Trump Is a Man On An Island -- And LOSING

[jedidah]

That said, I would be shocked if Trump asked.  He has said in interviews that he likes to surround himself with unsuccessful people  so that they look up to him and listen to what he says.

Seriously?  That is truly frightening.

[musiclady]

Seriously?  That is truly frightening.

I heard the interview multiple times on the Glenn Beck program.  In his own words, a very sad declaration of his own pathetic insecurity.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Seriously?  That is truly frightening.

Donald Trump broke from his usual political script for part of a campaign rally on Wednesday to offer advice for success to his college audience. One boastful tip from Trump: “Always be around unsuccessful people because everybody will respect you.”

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[musiclady]

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So he's still saying that???  Parading his gross insecurity in front of thousands!

How pathetic is this man??

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

What's sad is that Trump thinks he's respected.

[musiclady]

What's sad is that Trump thinks he's respected.

I'm not sure about that.  Frequently the people with the most obnoxious and enormous egos are the most insecure.

I think Trump is grossly insecure, which is why he needs to be the center of attention all the time, why he insults whoever disagrees with him, why he speaks abusively about women, and why he whines like a 5 year old that people aren't being "fair" to him.

He's a weak and pathetic human being.

[DCPatriot]

@RoosGirl

I took @DCPatriot 's "we" to refer to the collective society rather than to you and me.  You're living rightly and responsibly, as did my spouse and I in rearing our (now very conservative and responsible adult) children.  Kudos.

But the good conservative folks in our society have indeed taken our eye off the ball.  Collectively, we've let the loud and nasty take over. 

Personally, I think it's just that we have spent our lives working hard, being good, helping our neighbors, living quietly and responsibly -- and meanwhile twisted ideology has loudly claimed too much of our culture.  They are nastier than we are.  Doing our own little part wasn't enough.

I know Trump supporters who are good, quiet, honorable people.  They're not like the hyenas on TOS.  And the absolute underpinning of their support for Trump is that they are angry because of what I said in the last paragraph.  They want him to fix it.  I have no reason to think he can or will even try.  But they are naively hopeful.

They follow the law...they have lawns to cut on the weekend.  Their health insurance costs means they go without 2nd cars...or severely downgraded.

But they trust that their children graduate with a college degree and are ready to enter the world.

Instead...they're all Socialists and Bernie fans.

Would more influence on the local school board change it?  Not anymore, IMO.   Today, your attempt would be viewed as hate speech.

It's gotten so bad.....

[jedidah]

Frequently the people with the most obnoxious and enormous egos are the most insecure.

We've had 8 years of that already.

[musiclady]

We've had 8 years of that already.

We certainly have.

And I don't want four more of the same nonsense.....

[Labette]

As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, "what do you mean 'we' White Man?"

It just so happens to be the only Lone Ranger joke from my youth that is fit to tell.  Our local version went, "What you mean WE, paleface?"

[RoosGirl]

They follow the law...they have lawns to cut on the weekend.  Their health insurance costs means they go without 2nd cars...or severely downgraded.

But they trust that their children graduate with a college degree and are ready to enter the world.

Instead...they're all Socialists and Bernie fans.

Would more influence on the local school board change it?  Not anymore, IMO.   Today, your attempt would be viewed as hate speech.

It's gotten so bad.....

I have considered a run at the school board, my thinking we've got to start somewhere.  But then I will be homeschooling so I figure that wouldn't go over so well. :)

[OldSaltUSN]

I can think of one name immediately. Allen West!

I could go for Allen West, but he hasn't got the electoral experience.  With getting burned by the likes of Carson and Cain, as well as Trump, I don't think that the party is going to place it's bet on Col. West (who certainly has superior credentials at this point, then either of the other two.  (PS: That last post has NOTHING to do with race; the three men just happened to be black, GOP outsiders, e.g. comparable.)

