Trump Is a Man On An Island -- And LOSING

[aligncare]

It's definitely not 'that', @XenaLee

It's just that BS argument/point has been explained/refuted dozens of times.

It's B.O.R.I.N.G.

More like hundreds of times...like I've got nothing better to do then to personally go round and round with each and every #NeverTrump -- I've got a practice to run. Like they never heard of Google? Four bankruptcies out of 500 companies. You do the math on Trump's success rate, it's better than most multibillion dollar companies.

Look, I no longer need to justify my support for Donald Trump. That part is over. Now it's up to #NeverTrump to justify itself to the rest of us. We have a presumptive nominee and we have an America to save. I know whose side I'm on.

I'm not the one that's out of step with the effort to elect a Republican president and do my part to begin repairing the damage.

[HoustonSam]

Look, I no longer need to justify my support for Donald Trump. That part is over. Now it's up to #NeverTrump to justify itself to the rest of us.

No.  You are certainly free to challenge my thinking or that of anyone else who does not support Trump.  But you are are not a judge or jury, and those who don't support Trump are not on trial, just as you are not on trial for choosing to support him, and you owe me no justification for that support.  No one owes anyone else a justification for their beliefs or their intentions in voting or in not voting.

[massadvj]

Look, I no longer need to justify my support for Donald Trump. That part is over. Now it's up to #NeverTrump to justify itself to the rest of us. We have a presumptive nominee and we have an America to save. I know whose side I'm on.

I agree that you have no need to justify your support for Trump. 

But in conventional politics, Trump has a need to win the support of those who did not support him in the primary.  So far he has done nothing except indicate that he thinks he can win without us.  I have no obligation to back a nominee who has not asked for my support.

[musiclady]

I agree that you have no need to justify your support for Trump. 

But in conventional politics, Trump has a need to win the support of those who did not support him in the primary.  So far he has done nothing except indicate that he thinks he can win without us.  I have no obligation to back a nominee who has not asked for my support.

More than not asking for our support, he has mocked us and pretty much told us not to support him.

I am more than happy to oblige, since I have never voted for a thug for President.

[Bigun]

More like hundreds of times...like I've got nothing better to do then to personally go round and round with each and every #NeverTrump -- I've got a practice to run. Like they never heard of Google? Four bankruptcies out of 500 companies. You do the math on Trump's success rate, it's better than most multibillion dollar companies.

Look, I no longer need to justify my support for Donald Trump. That part is over. Now it's up to #NeverTrump to justify itself to the rest of us. We have a presumptive nominee and we have an America to save. I know whose side I'm on.

I'm not the one that's out of step with the effort to elect a Republican president and do my part to begin repairing the damage.

Not that I need to explain it to you but my #nevertrump status is fully justified by the FACT that Donald J. Trump is neither a republican or a conservative. Beyond that the fact's and evidence lead me to conclude that he is just as bad  or worse than Hillary so I will vote for neither.

[XenaLee]

Not that I need to explain it to you but my #nevertrump status is fully justified by the FACT that Donald J. Trump is neither a republican or a conservative. Beyond that the fact's and evidence lead me to conclude that he is just as bad  or worse than Hillary so I will vote for neither.

Well, Bigun.  This is just amazing.  Ask a pertinent question re: their "claim" that Trump has a high IQ, is street-smart and therefore, brilliant vs. Trump's many business failures....and get nothing but deflection, obfuscation and lame cracks about being boring and "already been answered". 

Seems to me that the Trump fans here should be able to explain his failures (Trump Airlines, Trump casinos, Trump Vodka, Trump U, Trump Mtg. plus four bankruptcies) easily, since Trump is so brilliant.  It had to be due to something real easy to explain.  Right?

[jedidah]

Well...since I'm a newbie here, and haven't read every thread and post here....perhaps you could answer the question for me then.  Boring or no, it should be an easy task to respond convincingly.  Right?

@XenaLee   Apparently not.   

