Author Topic: Melania Trump Aparently Plagarized Section of Michelle Obama's 2008 Convention Speech  (Read 20683 times)

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Interesting Mech.

Do you frequent the 4chan board “/pol/ - Politically Incorrect” regularly?

What about 8chan /pol/ Politically Incorrect?

Both are havens for the so called “Alt-Right”, i.e. Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists Nationalists, Facists, virulent anti-Semites.  Not to mention filth of all kinds including some posters linking to kiddie porn sites.

The only way I can imagine that you could have found the post by zgWafymD is by going there.

“We are known by the company we keep.”
Nope, this jpg came from TOS on their convention thread. I avoid 4chan seeing as how it trips off security warnings.
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Flaw in your rant is Obama was not the author of those stock First lady phrases. Even Nancy Regan and others used them.
The exact same phrases, in the exact same order, with virtually the exact same words?  Really?

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The exact same phrases, in the exact same order, with virtually the exact same words?  Really?
Yeah, this is a non-issue the democrats want to distract from the damage that Hilary suffered and you will get no traction with it. So fail away. But I do like that the left is showing her speech and in most cases in its entirety to the left, the first time many have seen her and heard her.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Nope, this jpg came from TOS on their convention thread. I avoid 4chan seeing as how it trips off security warnings.

OK. Fair enough. But the point is the source from whence it came. FWIW, I am careful to vette the original source of any quote or link lest I re-post from disreputable sources.

I also find it interesting that you only avoid 4chan /pol/politically incorrect because it trips off security warnings, not that you disagree with the content.
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OK. Fair enough. But the point is the source from whence it came. FWIW, I am careful to vette the original source of any quote or link lest I re-post from disreputable sources.

I also find it interesting that you only avoid 4chan /pol/politically incorrect because it trips off security warnings, not that you disagree with the content.
Point of order. I see more left wing stuff in here then I have ever seen on IRC left-wing channels. I have to assume even four channel is not as far left as what keeps getting posted in here. 
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Point of order. I see more left wing stuff in here then I have ever seen on IRC left-wing channels. I have to assume even four channel is not as far left as what keeps getting posted in here.

I asked you once before to provide a list of "approved" media sources. Certainly The Ministry of Trump Truth has such a list. 

And FWIW, you have posted from sites like Politico in the past when it supports your POV but chastise others when it doesn't.

And 4chan (four channel?) is not a left wing site.  But I think you know that.
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Print screen
Open paint, crop, save file
Open twitter, post image
From twitter, copy image location, paste image url.
Voila.  Like I said, I saw it on Twitter.  Exactly as presented.  You can tell because in the URL there is "pbs.twimg.com" which is Twitter's image archiving site.

Again, in the interests of honesty.  I'm absolutely not for Mech's paid-shill Trumpster BS.

See Mech's response, he lifted the JPEG from TOS. FWIW, not all images with the URL pbs.twimg.com necessarily come from Twitter.
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The same schtick, over and over and over again:


Donald J. Trump
‏@realDonaldTrump
Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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I asked you once before to provide a list of "approved" media sources. Certainly The Ministry of Trump Truth has such a list. 

And FWIW, you have posted from sites like Politico in the past when it supports your POV but chastise others when it doesn't.

And 4chan (four channel?) is not a left wing site.  But I think you know that.
Actually i do not know what 4chan is about since i do not go there. And yes, I am trained in both martial arts and advanced military strategy. Both teach using the opponents strengths against them. That's why I post some polls even tho I know they are fiction as well as liberal sources like politico for people who are so weak-minded/unaware they believe in such.

As far as approved media, due diligence and common sense tells you to look for bias and one of the best ways is money flows. Erick Ericson, Levin, Beck etc took millions in Establishment PAC money and other favors to attack Trump. Left wing press has the agenda of getting Democrats elected. etc.  Just because they produce articles and memes that support one's  own bias is not reason to trust them.  Its not always true that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, for like as discussed above, they can be your enemy too.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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They are hell bent to keep this going.  Melania is complicit in the plagiarism:



This is actually pretty nauseating and it sounds as if she wrote this with a gun to her head.
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Her shelf life is coming due real quick. 


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Trump aide offers resignation in Melania Trump plagiarism incident

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/politics/trump-aide-offers-resignation-in-melania-trump-plagiarism-incident/index.html

Trump Staff Writer Takes Blame for Melania Speech

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-staff-writer-takes-blame-melania-speech-n613366

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A speechwriter for Donald Trump's business took the blame for apparent plagiarism in Melania Trump's convention speech, saying she offered to resign over the error but was asked to stay by Mr. Trump.

According to McIver, Mrs. Trump "always liked" the First Lady and passed on her convention remarks as an "inspiration" for her own speech. Somehow, the passage ended up in the final version largely unchanged.


"Over the phone, she read me some passages from Mrs. Obama's speech as examples," McIver wrote. "I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the draft that ultimately became the final speech. I did not check Mrs. Obama's speeches. This was my mistake and I feel terrible for the chaos I have caused to Melania and the Trumps, as well as to Mrs. Obama."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLvbJ6e_SdI
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Melania plagiarism defenses:
* 7%
* Twilight Sparkle
* Michelle Obama doesn't own words
* John Legend
* Coincidence
* Didn't happen
* OOOPS

This latest excuse implicates Melania in the plagiarism.  She read Michelle's words, and the speechwriter included them.

But it's the speechwriter who has to walk the plank.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Melania plagiarism defenses:
* 7%
* Twilight Sparkle
* Michelle Obama doesn't own words
* John Legend
* Coincidence
* Didn't happen
* OOOPS

This latest excuse implicates Melania in the plagiarism.  She read Michelle's words, and the speechwriter included them.

But it's the speechwriter who has to walk the plank.

Add:

It was a trap set by liberals.

See liberal defense of Dan Rather (2004) @TankerKC @Buckhead


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@Right_in_Virginia

You "love" a politician and his wife?  Do you really?

What do you care, Catty? Really?   Here's something to consider:   Stop trying to make trouble and goad posters into defending every word they post. 

Go get some fresh air.

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The plastic surgery, botox, etc., starts biting back at some point.  Kind of the Pamela Anderson effect.


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Actually no its not, since nothing Obama did was original work Even Nancy Regan used such First Lady Stock phrases. But, it does not matter because it never was an issue but for the left to distract from what was said about Hillary at the convention.

It was a brilliant move tho by the Trump camp since the speech was shown all over the left wing and many on the left could see the entire speech which reached a lot of Democrats with negative information about Hilary.

The issue was the wierd lying about it.  I really couldn't give a care what the wife has to say in a speech. 

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The plastic surgery, botox, etc., starts biting back at some point.  Kind of the Pamela Anderson effect.




Looking a tad long in the tooth for a Trump trophy wife.    You know Trump is going to trade that  high mileage Melanoma model in for a fresh one any day after the election.

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That gives me an idea. I am going to start a new business. Does anyone want to invest?

FirstLadyStockPhrases.com

Here’s the first draft of my ad campaign:

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Don’t be fooled by cheap imitators or by former ballerinas.

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They are hell bent to keep this going.  Melania is complicit in the plagiarism:



This is actually pretty nauseating and it sounds as if she wrote this with a gun to her head.

It is also against campaign laws to use corporate resources (letterhead, employees) in a campaign.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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So this is what the antis are reduced too, imitations of democrats making issues out of nothing that matters.. Pathetic.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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It is also against campaign laws to use corporate resources (letterhead, employees) in a campaign.
Still nothing. But keep failing away. Kinda funny this is what the anti's think matters.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Bloomberg says Trump worth $3 billion:

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.