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It's not the Clintons as would have to worry about prosecution. We know they're crooked as hell, but it's been put together bit by bit.  They are rarely blatant on an individual action.

Trump, on the other hand, has a pair of Senators who now absolutely detest him, and payback's a bitch. The thought of that does make me smile.
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It's not the Clintons as would have to worry about prosecution. We know they're crooked as hell, but it's been put together bit by bit.  They are rarely blatant on an individual action.

Trump, on the other hand, has a pair of Senators who now absolutely detest him, and payback's a bitch. The thought of that does make me smile.

Doesn't mean a thing. Bubbette! can give him a full pardon her first day in office,and there's not a damn thing anybody can do about it. He,and the Clinton's,will have destroyed what remains of the alleged Republican Party  by then,so it's not like they will EVER face any political opposition. There may not even ever be any elections after this one.
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True. She could.

Would she though? He'd no longer be of use and she's not exactly renowned for keeping her word at the best of times. Never mind when she holds all the cards.

Meh, it's hypothetical. It has, as always,been a pleasure, Pete.  :beer:
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True. She could.

Would she though? He'd no longer be of use and she's not exactly renowned for keeping her word at the best of times. Never mind when she holds all the cards.


I think she would have to because sticking him in the back would have to be done in public,and then any future deals she wanted to make with the movers and shakers in the international arena would be at risk.

Don't forget,the international bankers have been making handshake deals for centuries,and you only screw them once and then you are done.

I have no doubt she wouldn't hesitate an instant to screw anyone that wasn't high profile,though.
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His supporters were being 'politically correct' before, because they thought they had to, but they never liked it.  Trump has shown them that they do not have to be politically correct.

So now you see them as they are in private.  Mean, spiteful, hate-filled, bigoted wretches that want *revenge* for every perceived slight. Much like Robespierre and the French Reign of Terror.

You may be right about that.  Perhaps the "nice" was a veneer that Trump love ripped off and their real personalities are what's being displayed now.

Who knows?  But some of these folks act very differently now than they did before Trump got control of them.
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The term charisma doesn't necessary mean someone that is NOT a vulgar creep and boor. 

[3][4][5] use the term "charisma" to describe a particular type of leader having "symbolic leader influence rooted in emotional and ideological foundations".]

It is said, for instance, that the anti-Christ will be so charismatic....that he will fool most of the people of the world.



Having influence can also be charismatic.....like a snake charmer....and like Lucifer.

Valid points, @XenaLee 

If you think of people who have controlled others (dictators aplenty), they haven't necessarily had good personalities to attract people.

But if we're talking Trump here, it's certainly not ideology, since he has absolutely no core whatsoever, so that leaves only emotionalism.

To me there's nothing else that explains the Trump phenomenon other than out-of-control emotions.
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She got her degree from Trump University's quick course
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To me there's nothing else that explains the Trump phenomenon other than out-of-control emotions.

He's a demagogue: "a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument." 

A lot of Americans (and others) have legitimate reasons for being angry with the status quo - for being subject to the political whims of a class that doesn't know or understand them, and who usually despise them.  The decisions of the ruling elite in Western countries are in many ways harmful to the population at large.  And they're looking for a person who can represent their case.

Trump is a born salesman and con-man; he is smart (if undisciplined), and he's a raging narcissist - the three essential elements of a successful demagogue.  He recognizes the anger, and knows how to capitalize on it for his own ends.
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But if we're talking Trump here, it's certainly not ideology, since he has absolutely no core whatsoever, so that leaves only emotionalism.

To me there's nothing else that explains the Trump phenomenon other than out-of-control emotions.

Remember to shove that back in his face the next time Mechanicos insults your opposition of Trump as being 'emotional and not rational'.

Because he projects at a volume that would put a sewer pipe to shame.
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Sigh.

I guess I'm against you, Sarah.


How simple it is right?
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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He's a demagogue: "a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument." 

A lot of Americans (and others) have legitimate reasons for being angry with the status quo - for being subject to the political whims of a class that doesn't know or understand them, and who usually despise them.  The decisions of the ruling elite in Western countries are in many ways harmful to the population at large.  And they're looking for a person who can represent their case.

Trump is a born salesman and con-man; he is smart (if undisciplined), and he's a raging narcissist - the three essential elements of a successful demagogue.  He recognizes the anger, and knows how to capitalize on it for his own ends.