[Bigun]

Well, Bigun.  This is just amazing.  Ask a pertinent question re: their "claim" that Trump has a high IQ, is street-smart and therefore, brilliant vs. Trump's many business failures....and get nothing but deflection, obfuscation and lame cracks about being boring and "already been answered". 

Seems to me that the Trump fans here should be able to explain his failures (Trump Airlines, Trump casinos, Trump Vodka, Trump U, Trump Mtg. plus four bankruptcies) easily, since Trump is so brilliant.  It had to be due to something real easy to explain.  Right?

The siren song of TRump is powerful indeed!

[XenaLee]

The siren song of TRump is powerful indeed!

Siren song, indeed.  I think a lot of these guys look up to Trump because of his close proximity to pageant contestants, the Playboy lifestyle and the Hugh-Heffner-like background.  None of which bode well for the nation re: how Trump would "lead" (off the same cliff?).  After all is said and done, The Don is still a fat cat rich liberal from New York that supported the Democrats that are working to destroy us from within. 

[Bigun]

Siren song, indeed.  I think a lot of these guys look up to Trump because of his close proximity to pageant contestants, the Playboy lifestyle and the Hugh-Heffner-like background.  None of which bode well for the nation re: how Trump would "lead" (off the same cliff?).  After all is said and done, The Don is still a fat cat rich liberal from New York that supported the Democrats that are working to destroy us from within.

Word!   

[kartographer]

The siren song of TRump is powerful indeed!

Lonesome Rhodes: Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine! I own 'em! They think like I do. Only they're even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for 'em.

[txradioguy]

Well, Bigun.  This is just amazing.  Ask a pertinent question re: their "claim" that Trump has a high IQ, is street-smart and therefore, brilliant vs. Trump's many business failures....and get nothing but deflection, obfuscation and lame cracks about being boring and "already been answered".

That's because it's gotten so hard to defend Trump and all of his issues the Trumpbots reflexively respond in the manner they did to you.  Trumkins really haven't addressed Trumps problems...nor do they intend to.  They will just sputter and stammer something about "well you must want Hillary to win" or some such blather.

Seems to me that the Trump fans here should be able to explain his failures (Trump Airlines, Trump casinos, Trump Vodka, Trump U, Trump Mtg. plus four bankruptcies) easily, since Trump is so brilliant.  It had to be due to something real easy to explain.  Right?

Trumkins actually cite that stuff as either a)signs of his business brilliance and why he should be anointed President or b) hateful made up lies by Liberal media and/or #nevertrump Hillary supporters.

[Cowboyway]

I have no obligation to back a nominee who has not asked for my support.

Or earned it.

[Bigun]

Lonesome Rhodes: Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine! I own 'em! They think like I do. Only they're even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for 'em.

Exactly!  Good find!

[Right_in_Virginia]

Seems to me that the Trump fans here should be able to explain his failures (Trump Airlines, Trump casinos, Trump Vodka, Trump U, Trump Mtg. plus four bankruptcies) easily, since Trump is so brilliant.  It had to be due to something real easy to explain.  Right?

It appears you're drawn to whatever negative is reported about Mr. Trump @XenaLee  If you want to know why some of his start-ups closed, do your own research.  I, for one, am tired of explaining this to every newcomer to this site.

But if you're interested in Mr. Trump's global business successes, start here: http://www.trump.com/

If this answer isn't good enough for you, then you're just looking to argue a moot point.

Good luck with that.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I agree that you have no need to justify your support for Trump. 

But in conventional politics, Trump has a need to win the support of those who did not support him in the primary.  So far he has done nothing except indicate that he thinks he can win without us.  I have no obligation to back a nominee who has not asked for my support.

So the "I'm standing on principle" mantra is over and the new one is "he's not asked for my support"?

Good to know @massadvj    I assume y'all are working on the next one.

[txradioguy]

So the "I'm standing on principle" mantra is over and the new one is "he's not asked for my support"?

Good to know @massadvj    I assume y'all are working on the next one.

