For Sake of ‘Party Unity,’ Trump Wished Crowd Would Have Assaulted Ted Cruz

[XenaLee]

That ad has been running several times a day on all the cable stations here in PA for the last week. I just saw it again while watching CNN.  I agree that Hillary is a horrible person and would be a terrible POTUS but the ad is very well done and may be effective especially with “soccer” moms.

FWIW I’ve seen absolutely no pro-Trump ads here.

FWIW, Cruz campaign had a great web-based ad that ran during the primary. If you are a fan of the movie Office Space, you will especially get it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY

Where are the Trump ads?

Non-existent.

He is too cheap to run anti-Hillary ads and would rather keep bashing his GOP primary opponents.

Cheap?  I thought that (not running ads) was just part of his strategy (other than running his mouth and turning off more voters with his rhetoric) for losing to Hillary and handing her the victory.  But yeah, I guess it could also be because he's cheap.  Might also explain why he shafted so many folks (contractors) that he owed money to.

[Bigun]

OK, you asked and I suspect you and others may not like my answer, but it is because DT is weak that we must vote for him.  It may be that DT's instability and narcissism could be his best qualities as far as the nation is concerned.

Say what?  Vote for the weaker of the two candidates?  Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Hillary Clinton is probably not mentally ill, she's not that smart, but she is clever, actively engaged in the pursuit of evil, experienced, connected, conniving and willing to do anything and everything to enhance her own power and position.* 

And, much like the guy who "took the presidency from her in 2008", she doesn't really like us Americans that much.  She doesn't find us appealing, she doesn't really understand or empathize with us and she thinks we're patsys for believing most of the stuff we believe.  Like the Constitution, like American exceptionalism, like freedom.  I'll grant you that DT doesn't believe in those things either, but his lack of belief is a result of intellectual laziness, whereas hers is an active dislike of those things that are good.  He is able to overlook those things, she will actively work to destroy them.

Trump, on the other hand, is an amateur on the international scene, undisciplined and disorganized.  He will be much easier to isolate and will be much less effective than the supremely disciplined Clinton.
 
One of the better arguments I have seen presented here is the idea that we need to maintain control of the House and Senate.  I agree; that’s how it should be.  However, we the people, have had little-to-no control over what goes on in DC for many years now, and what little influence we have had is diminishing.  The House and the Senate are engaged for the most part in the Clintonian art of taking what they can get and consolidating power, all the while making every effort to displace any responsibility that might fall on them for their actions or lack thereof.   

They are NOT going to want to limit what HRC does – they simply don’t have the vision or backbone to do so.   DJT presents a much softer target, and one that I think they will push back against. 

HRC also is (willingly) bought and paid for by the Muslim Brotherhood.  DJT's ego just may mean that he will feel the need to follow through on as least some of his promises in that area.  Ditto slowing the flood across the border.  With HRC we are guaranteed more immigration of the bad kind.

And, my last point for now:  DJT is much more impeachable that HRC.  If it comes to it, and the clamor from the people reaches a point where Congress finally feels that they must do something beyond the silly, stupid and insulting never-ending "hearings", they could and would take out the nominal Republican where they would never take out the Dem.  And, particularly one they fear as much as Clinton.

*Re: "willing to do anything and everything to enhance her own power and position“, yes, she is.   Things like repeatedly and easily lying to Congress and the people of the United States, selling military technology to the Chinese, accepting foreign funds as Secretary of State in return for making decisions that benefited those entities bribing her, setting up an unsafe and highly illegal email system that jeopardized and may have contributed to the deaths of a number of Americans, and possibly others – just to be able to avoid the possibility of her communications being on the record.

REALLY nice try my dear but unfortunately it's a

[geronl]

Trump is not the "lesser evil"

[Sanguine]

REALLY nice try my dear but unfortunately it's a

Now, Bigun, you know me well enough to know I'm not trying to sell anything. 

The fact of the matter is that we've been dealt a big steaming pile of pooh, and we have to decide what to do with it.  We can't ignore it; it smells the whole place up, is attracting all sorts of vermin and presents a clear danger to us. 

Am I baffled and flabbergasted that we've gotten into this position?  Am I furious with Dems for nominating one of the most corrupt people to ever be a part of the American political scene?  Am I almost equally furious with Republicans for nominating one of the most unfit candidates of all time in spite of the efforts of many of us here?  You betcha.  All of that.

But, I've got to put my feeling aside and deal with what we've got. I've got to think about what is best for my kids, my grandkids, and your kids and grandkids.  As angry as I am, I can't let that anger dictate my actions.  Regrettably....