@Sanguine   Rand Paul and I, as a conservative Christian, are certainly on different wavelengths at the moment.  Can't recall what it was, but he was on my permanent dung list.  However, I think the guy is honest, and he's far more conservative than Trump or Hitlery, so I'd consider him.  I just don't thank Rand would consider me and my ilk, however.      The main thing is, he has a negative electoral track record.  What's the reason for selecting Rand Paul, when Cruz got many more votes, and has the ground team ready to rock?  It would just be a #NeverCruz move, and if that's what dumping Trump is all about, hell, why bother?

@jmyrlefuller   I honestly don't have a good response for LePage or Snyder, but I took them for just another Kasich.  I'm not sure I could stomach that.

@sitetest :  Same as my last response:  I was pretty sure that I had Mitch Daniels pegged as a RINO, albeit more successful RINO.  Mike Pence: heard some stuff, but I'm uninformed on him.

Really, what all this is saying is that Trump so poisoned the well on Cruz, the next top vote getter, and best prepared to run against Hillary, that this has to be a #NeverCruz campaign, to hope to get Trumpkins on board, to united the party.

So, we're going to all jump on the GOP-e train to derail the Trump train?   Um... I think not.  I'll hold out for the last genuine conservative and outsider standing, the voters next highest preference, the guy with the most delegates ready to vote FOR him, the guy who would immediately have a viable ground game in 50 states, and a guy who could raise significant money pretty darn quickly.  Heck, 65% of the GOP would be so grateful to be rid of Trump, they might be willing elect Cruz "King" if he'll just beat Hillary in November.

I tried to get to a Trumpless, Cruzless GOP victory in November.  If it's not going to be Trump, and I"ve laid out my reasons for believing he has no chance at all in November, it'll have to be Cruz, or it'll be nobody.   I admit my bias, but I'm far from alone in the GOP in support of Cruz, and the other facts I laid out favoring Cruz versus Hillary, are absolutely accurate and valid.

Unfortunately, this is all fantasy.  Trump will be the GOP nominee, whether he wants to run or not, Hillary will win, and that'll be that.

[DCPatriot]

I have considered a run at the school board, my thinking we've got to start somewhere.  But then I will be homeschooling so I figure that wouldn't go over so well. :)

LOL!  No...not so well!

 

[goatprairie]

All that available talent in the GOP field and primary voters select the absolutely worst possible candidate.  And oh, by the way... whatever happened to all those "crossover dems" who voted for Trump?  Ah yes... they're now high-fiving each other after effectively handing Hillary the election.   

This was once a winnable election, folks.  But when the guaranteed general election loser rose to the top of the GOP polls, the dems jumped into "Operation Chaos" mode.  And here we are, facing an epic azz kicking in November that will make Goldwater's 1964 defeat seem like a squeaker by comparison.

All that available talent in the GOP field and primary voters select the absolutely worst possible candidate

That's what really frosts me. We had a number of excellent conservative candidates, and they all got tossed in the waste.  We end up with the least conservative, most ignorant candidate ever. And all the big names in conservative talk radio who ranted for decades about electing principled, moral conservatives tossed their integrity overboard to back this skunk.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

All that available talent in the GOP field and primary voters select the absolutely worst possible candidate

That's what really frosts me. We had a number of excellent conservative candidates, and they all got tossed in the waste.  We end up with the least conservative, most ignorant candidate ever. And all the big names in conservative talk radio who ranted for decades about electing principled, moral conservatives tossed their integrity overboard to back this skunk.

Well Trump will destroy the uniparty!

[NavyCanDo]

Well Trump will destroy the uniparty!

The myth of the "uniparty" gave us Donald Trump.   

Shall we go over all the Democrat Bills including a bunch of gun control measures that were blocked by Republicans?   There is a web site devoted to listing the Bills Republicans have Blocked since President Obama took Office.  Are the elected Republicans perfect?  Hell no, but it can be argued that they are no less conservative that the Republicans in office during Reagan's term in office, and maybe even more conservative. 

