Kasich Takes Backhanded Shot At Trump in Speech to Illinois Delegates

[libertybele]

Good for Kasich! 

Kasich takes backhanded shot at Trump in speech to Illinois convention delegates

 Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Monday told Illinois delegates to the Republican National Convention that the GOP should grow the party by promoting an "inclusive reform agenda" — a backhanded shot at the rival who vanquished him for the presidential nomination, Donald Trump.

Kasich also urged Illinois Republicans to stand by Gov. Bruce Rauner in his battles with Democrats who control the state House and Senate, saying Rauner's agenda will eventually leave the state "better off." Rauner is absent from the convention.

The Ohio governor's appearance came on a tumultuous first day of the convention, which began with Trump's top adviser, Paul Manafort, accusing Kasich of being "petulant" and "embarrassing his party in Ohio" by refusing to endorse the presumptive nominee.

Kasich's visit to the Illinois delegation was the first of several the two-term governor is making to delegates in Cleveland outside the Quicken Loans Arena convention hall, which he has pledged not to set foot in. Later this week, Kasich's plans include a stop with the New Hampshire GOP convention delegation, spurring speculation that the term-limited governor is looking ahead to a presidential bid in 2020....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-illinois-republican-national-convention-john-kasich-met-0719-20160718-story.html

[kevindavis007]

Not a Kasich fan, but he is right

[Jazzhead]

Kasich is looking toward the future.   Trumpism is an aberration;  his whites-only strategy is up against a demographic maelstrom -  Romney got 59% of the white vote and still lost.   Even if Trump gets 66% of the white vote like Reagan did in 1984,  that segment of the total vote is shrinking and Trump will be trounced with women and Hispanics. 

Of course Kasich is right - the GOP can and must follow an inclusive strategy.  That's why the party holds 31 governorships.   That's why Paul Ryan and the House leadership are seeking to run on an ambitious platform of tax and regulatory reforms to (finally) grow the economy.   

The GOP is worthy of our support this year.   The problem is that, for some strange reason, the GOP declined to nominate a Presidential candidate this year.   No matter.   I will work and vote for Pat Toomey and other down-ballot candidates.

As for the Presidential race, it's a contest between the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, and that of the American version of the National Front, Donald Trump.    As a Republican,  the party of Lincoln, I reject utterly both the divisive Dems and the divisive National Front and trust that, in 2020,  the Republican party will be back in the Presidential game again.   

[Mechanicos]

Rino Establishment Kaisch... 

[kevindavis007]

Kasich is looking toward the future.   Trumpism is an aberration;  his whites-only strategy is up against a demographic maelstrom -  Romney got 59% of the white vote and still lost.   Even if Trump gets 66% of the white vote like Reagan did in 1984,  that segment of the total vote is shrinking and Trump will be trounced with women and Hispanics. 

Of course Kasich is right - the GOP can and must follow an inclusive strategy.  That's why the party holds 31 governorships.   That's why Paul Ryan and the House leadership are seeking to run on an ambitious platform of tax and regulatory reforms to (finally) grow the economy.   

The GOP is worthy of our support this year.   The problem is that, for some strange reason, the GOP declined to nominate a Presidential candidate this year.   No matter.   I will work and vote for Pat Toomey and other down-ballot candidates.

As for the Presidential race, it's a contest between the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, and that of the American version of the National Front, Donald Trump.    As Republican,  the party of Lincoln, I reject utterly both the divisive Dems and the divisive National Front and trust that, in 2020,  the Republican party will be back in the Presidential game again.   

I wish a lot of people on our side see that..

[Jazzhead]

I wish a lot of people on our side see that..

Me too, KD.  But look on the bright-side - the alt-right insurrection will soon be repudiated.  There's a solid core of folks who can and will pick up the pieces.   

[kevindavis007]

Me too, KD.  But look on the bright-side - the alt-right insurrection will soon be repudiated.  There's a solid core of folks who can and will pick up the pieces.

That is how I see it as well. We will do better in 2020.. Right now I'm voting GOP down ticket and voting Libertarian for President.

[catfish1957]

Rino Establishment Kaisch... 

Still who won the GOP Ohio primary?   Good job Trump........    Piss off conservatives and Kasich supporters. 

[TomSea]

Let's remember Conservatives, er, if one disagrees with others, make it about "race".

[Jazzhead]

 Right now I'm voting GOP down ticket and voting Libertarian for President.

If all goes well, that's what I will do too.   

[Jazzhead]

Let's remember Conservatives, er, if one disagrees with others, make it about "race".

Trump's appeal is racialist just as Al Sharpton's is - yet another marker for why he's no conservative.   

[catfish1957]

If all goes well, that's what I will do too.

Constitution Party has a more conservative platform, but they are not on every state ballot.

[TomSea]

Trump's appeal is racialist just as Al Sharpton's is - yet another marker for why he's no conservative.

Okay, I respect if one wants to say that without back up at the same time.

Again, many people say others play the race card; there is nothing wrong with stating that as well.

[TomSea]

Daryll Glenn needs to get back on the plantation, how dare he be a speaker at the Trump Convention, guess he's an uncle Tom, ain't he Jazzhead?