@Emjay and @geronl.

[GrouchoTex]

Hillary Clinton got the Republican candidate she wanted, the one who keeps running against his own party.
Trump is actually #NeverTrump himself, and his actions continue to prove this.

[catfish1957]

Sanguine, I am as sick about it as you are too.

I believe the best approach is to let DJT go it alone with zero RNC funds.  Take those funds and put them on close Senatorial and House races, so that we are insured to keep Congress in the GOP camp.

Fight Hitlerly tooth and nail with a GOP congress, until we can win in the WH in 2020.

[Sanguine]

Sanguine, I am as sick about it as you are too.

I believe the best approach is to let DJT go it alone with zero RNC funds.  Take those funds and put them on close Senatorial and House races, so that we are insured to keep Congress in the GOP camp.

Fight Hitlerly tooth and nail with a GOP congress, until we can win in the WH in 2020.

It IS a sick situation. 

The more I think about it, the more I think we have to go the Article V route.  Or, just roll over and accept an HRC presidency global crime wave.  I'm not willing to do the latter. 

[INVAR]

Trump is a lunatic.  His preoccupation with Cruz is proof positive that his only purpose was to stop the conservative movement and hijack the GOP. 

The GOP was ripe for a hostile takeover, and that is exactly why the McConnell/Dole Establishment oligarchy sought to prevent the TEA Party from doing so.  The fact it was so easily taken over by a NY liberal Democrat speaks volumes of how far the party had already fallen into uniparty irrelevant status.

Trump articulated all the angst and anger towards the GOP at the beginning of his campaign, tapped into the very issues the base was angry about the GOP uniting with the Democrats on.  Those truthful things and hitting the Establishment and the Media were exactly what Conservatives and Republicans wanted to see for years - but rarely if ever saw come from a party leadership that was fundamentally no different than the Democrat party, having handed Obama a dictatorship in the Executive.

Of course now we are all witnessing that this was just a ruse - and now the real destruction of Conservatives begins.

If indeed this was a Clintonian move (which I believe it was) - it will go down as one of the most brilliant Trojan Stalking Horse moves in the history of politics.

[ABX]

The GOP was ripe for a hostile takeover, and that is exactly why the McConnell/Dole Establishment oligarchy sought to prevent the TEA Party from doing so.  The fact it was so easily taken over by a NY liberal Democrat speaks volumes of how far the party had already fallen into uniparty irrelevant status.

Trump articulated all the angst and anger towards the GOP at the beginning of his campaign, tapped into the very issues the base was angry about the GOP uniting with the Democrats on.  Those truthful things and hitting the Establishment and the Media were exactly what Conservatives and Republicans wanted to see for years - but rarely if ever saw come from a party leadership that was fundamentally no different than the Democrat party, having handed Obama a dictatorship in the Executive.

Of course now we are all witnessing that this was just a ruse - and now the real destruction of Conservatives begins.

If indeed this was a Clintonian move (which I believe it was) - it will go down as one of the most brilliant Trojan Stalking Horse moves in the history of politics.

This battle predates McConnell and Boehner. This is Stone and Manafort's revenge. They are the part of the NE country club establishment versus the DC establishment versus flyover unwashed masses. The former is manipulating both as revenge for losing power.

[geronl]

But, I've got to put my feeling aside and deal with what we've got. I've got to think about what is best for my kids, my grandkids, and your kids and grandkids.  As angry as I am, I can't let that anger dictate my actions.  Regrettably....

@Emjay and @geronl.

I'm definitely not supporting Trump, he is as vile and corrupt as Hillary.

By the way, what we saw at the convention turns me against an Article V convention. Those people will be the kind of people running it.

[geronl]

If indeed this was a Clintonian move (which I believe it was) - it will go down as one of the most brilliant Trojan Stalking Horse moves in the history of politics.

The GOP fully embraced and happily pulled the trojan horse into the gates even while the watchmen on the walls were telling them to push it off a cliff.

[Sanguine]

I'm definitely not supporting Trump, he is as vile and corrupt as Hillary.

By the way, what we saw at the convention turns me against an Article V convention. Those people will be the kind of people running it.

Geron, I hear you and I completely understand.  But, we've got to do SOMETHING.  Which way do we go?  Like I said, sitting back and accepting it isn't acceptable.

So, what's the plan? What DO we do?

[INVAR]

Geron, I hear you and I completely understand.  But, we've got to do SOMETHING.  Which way do we go?  Like I said, sitting back and accepting it isn't acceptable.