[HonestJohn]

All that available talent in the GOP field and primary voters select the absolutely worst possible candidate

That's what really frosts me. We had a number of excellent conservative candidates, and they all got tossed in the waste.  We end up with the least conservative, most ignorant candidate ever. And all the big names in conservative talk radio who ranted for decades about electing principled, moral conservatives tossed their integrity overboard to back this skunk.

He used the 'right' dog whistles and they came running.

[bilo]

Someone like Mitch Daniels,  or Mike Pence would do for me.  They've been in the belly of the beast, but got out.  Daniels is currently president of Purdue.  MIke Pence  is Governor of Indiana.   On good terms with the establishment, but not really establishment themselves.

I think there are some folks who could make a good run in November,  and even win.

Pence is like Palin to me, worthless when it counts. Pence was so lukewarm in his support for Cruz that Trump crushed him in IN.

As long as we are speculating, I agree Daniels would be a very good pick but I would also throw Walker into the mix. He has a track record under pressure that is hard to match.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The myth of the "uniparty" gave us Donald Trump.   

Shall we go over all the Democrat Bills including a bunch of gun control measures that were blocked by Republicans?   There is a web site devoted to listing the Bills Republicans have Blocked since President Obama took Office.  Are the elected Republicans perfect?  Hell no, but it can be argued that they are no less conservative that the Republicans in office during Reagan's term in office, and maybe even more conservative.

Myth?  What about the dozens of  Executive Orders .... has any republican threatened to sue Obama---or done it or introduced legislation to neuter them?  What about the flood of Syrian "refugees"?  What about the Obama budget?  What about defunding Obamacare?  What about TPP"?  What about the "deal" with Iran and removing sanctions?  What about those Benghazi hearings?  What about those VA hearings?  What about those IRS hearings?

"Myth", my arse.

[XenaLee]

All that available talent in the GOP field and primary voters select the absolutely worst possible candidate

That's what really frosts me. We had a number of excellent conservative candidates, and they all got tossed in the waste.  We end up with the least conservative, most ignorant candidate ever. And all the big names in conservative talk radio who ranted for decades about electing principled, moral conservatives tossed their integrity overboard to back this skunk.

Uh, no.  Not all.  Certainly not Mark Levin.  And even Rush has been 'on the fence' and cautious about praising Trump, much less endorsing him.  And Michael Berry is anti-Trump.

[HonestJohn]

Myth?  What about the dozens of  Executive Orders .... has any republican threatened to sue Obama---or done it or introduced legislation to neuter them?  What about the flood of Syrian "refugees"?  What about the Obama budget?  What about defunding Obamacare?  What about TPP"?  What about the "deal" with Iran and removing sanctions?  What about those Benghazi hearings?  What about those VA hearings?  What about those IRS hearings?

"Myth", my arse.

The GOP in Congress initiated a lawsuit againt his DACA order and the courts overturned it.  I remember at two others (if not the exact nature anymore).

[Right_in_Virginia]

The GOP in Congress initiated a lawsuit againt his DACA order and the courts overturned it.  I remember at two others (if not the exact nature anymore).

Okay...they tried, failed and folded.

What about the rest?

[HonestJohn]

Okay...they tried, failed and folded.

What about the rest?

No, they were successful.  The DACA bit was stopped.

[bilo]

All that available talent in the GOP field and primary voters select the absolutely worst possible candidate

That's what really frosts me. We had a number of excellent conservative candidates, and they all got tossed in the waste.  We end up with the least conservative, most ignorant candidate ever. And all the big names in conservative talk radio who ranted for decades about electing principled, moral conservatives tossed their integrity overboard to back this skunk.

I thought some made it clear that they weren't big Trump supporters. Rush comes to mind right off the bat. He didn't bash Trump but he did say on many occasions that Cruz was the best conservative we had since Reagan.

I am just as mad as you about Trump being the nominee. We are now in a situation where we have to just watch him go down in flames. If the GOP replaces him at the convention the Trump supporters will never support an adult conservative again. In 4 years we will need them to see what happens when you nominate an immature blowhard and to get behind a serious conservative. 

[sitetest]

If the party ever wants me back,  it will need to purge itself of all the trumpers.