary Clinton?

Another version of "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Hillary."

*Ring, ring. Ring, Ring.*

"Hello?"

"Yes, this is an MSNBC poll. Do you prefer Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump for president?"

"Um, neither. I won't vote for either. I think I may vote for Gary Johnson."

"Right, we'll just put that down as a supporting Hillary, then. Thanks for your time. Goodbye!"

"Hey! Wait..."

*click*

(Your thought process is as corrupt as this poll would be.)

[LMAO]

There is Nothing Honorable About Losing to Hillary
American Thinker, July 25, 2016, Karin McQuillan

In 2008 we had John McCain, who was too honorable to criticize Barack Hussein Obama.  In 2012 we had Mitt Romney who again was too honorable to attack our first black President.  Now we have Ted  Cruz who is too honorable to honor his pledge of party unity, too honorable to protect our Supreme Court from Hillary’s potential nominees, and too honorable to help us win.  We have all the Libertarians, so honorable they have a shot at throwing the election to Hillary. 

We have a whole list of conservative pundits and websites, who could swallow the GOP betraying all their 2012 pledges, doubling our national debt and increasing entitlements, without a word about bolting the party, but Trump’s crude, honest talk is too much for their honor to bear?

We have Paul Ryan who is so honorable he has to rush to the microphones and join the media lynch mob criticizing Trump as racist, while the Dems’ race-baiting over 8 years has gotten a pass.  Ryan’s priority is to protect his own, oh so honorable brand, as a compassionate conservative, superior to the voters as well as Trump.

There is nothing honorable about choosing to lose.

There is nothing honorable about betraying your voters, who picked Trump because all those honorable leaders have been lying to us for years.  They pretend to support enforcing our immigration laws when they have no intention of doing so.  They pretend to be serious about the jihadi threat, while letting millions of sharia-supporting Muslims into our country.  They pretend to be fixing things in the Middle East, while giving the Gulf sheikdoms free rein to turn American mosques into jihadi propaganda centers.  They pretend to be serious about jobs, while refusing to confront the Chinese on currency manipulation.  They pretend to love America, but not enough to protect it from the PC onslaught on our constitutional rights.

Note to all you honorable liars and losers:  the voters are sick of you.  We want someone on our side and someone who will to fight to win.  That’s why Trump was nominated.

Ted Cruz – the honorable thing was to put your personal anger at Trump’s dirty fighting aside.  Yes, he called your wife and father mean, ugly things, completely reprehensible. That’s more important to your conscience than a Hillary Supreme Court?  You told the convention, “And citizens are furious — rightly furious — at a political establishment that cynically breaks its promises and that ignores the will of the people.”  You were talking about yourself, Ted.  You were in the very act of ignoring the voters who elected Trump, not you, and breaking your promise to support the nominee.   And you have the hypocrisy to label that principled.

Message to all you so very honorable constitutional conservatives:  Trump is a far better constitutional candidate than anyone we’ve had a chance to vote for since Reagan, who also had his flaws.  Without borders, we have no country and no rule of law, both of which are prerequisites to a constitutionally limited government.  Think you’re going to get smaller government with amnesty and open borders?   

So Trump doesn’t make beautiful intellectual speeches about liberty.  He’s going to protect freedom of speech, religion and the 2nd Amendment, all of which are eroding by the week under progressive misrule.

So Trump isn’t pledging entitlement reform?  He does recognize the need to rein in government over-regulation, so crucial to both liberty and prosperity.  He will get rid of the Common Core federal take-over of education, with its curriculum designed to wipe out American values and love of country among our children.  He will take on special interests such as the environmental lobby, which has hobbled our energy sector, and limited growth.  These are not small improvements.

Hillary will finish destroying everything you hold dear.  Trump will not just hold the line, he will advance it.

It’s nonsense that Trump is a horror, but that Hillary is worse.  Trump gets the basics.

Which is far more than can be said of all you honorable men.



http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/there_is_nothing_honorable_about_losing_to_hillary.html#ixzz4FQ51xe3F

This article is another example of someone molding Trump into what they think he will be while ignoring his past and current statements and positions. It also is very condensending. I suspect, as his backers realize he isn't who they thought, we'll see more fear mongering and insults.  I suspect deep down they know they have a bad candidate on their hands even though they won't admit so publicly. And it's the height of arrogance for them to demand that you vote for a candidate that even deep down they know is bad.


Trump and Hillary both believe in central control over the economy. Maybe Trump less so than Clinton but nonetheless, still holds the belief he can manage it better. On many other domestic issues, the gap between the two isn't that wide, either.

I'm currently a NeverTrumper but may change my mind in the voting booth come Nov. That depends what I hear from now to then. If I ultimately make the decision to vote for him, it won't be because I was bullied into it nor will I be under any illusion regarding Trump and who he is

This is the worst pick your poison election I have ever seen

[Jazzhead]

Hi. I agree with you, it's time everyone supported the GOP nominee. Not doing so risks a Hillary Clinton presidency. A revolting thought.

But, just to let you know. Taking that position here puts you at risk of personal insults. Insults have been leveled at me hundreds of times by Cruz Losers here because of my support of Donald Trump. Are you prepared for the same treatment?

But lots of us don't want to risk a Trump presidency.   Why not try speaking to that,  AC?   

[Night Hides Not]

Vote your conscience.

If I lived in a blue state where there was no chance Hillary could lose (eg, California), I would definitely withhold my vote for Trump.  Ditto if I lived in a purely red state where Trump needs no help (eg, Alabama).  But, unfortunately I live in battleground Pennsylvania, and that means I will have to wait until I actually step into the voting booth before I decide what to do.  It will all depend on whether Trump is viable here on that particular day.

I still hold out hope that Gary Johnson can get included in the debates and make this a three-way race.

Although I live in Texas, I will be pondering my decision up until the time I step into the voting booth. Trump has the possibility that he could turn his campaign into a train wreck that puts Texas in play. His continued attacks on Ted Cruz are turning off most of the people that voted for Ted.

I emailed Mark Davis (of KSKY AM 660, the (Wrong) Answer), who along with Mike Gallagher has grabbed a seat on the Trump Train, if only to stop Hillary. On Friday's show, he tried to assuage some of the vitriol directed at him by listeners who support Ted, and unwittingly uttered the main reason for not voting for Trump: within Donald Trump lies a petulant 9 YO boy.

In my email, I tossed Mark's words back at him. We cannot afford handing the nuclear football over to a petulant 9 YO boy. IMO, Trump does not get my vote until that petulance is exorcised. Unlike his supporters, that's not a stage presence to be casually dismissed. That petulance has been on display during his 70 year life span, multiple marriages, and other demonstrations of low morals and cronyism.

I'll let you know if I ever hear from Mr. Davis.