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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2016, 07:45:16 pm »
I wonder how long before the #neverTrumpers admit they were wrong for attacking Trump over this and when will they go after Huffington post for lying about Trump's tweets here?

If you want to be angry at somebody, be angry this was another Gun-Free zone mass murder.


Have you ever seen any of the admit to being wrong about ANYTHING related to Trump? They don't have it in them...they must paint him as aggregation of Hitler, the Anti-Christ and Saul Alinsky...in other words, they've passed over to irrational hatred, and all they are now capable of is emoting about their anger/hate of the man.

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The people treat Trump like he's the worst ever yet we've had worse candidates and yet the have complained for years they want someone anti pc. Well here he is.

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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2016, 07:46:02 pm »
Donald Trump says the United States should kill the family members of terrorists, and not to do so is just being "politically correct."

"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," Trump said on Fox and Friends on Dec. 2, 2015. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/17/rand-paul/rand-pauls-right-geneva-conventions-bar-donald-tru/

End of Trump moral argument.  Nothing Constitutional about Donald Trump policy.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2016, 07:49:00 pm »
No, I"m not OK with banning the KKK. Even idiots have a right to speak and exist, if they take criminal actions than they go to jail. But they are not an establishment of religion. If you think calling it a cult makes it OK to ban it, the same could one day happen to....say...Southern Baptists or Lutheran churches or anything, really. You take that kind of subjective approach to defining what is and is not a religion and everything is suddenly open to that label. Once you head down that road, you won't like where it ends. Islam is a religion, period. Radical Islam is a disgusting and horrific ideology that we must stomp out, here and abroad, but your approach would make things worse AND destroy our constitution. There is much we can do to combat radical Islam, but banning mosques is not on that list.

That is a reach and a scare tactic.  Southern Baptists have been here forever.  My ancestors were Baptist missionaries in the 1700's.  And Southern Baptists and Lutherans never advocate violence in any form.

Don't do the apples and oranges thing.  It doesn't fly.  It would be almost impossible to totally ban Mosques ... in the present climate of tolerance for anything and everything, but there are things that could be done to make Mosques less dangerous.  They should all be infiltrated to make sure that they are not training grounds for terrorists.

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« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2016, 07:49:20 pm »
If Western civilization is to survive, islam needs to be reclassified as a geopolitical movement and not a religion. This infiltration, financed in large part by the Saudis, is going to destroy the West and its Judeo-Christian foundations.  The islamists see our freedoms as a perfect opportunity to end our way of life. Taqqiya, hijera, sharia and jihad are here. Obama and Hitlery both have handlers from the muslim brotherhood. We ignore the reality at our peril.

And what will you do 30 years from now, when a liberal progressive government deems Christianity to be a "geopolitical" movement rather than a religion?

If you allow that sort of subjectivity to creep into our legal definition of religion under the constitution, you will have completely removed any protections any religious practice has under our government. We must fight radical Islam, and defeat it without destroying the core of the US Constitution. That honestly is the task of this and our next generation, as this is a fight that will endure for this century at the minimum. But we have remember who we are, because that is what defines us from what they are.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2016, 07:50:51 pm »
If Western civilization is to survive, islam needs to be reclassified as a geopolitical movement and not a religion. This infiltration, financed in large part by the Saudis, is going to destroy the West and its Judeo-Christian foundations.  The islamists see our freedoms as a perfect opportunity to end our way of life. Taqqiya, hijera, sharia and jihad are here. Obama and Hitlery both have handlers from the muslim brotherhood. We ignore the reality at our peril.

You are exactly right.  Terrorism should not be tolerated if it operates under the banner of religion.
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« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2016, 07:51:19 pm »
And your point is......??

The bump he's going to get for this is going to make everyone forget about the La Raza judge.    :laugh:

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« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2016, 07:52:20 pm »
Donald Trump says the United States should kill the family members of terrorists, and not to do so is just being "politically correct."

"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," Trump said on Fox and Friends on Dec. 2, 2015. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/17/rand-paul/rand-pauls-right-geneva-conventions-bar-donald-tru/

End of Trump moral argument.  Nothing Constitutional about Donald Trump policy.

He is right, and we have already done this many times. You cannot withold your fire in war because a terrorist is hiding out with his family. What he is saying is that in war, we must wage war. For gosh sakes, our bombing campaign against Japan and Germany was specifically targeted at killing civilians...and it was incredibly effective in doing so. That does not mean we now quit trying minimize collateral damage, just that we cannot let humane considerations prevent us from actually fighting back.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2016, 07:58:14 pm »
Terrorist families are not US citizens and so the constitution does not apply to them. International law is another story, but that's an entirely other debate. And your statement about a religious institution promoting violence and so not being protected by the constitution...is simply not correct in any legal sense. Unless, of course, you are arguing that every mosque in America is an explicit participant in the carrying out of specific terror attacks...which would be a ludicrous assertion. That said, a mosque that is directly involved in a terror attack certainly could be subject to closure and its leadership arrested for a crime...but you cannot generalize without violating the US constitution.

