Author Topic: WOW! POLITICAL SUICIDE! TED CRUZ REFUSES TO ENDORSE TRUMP – CROWD BOOS HIM OFF STAGE  (Read 83049 times)

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Offline Jazzhead

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At least Kasich didn't show up at all, which is a more honorable stance.  Cruz showing up and then NOT supporting Trump was like showing up at a party, and then spitting on the cake.

Cruz gave a brilliant speech describing the stakes in this election, echoing Trump's major themes and urging everyone to vote.   It was immensely supportive of Trump, except to the crazy Trumpsters who insist on kiss-my-ring fealty. 

Cruz was trying to unify the party,  except that you and the other Trumpsters who booed would rather keep up your ridiculous feud.

Yeah,  you sure must want to lose.     
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Clinton supporters?

You mean like the entire registered democRAT Trump family?

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so there was a 'but' or 'depending on' or 'only if' at the end of his pledge?   funny, I don't hear it here....
 

In my experience, if I am trying to restore a failed relationship, my first move is to own my part of the failure. "I was wrong" opens the door to reconciliation.

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It had nothing to do with "joining a mob".  It proves, yet again, Ted Cruz is incapable of being a team player, of fighting for a greater good outside his personal ambitions---and everything he has done this year, including last night, is about him--first, last and always.

The people have proven they can embrace someone who has lost an election, but not a sore loser.  Last night Cruz proved he's the loser whose self-interest is above the country's in such a deliberate and obvious way at the moment we are fighting for our survival.

Just how freaking delusional are you,anyway? WHEN the alleged Republicans lose in November it will be because you supported the Orange Loser with tiny hands that is owned by the same bankers that own the Clintons,and because people like you swallowed the bait,hook,line,and sinker.


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Just how freaking delusional are you,anyway? WHEN the alleged Republicans lose in November it will be because you supported the Orange Loser with tiny hands that is owned by the same bankers that own the Clintons.
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Sarah Palin says that Cruz's speech was "career ending" and that people shouldn't support candidates who don't tell the truth.

SARAH PALIN said this!

LOLOLOL *deep breath* LOLLLLL

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In my experience, if I am trying to restore a failed relationship, my first move is to own my part of the failure. "I was wrong" opens the door to reconciliation.

It was Ted's place to own it.....he didn't.

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Yeah,  you sure must want to lose.   

I'm voting for the candidate, so its not on me if the votes arent there....

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Multiple witnesses confirm Manafort said "Wait until you see the reaction to the Ted Cruz speech."

Multiple witnesses confirm Trump people were moving through the crowd, encouraging delegates to boo.

Once again, the stupid oaf got in his own way, and turned a very good speech by Cruz into a legendary speech.

Thanks, Donald!

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Politically brilliant move

Once Trump is exposed as the fraud that he is, Ted Cruz will come out like a hero.

I can't help that the TV punditry is so short sided, and collectively stupid. 

And to those NY delegate thugs who threatened MS. Cruz......  FU
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Sarah Palin says that Cruz's speech was "career ending" and that people shouldn't support candidates who don't tell the truth.

SARAH PALIN said this!

LOLOLOL *deep breath* LOLLLLL

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Back on topic...

Cruz' speech of last night will grow larger over time. It will not diminish him.

Problem is that most in the auditorium last night didn't see it that way, which is why he's trying to explain himself this morning to the Texas delegation.  When you have to explain what you just said, you have problems.  What he did last night was to solidify his standing with the right wing, but make a lot of enemies.  Not a good thing to do when planning his 2020 presidential aspirations.  It wouldn't have taken much to ask for unity against Hillary, but he just couldn't do that.  It hasn't ended his political career, just made his job much tougher.
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I'm not sure what you mean.  No one in my family is a democRAT, registered or otherwise.

Or if you are calling me a Clinton supporter, I intend to vote for Trump this fall.  As the Trump enthusiasts keep pointing out, he's better than Hillary.  IMHO being the "Not Hillary" candidate is a pretty weak campaign theme, but hey, you have to roll with what got.

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It was Ted's place to own it.....he didn't.

Own what? Cruz was the TARGET of Trump's smears.  Trump never apologized for maligning Cruz's wife, his father, and Cruz himself.

Cruz took a risk, but it will pay off for him big time when Trump loses.   He'll be the guy who took the keys away from a drunk.
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Cruz emerges with his integrity intact. Trump clearly does not want Ted's endorsement because that would require apologizing for his outrageous attacks in the primary.