Not what he said or meant and you know it.  Having a candidate at least show he's willing to include Constitutional Conservatives in the mix and appeal to some of their core beliefs IS standing on principal for those that Trump needs votes from.

Interesting that you can't see how the to are one in the same.

[ScottinVA]

Look, I no longer need to justify my support for Donald Trump. That part is over. Now it's up to #NeverTrump to justify itself to the rest of us. We have a presumptive nominee and we have an America to save. I know whose side I'm on.

Those who don't support Trump aren't required to "prove" anything.  What will prove Trump's failure is his coming landslide defeat in November.  He garnered only a plurality of support in the minority party.  Equating that to wide electoral support -- which he will never have -- is absolute insanity. 

Trump will lose by a landslide not seen since Reagan-Mondale 1984.  It will make the Goldwater drubbing look like a close contest.

[DCPatriot]

Those who don't support Trump aren't required to "prove" anything.  What will prove Trump's failure is his coming landslide defeat in November.  He garnered only a plurality of support in the minority party.  Equating that to wide electoral support -- which he will never have -- is absolute insanity. 

Trump will lose by a landslide not seen since Reagan-Mondale 1984.  It will make the Goldwater drubbing look like a close contest.

That may prove to be true, @ScottinVA

But it won't be because I didn't vote for him.   

In the meantime, your kid and grandkids are going to be whispering and pointing at you in the corner each and every Thanksgiving...for not having the balls to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for her #1 opponent.

Wear it proudly.   

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

That may prove to be true, @ScottinVA

But it won't be because I didn't vote for him.   

In the meantime, your kid and grandkids are going to be whispering and pointing at you in the corner each and every Thanksgiving...for not having the balls to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for her #1 opponent.

Wear it proudly.   

Or maybe they'll be pointing at you, for being taken in by a conman and grifter?

[XenaLee]

It appears you're drawn to whatever negative is reported about Mr. Trump @XenaLee  If you want to know why some of his start-ups closed, do your own research.  I, for one, am tired of explaining this to every newcomer to this site.

But if you're interested in Mr. Trump's global business successes, start here: http://www.trump.com/

If this answer isn't good enough for you, then you're just looking to argue a moot point.

Good luck with that.

Sorry...BUT....the disconnect with the pro-Trump side is glaring.  On one hand it is claimed that Trump has a high IQ and has street smarts.  But his many business failures are FACT, not supposition on your part about what I am or am not ""drawn to""...and not something dreamed up.  Pointing to his many "global business successes" in an attempt to steer away folks that ask that question isn't going to change that fact, no matter how hard you try. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sorry...BUT....the disconnect with the pro-Trump side is glaring.

With all due respect, @XenaLee you're too new to decide what is and is not glaring, especially when it comes to the pro-Trump people.

One. Last. Time.:  This has been discussed ad nauseam.  Sorry you missed it.  But, please don't go throwing around terms like "disconnect" just because you did.

Done.

[XenaLee]

With all due respect, @XenaLee you're too new to decide what is and is not glaring, especially when it comes to the pro-Trump people.

One. Last. Time.:  This has been discussed ad nauseam.  Sorry you missed it.  But, please don't go throwing around terms like "disconnect" just because you did.

Done.

Oh, brother.  Sanctimonious much? 

I may be new to this forum, but I'm certainly not new to the internet.  And I know full well what I'm talking about when I point out Trump's many business flops.  And just so you know....I will throw around any damned term I want to ...as long as that term does not violate the rules here.

Got it?

[sinkspur]

From the CNN poll, released this morning:

[musiclady]

Oh, brother.  Sanctimonious much? 

I may be new to this forum, but I'm certainly not new to the internet.  And I know full well what I'm talking about when I point out Trump's many business flops.  And just so you know....I will throw around any damned term I want to ...as long as that term does not violate the rules here.

Got it?

That one is best viewed on "Ignore."    Sanctimonious ain't the half of it......