So, what's the plan? What DO we do?

II Chronicles 7:14 for starters.

Look, we are suffering this miasma of corrupt, self-absorbed evil rulers because God has given the nation over to it's own devices since the culture has booted Him out of prominence and reverence and the people of the nation embrace sin and evil as 'lifestyle choices' and 'rights'.  The blood of millions of infants cry out to Him, and all of us will answer in blood for that industry of death.

We are only in the beginnings of where I think all this is going to go.

One other thing those of us with reason and thinking skills need to keep in mind; we are not going to stop the lawless with more laws.  If anything the display at the convention with so-called 'Conservatives ' applauding homosexuality, big government punishments and the Democrat agenda ought to tell you that Article V is not going to be of any help at this point either.    Neither will we slow or stop tyranny via civil means.

The rule of law is dead and 'the law' is now whatever those with guns to our heads say the law is, even when they exempt themselves from it. 

Look, we can do things like support other candidates and parties while there is still some daylight and hopefully set justifications for what will be necessary - but putting our faith in the corrupted institutions of men to fix where we have arrived is where Conservatism will find it's end.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

the derangement this man has will likely cause the US to do things to satisfy his ego which will not be in America's best interests.

He will yell 'Flame On!' and the world will never be the same.

God help us.

[RetBobbyMI]

I will do my part to help Trump AND Hillary loose in Michigan.  Darrell Castle is on the ballot and will get my vote sometime in October when I get my absentee ballot.  In addition I will vote against any incumbent or anyone who supported the Orange buffoon.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Sanguine, I am as sick about it as you are too.

I believe the best approach is to let DJT go it alone with zero RNC funds.  Take those funds and put them on close Senatorial and House races, so that we are insured to keep Congress in the GOP camp.

Fight Hitlerly tooth and nail with a GOP congress, until we can win in the WH in 2020.

Keeping Congress in the GOP camp is not the solution.  We must get an enabled Congress in conservative leadership hands to preserve us.

The Founders created a system in which the Presidency can be controlled by an effective Congress.  It is Congress which is charged to restrain an out of control President.

The absence of Congressional actions during the past 7 1/2 years indicates we cannot return those who are in leadership for the next session.  To do so will keep us in the position in which we find ourselves, lurching toward destruction.

[INVAR]

What do we do.

1.  "Wherewithall shall a young man cleans his way?  By taking heed to Thy Word....Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against Thee..."  "Let the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart, do the same thing for Thee, and a witness be to the glory of God"....."Whatever is true, whatever is right, whatever is noble, whatever is just and worth of praise, let your mind dwell on these things..."

We put our faith in the only source of good:  God. 

2.  We speak what is true and right and we do what is true and right. 

3.  We pray.

4.  "Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we will remember the name of the Lord our God..."  Whatever we see, whomever we perceive as winning in the realm of power and human strength, we do not follow after them.  We keep our trust in God.  He rules the Universe.  Others just think the do.

5.  We keep doing all of the above and whatever comes, "the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.  Blessed be the name of the Lord."  Not our will, but His means that sometimes there is a cross before there is redemption.  Sometimes evil looks as though it is winning.  But ultimately it will not.

Amen.

A wicked and immoral people are not capable of liberty, they will consistently turn to a king and powerful state to be their provider and to do harm to those they hate. 

What we do is what is necessary.  We turn to our Only Shield and Strength, Trust in Him and His Righteousness and not the words of men - we proclaim the Truth as a witness, and we work while there is still daylight in which to work to achieve the justification of what will be necessary to resist what tyrants of men will attempt to do.

Our Founders did that exact same thing.  I do not see why so many are offended at that thought.

But that is the ONLY blueprint that has any potential for success.  And it may very well be that the Lord's Judgment has decreed that our time is up due our cultural and national wickedness. 

Can we pull a Nineveh? 

I have doubts as the pastors and church leaders by and large are silent or accommodating of sin and instead preach a prosperity Gospel that ignores consequences for sin and tickles itching ears of a people that only want to hear smooth and easy things.

Our politics is a reflection of the character of the nation. 

[skeeter]

OK, you asked and I suspect you and others may not like my answer, but it is because DT is weak that we must vote for him.  It may be that DT's instability and narcissism could be his best qualities as far as the nation is concerned.

Say what?  Vote for the weaker of the two candidates?  Yes, that's what I'm saying.

I understand exactly what you're saying. Hillary cannot be allowed to win.

But because of Trump's behavior, throughout the primaries and specifically these past few days, I strongly suspect he has no intention of winning in November, it won't matter how you or I vote.