And, it can be said that much of how people view Cruz' speech 4 years hence will be based on a President Trump performance.

Ironic, ain't it?
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I'm voting for the candidate, so its not on me if the votes arent there....

Just as when Ted Cruz couldn't consolidate the not Trump vote and it was on him, if Trump cannot consolidate the Not Hillary vote, it's Trump's failure, and his alone.

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Ted had a chance to show some class and do what he pledged to do from the beginning. I suspect that he  and Kasich have ruined their future chances in presidential politics. A whole lot of Republicans will remember this in four or eight years. The only way this works out for either of them is if Trump does something so stupid that most of his supporters turn away from him and admit they were wrong from the beginning.

Crazier things have happened, but it is quite unlikely. It takes a lot for most people to change their entire way of thinking.  Rubio showed a bit more class, but he did himself no favor as well.

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Politically brilliant move

Once Trump is exposed as the fraud that he is, Ted Cruz will come out like a hero.

I can't help that the TV punditry is so short sided, and collectively stupid. 

And to those NY delegate thugs who threatened MS. Cruz......  FU
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I must be a die hard Cruz supporter then, because tonight I heard someone who actually speaks for me.

BTW Trump himself backed out of the pledge deal on 3/30/16 on CNN. So can we dispense with that particular untruth, at least?

Same here.  Never more proud of the courage of Ted Cruz, and in the face of the Roman mob.
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Problem is that most in the auditorium last night didn't see it that way, which is why he's trying to explain himself this morning to the Texas delegation.  When you have to explain what you just said, you have problems.   It wouldn't have taken much to ask for unity against Hillary, but he just couldn't do that.  It hasn't ended his political career, just made his job much tougher.

When he DOES run again the fact that he lied about supporting the winner will taint him.  Makes him look like a sore loser - which is a pretty childish stance to take in politics. 

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I supported Cruz and still do not support Trump. I think Cruz should not have shown up in that hall if he was not going to lend more support to the ticket.


the GOP convention is not just nominating the President.  There are a lot of other items being decided such as party platform, etc.  Do you believe the party should lockstep in just one direction?  this is not a dictatorship.

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Maybe he is standing on principle, but what about the principle and honor of signing a pledge and abiding by it because you gave your word?

Did Ted reverse himself since March when he said he would not necessarily support GOP nominee?  http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-nominee-pledge/

I would like to see you source if he did.
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so there was a 'but' or 'depending on' or 'only if' at the end of his pledge?   funny, I don't hear it here....

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/flashback-ted-cruz-promises-national-tv-endorse-donald-trump-video/

So if someone attacked your husband and your father, you'd be a disloyal doormat and keep some "pledge" made to the person?

Cruz did the only honorable thing.  He put his wife and his father, and his principles and his country, before that stupid oaf, Trump.


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I'm voting for the candidate, so its not on me if the votes arent there....

No, it's on you and the other Trumpsters who want no reconciliation with those of us who voted for Cruz or Kasich.   

What is wrong with a message to Vote your Conscience?   Have you forgotten you have one?   
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Respectfully, RIV, that's ridiculous.    Cruz didn't urge anyone not to vote for Trump.   He made clear in stark terms the stakes this election, and urged all who were listening to get out and vote in November, up and down the ticket.  And Cruz unequivocally endorsed Trump's major themes of keeping dangerous immigrants out and building "the wall".


As much as you'd like to think it so,  it is no diss of Trump or anyone else to urge all Americans to vote their consciences.  You're voting your conscience, aren't you?   Why shouldn't we all?   

You can't dismiss the reality that Trump treated Cruz and his family very badly during the primaries.   Cruz did everything a reasonable man could be expected to do in his speech - he spoke not one bad word about the Republican nominee,  and made exactly the kind of pitch  - a passionate apologia for liberty- centric and opportunity-centric government - that can and will unify the party, if only the Trumpsters will let it .

The Trumpsters who booed Cruz are fools,  but perhaps Trump himself is not.   He should be MAGNANIMOUS in victory tonight, and should specifically thank  Cruz for articulating so well the values that animate the Republican party.   He should even consider recognizing the bad blood between them,  and apologize for dissing Cruz's wife and dad.   If he does that, he'll likely unify the party.   If he doesn't,  and proves yet again that it's all about him,  then Hillary can start measuring the drapes.     

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Own what? Cruz was the TARGET of Trump's smears.  Trump never apologized for maligning Cruz's wife, his father, and Cruz himself.


Cruzpac started it with the picture of Melania.....meant to hurt Trump in Utah with the Mormons.