[Jazzhead]

I respect Daryl Glenn,  TomSea,  just not Donald Trump.   Trump appeals to and exploits ethnic, racial and religious tribalism.   Why do you think he's the new darling of the alt-right? 

[TomSea]

I respect Daryl Glenn,  TomSea,  just not Donald Trump.   Trump appeals to and exploits ethnic, racial and religious tribalism.   Why do you think he's the new darling of the alt-right?

So, why doesn't Daryl Glenn see what you are saying? Is he stupid? Is Jamiel Shaw's father stupid? Is Sheriff David Clarke all stupid?

Who is Trump racist against?

What are we saying? We want Sanctuary Cities? Open Borders? No checks on Muslim Immigration?

Really, using these kinds of names against the GOP candidate in a Republican or Conservative oriented forum should not go unchallenged.

[Jazzhead]

So, why doesn't Daryl Glenn see what you are saying? Is he stupid? Is Jamiel Shaw's father stupid? Is Sheriff David Clarke all stupid?

Who is Trump racist against?

What are we saying? We want Sanctuary Cities? Open Borders? No checks on Muslim Immigration?

Really, using these kinds of names against the GOP candidate in a Republican or Conservative oriented forum should not go unchallenged.

Careful now.  I called Trump a racialist.   I don't have evidence that he's personally racist.  But his shtick is to exploit ethnic, religious and racial tribalism.   He plays on peoples' fears and prejudices just as Sharpton does.   

 And stuff it with the phony "open borders" charge.   No one here is for "open borders".   What I'm for is comprehensive immigration reform,  so we can get back on the track of economic growth.  We need immigration for that.   

I also have no issue with lawful Muslim immigration.   They ought to have the same opportunity to come here as others do - but we need to reform legal immigration so it emphasizes job skills that the economy needs,  not uniting extended families without regard to employment prospects.   

Most of the misery felt by folks - black, white, Muslim, Christian - these days has to do with a stinkin' lousy economy with anemic growth.   That's the fault of Democratic policy choices, not Trump's alleged enemies and bogeymen.   Paul Ryan's got something to say about that - a  list of sound, conservative tax and regulatory reforms that House Republicans can run on,  even in the face of the abominable choice for President we're faced with. 

   

[kevindavis007]

Trump's appeal is racialist just as Al Sharpton's is - yet another marker for why he's no conservative.

Trump also appeals to people who lives in the past..

[Jazzhead]

Rino Establishment Kaisch... 

RINO?  Trump's the dictionary definition of the term!   

It wasn't John Kasich who gave money to the Clinton Foundation and all manner of Democrat politicians.   

[kevindavis007]

Careful now.  I called Trump a racialist.   I don't have evidence that he's personally racist.  But his shtick is to exploit ethnic, religious and racial tribalism.   He plays on peoples' fears and prejudices just as Sharpton does.   

.

Exactly

 And stuff it with the phony "open borders" charge.   No one here is for "open borders".   What I'm for is comprehensive immigration reform,  so we can get back on the track of economic growth.  We need immigration for that.   

The only people who are for open borders and no resolution are people who wants to make a quick buck out of the issue..

I also have no issue with lawful Muslim immigration.   They ought to have the same opportunity to come here as others do - but we need to reform legal immigration so it emphasizes job skills that the economy needs,  not uniting extended families without regard to employment prospects.   

Agreed.. I'm not a fan of the religion, but the I like the people. I agree we need to reform all aspects on Immigration, but it should be done in pieces..

Most of the misery felt by folks - black, white, Muslim, Christian - these days has to do with a stinkin' lousy economy with anemic growth.   That's the fault of Democratic policy choices, not Trump's alleged enemies and bogeymen.   Paul Ryan's got something to say about that - a  list of sound, conservative tax and regulatory reforms that House Republicans can run on,  even in the face of the abominable choice for President we're faced with. 

To be honest, I blame a lot of talk radio show hosts for the woe is me attitude. But Paul Ryan is a rino. (sarcasm)..

[Wingnut]

That is how I see it as well. We will do better in 2020.. Right now I'm voting GOP down ticket and voting Libertarian for President.

At this point that seems the only logical choice.  Better than leaving the box blank which is the only other option left for people of conscience.

[kevindavis007]

At this point that seems the only logical choice.  Better than leaving the box blank which is the only other option left for people of conscience.

To be honest I'm not a fan of Gary Johnson, but compared to Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, this guy is wonderful.


Am I fan of Mark Kirk from Illinois? No, but considering his opponent, Mark Kirk will make an excellent choice.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Still who won the GOP Ohio primary?   Good job Trump........    Piss off conservatives and Kasich supporters.

Hyperbole much?   

[truth_seeker]

That is how I see it as well. We will do better in 2020.. Right now I'm voting GOP down ticket and voting Libertarian for President.

Libertarian for President; Gary Johnson

-cut military by 43%
-open borders
-same sex marriage
-legalize most drugs
-pro Iran, anti-Israel (does not think nuclear Iran is a threat)
-back off the war on terror

All those "conservative" positions.