In fact Trump losing not only suits Hillary Clinton just fine, it suits Trump and the GOP. Trump the celebrity is worth tens of millions more, the GOPe is rid of the strongest bid conservatives have been able to mount since 1984 (they'd much rather deal with a Clinton) & Hillary gets her long coveted turn at the helm.

This planned outcome the only way any of what has been going on makes any sense.

[INVAR]

Keeping Congress in the GOP camp is not the solution.  We must get an enabled Congress in conservative leadership hands to preserve us.

Amen, but at this time - impossible. The rules have been fixed to ensure that cannot happen within the GOP.

The Founders created a system in which the Presidency can be controlled by an effective Congress.  It is Congress which is charged to restrain an out of control President.

The GOP completely surrendered that power to the Executive.  It is no longer an option, and they will not do so.  Even moreso if Trump is the President and the GOP still retains control of both houses.  Which is why it is better to have a clear enemy at the head of government that we can oppose and in whom we have absolutely no responsibility for.  A GOP Congress will never restrain an out of control Trump or Hillary anymore than it restrained an out of control Obama.
 

The absence of Congressional actions during the past 7 1/2 years indicates we cannot return those who are in leadership for the next session.  To do so will keep us in the position in which we find ourselves, lurching toward destruction.

The cheers and applause like clapping seals of the Republican delegations at the Convention last week for ideas and behaviors that are antithetical to Conservative principles and are instead part and parcel of the Hedonistic Democrat agenda, tell me that the party itself will ensure the leadership remains constant with their consent, notwithstanding the rules changes that make it impossible to do so.

[Cripplecreek]

So let me see if I can get this straight.

We have a clearly mentally ill narcissistic authoritarian suggesting one of the greatest constitutional conservatives of our lifetimes should be physically attacked by a mob which very likely means killed by that mob and the response is "If we don't vote for him Clinton will win".

You people are no better than the bloodthirsty jackals who actually want Trump. On the bright side there will be no allies to come and stop what you put in motion and maybe you can convince yourselves that you had no choice.

Here are the closing words of a farewell written by my grandfather's CO during WWII.



Maybe years down the road your consciences will be clear and maybe your maker will understand but I doubt it.

[libertybele]

For a presidential candidate to suggest or wish an assault on someone for his benefit is despicable.  I have seen several Hillary ads against Trump and she is focusing on his lunacy and the fact that he is a psychopath and she is 100% correct.  Meanwhile I have seen zero Trump ads against Hillary; instead as the GOP presidential candidate he is fixated on going after fellow Republicans. In fact he is going after one of the most conservative Republicans in Congress.  So you tell me, which side is Donny really on? 

[Cripplecreek]

For a presidential candidate to suggest or wish an assault on someone for his benefit is despicable.  I have seen several Hillary ads against Trump and she is focusing on his lunacy and the fact that he is a psychopath and she is 100% correct.  Meanwhile I have seen zero Trump ads against Hillary; instead as the GOP presidential candidate he is fixated on going after fellow Republicans. In fact he is going after one of the most conservative Republicans in Congress.  So you tell me, which side is Donny really on?

Its beyond despicable and the capitol police have been forced to increase Ted Cruz's security detail as a result.

Its not as subtle but no different than the many times we've seen Obama give a not to rioting and cop killing.

I really would like to know what Trump supporters think would happen if any of the Cruz family were harmed or killed by some nutjob supporting Trump?

[libertybele]

Its beyond despicable and the capitol police have been forced to increase Ted Cruz's security detail as a result.

Its not as subtle but no different than the many times we've seen Obama give a not to rioting and cop killing.

I really would like to know what Trump supporters think would happen if any of the Cruz family were harmed or killed by some nutjob supporting Trump?

IMHO Trump supporters would cheer if something happened to Cruz even if the assailant turned out to be some nut job Trump supporter.  Most of Trump's supporters are just as loony as he is.

[Cripplecreek]

IMHO Trump supporters would cheer if something happened to Cruz even if the assailant turned out to be some nut job Trump supporter.  Most of Trump's supporters are just as loony as he is.

Yeah, I get threats from them pretty much every day on twitter. They think I'm a rich greedy Jew. The cartoon a bunch of us got today is the stereotypical big nose Jew on his knees with a bullet exploding from his forehead.

[Cripplecreek]

OMGosh.  That's terrible.

I'm not even Jewish but I'm a Cruz supporter so I must be part of the global Goldman Sachs banking Cabal. I just block them or retweet the particularly stupid. You should see what actual Jews like Ben Shapiro get.