Well said. That is it in a nutshell.

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You may be right about that.  Perhaps the "nice" was a veneer that Trump love ripped off and their real personalities are what's being displayed now.

Who knows?  But some of these folks act very differently now than they did before Trump got control of them.

It's the same as the notion that says one doesn't truly know a person until you see them drunk (as the alcohol drops a person inhibitions).

Only this time Trump.supporters are lowering their inhibitions as keeping them is "PC".

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Remember to shove that back in his face the next time Mechanicos insults your opposition of Trump as being 'emotional and not rational'.

Because he projects at a volume that would put a sewer pipe to shame.

I have the little leftist troll on Ignore.  The only time I see his leftist talking points is when they are being quoted.

But it's enough to keep me amused that he actually thinks any Conservative falls for his dopey attacks.
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He's a demagogue: "a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument." 

A lot of Americans (and others) have legitimate reasons for being angry with the status quo - for being subject to the political whims of a class that doesn't know or understand them, and who usually despise them.  The decisions of the ruling elite in Western countries are in many ways harmful to the population at large.  And they're looking for a person who can represent their case.

Trump is a born salesman and con-man; he is smart (if undisciplined), and he's a raging narcissist - the three essential elements of a successful demagogue.  He recognizes the anger, and knows how to capitalize on it for his own ends.

No argument with any of that.

But for some of us, our anger hasn't made us stupid.......
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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But for some of us, our anger hasn't made us stupid.......

It really shouldn't be this hard to defeat Hillary Clinton.

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It really shouldn't be this hard to defeat Hillary Clinton.

This was the best opportunity we've had to defeat the left.


Only the Trump lovers stole that away from us.


Am I angry at Trump for giving this election to Hillary?  YES!  Am I even angrier at the people who supported his doing that??  YES!!
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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All I know is that some formerly polite, nice people have turned very ugly because of their love for Trump, and it's unnerving....

It IS unnerving. I agree. It's sort of like when a thoughtless, disrespectful, brat of a child, is in your care. Before you know it, you become the same way.
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It IS unnerving. I agree. It's sort of like when a thoughtless, disrespectful, brat of a child, is in your care. Before you know it, you become the same way.

They adopted the Alinsky tactics and all the progressive ideology and behavior that comes with it.

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Am I angry at Trump for giving this election to Hillary?  YES!  Am I even angrier at the people who supported his doing that??  YES!!

See Tagline.

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See Tagline.

Your tagline is absolutely perfect!
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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This was the best opportunity we've had to defeat the left.


Only the Trump lovers stole that away from us.


Am I angry at Trump for giving this election to Hillary?  YES!  Am I even angrier at the people who supported his doing that??  YES!!

Well said.

Its exactly as I felt when Arnold decided that playing governor would be great fun and took the nomination from Tom McClintock here in CA. And guaranteed this place was lost to the left forever.

He and his star struck acolytes threw away this state's last best chance.

I see the exact same thing happening here on a national scale.
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It really shouldn't be this hard to defeat Hillary Clinton.

In theory, and with apologies to Fiorello H. La Guardia, someone should have been able to run
on a laundry ticket and beat Hilarious Rodent Clinton.

Can we find someone to run on that laundry ticket? Because he or she would a) have a better
chance and b) prove eons more qualified than Donaldus Minimus.


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Well said.

Its exactly as I felt when Arnold decided that playing governor would be great fun and took the nomination from Tom McClintock here in CA. And guaranteed this place was lost to the left forever.

He and his star struck acolytes threw away this state's last best chance.

I see the exact same thing happening here on a national scale.

Yep, we've seen this movie before and we know how it ends.

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Valid points, @XenaLee 

If you think of people who have controlled others (dictators aplenty), they haven't necessarily had good personalities to attract people.

But if we're talking Trump here, it's certainly not ideology, since he has absolutely no core whatsoever, so that leaves only emotionalism.

To me there's nothing else that explains the Trump phenomenon other than out-of-control emotions.

Exactly.  That same emotionalism that we have had to endure and observe from rabid FATM lefties for decades now.  So no, it's no accident that some of the Trump supporters remind us of those same lefties. 
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Your tagline is absolutely perfect!
Dittos.  It is an excellent tagline @Salem Poor