Full disclosure, I work for the Department of Homeland Security.

Wrong, they are citizens.  There are many home grown terrorists.  This terrorist that shot up the night club was a citizen and I believe his family is also.  You work for Homeland?  I would seriously wonder how a person like you could defend America???  I agree with the person who said that the terrorist form of Islam is not religion but a form of government.  We cannot have two forms of government.  The Extreme Islamic governing system will not fit with our Constitution.  Thus no longer is protected.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2016, 08:03:17 pm »
He is right, and we have already done this many times. You cannot withold your fire in war because a terrorist is hiding out with his family. What he is saying is that in war, we must wage war. For gosh sakes, our bombing campaign against Japan and Germany was specifically targeted at killing civilians...and it was incredibly effective in doing so. That does not mean we now quit trying minimize collateral damage, just that we cannot let humane considerations prevent us from actually fighting back.

OK lets visualize what you are saying.  This homegrown terrorist, citizen of United States commits terrorism killing 50 and injuring some 50 others.  Homeland Security goes to family home of terrorists and opens fire on family members.  Women, children whether or not they are engaged in communication or subscription to extremism.......  The saying is we aren't in Texas anymore Todo.  Are we in America?
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2016, 08:05:37 pm »
He'll figure out a way to screw it up.  He ALWAYS does.

If you don't mind 50 deaths, then the terrorist did the Donald a favor.

He contributed to the outrage that brought people to Trump to begin with.  Sadly, Trump doesn't have a clue as to how this should be handled or could have been prevented.

And he WILL screw it up.  He always does.
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« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2016, 08:06:23 pm »
OK lets visualize what you are saying.  This homegrown terrorist, citizen of United States commits terrorism killing 50 and injuring some 50 others.  Homeland Security goes to family home of terrorists and opens fire on family members.  Women, children whether or not they are engaged in communication or subscription to extremism.......  The saying is we aren't in Texas anymore Todo.  Are we in America?
All the have to do is say the family was Christian like in Waco. This government has no problem killing women and children.
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« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2016, 08:08:20 pm »
And what will you do 30 years from now, when a liberal progressive government deems Christianity to be a "geopolitical" movement rather than a religion?

If you allow that sort of subjectivity to creep into our legal definition of religion under the constitution, you will have completely removed any protections any religious practice has under our government. We must fight radical Islam, and defeat it without destroying the core of the US Constitution. That honestly is the task of this and our next generation, as this is a fight that will endure for this century at the minimum. But we have remember who we are, because that is what defines us from what they are.

I do not believe the Founders ever imagined that islam would come to America. They were fighting the Barbary pirates and considered them a scourge. I do not believe the Founders would have included islam as a religion since it is not one, but rather a movement to subjugate the world. There was not a single mosque in the USA until 1929. Until we recognize that islam does not deserve protection under our Constitution- we are doomed. Obama and Hitlery both have handlers from the Muslim Brotherhood. We have been sold out at the highest level of our government.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2016, 08:09:02 pm »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-orlando_us_575d92e6e4b0e39a28addbe6?utm_hp_ref=politics

Just when you think Trump couldn't be any bigger of a jackass as he's been, click on the link and read his tweets.  Words cannot describe it.

Oh, I suspect that when it comes to showing the world what a jackass he is, he's just getting started.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2016, 08:10:40 pm »
And what will you do 30 years from now, when a liberal progressive government deems Christianity to be a "geopolitical" movement rather than a religion?

If you allow that sort of subjectivity to creep into our legal definition of religion under the constitution, you will have completely removed any protections any religious practice has under our government. We must fight radical Islam, and defeat it without destroying the core of the US Constitution. That honestly is the task of this and our next generation, as this is a fight that will endure for this century at the minimum. But we have remember who we are, because that is what defines us from what they are.

Christianity is not a form of government.  Christians law is written on our hearts.  Free will choice for anyone to accept.  Not something to regulate American citizens.  ME countries are ruled by Sharia Law which is in direct conflict with our Constitution.  We have to be diligent to distinguish the threat of a foreign governing system which conflicts with other people's freedom.

You are all over the place not even sticking to one position or the other.  Kill them, no don't regulate their political system......... you are just like Trump........ react without thinking.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2016, 08:26:20 pm »
Let us leave the politicization of violent attacks against Americans to the Democrats.  .  .  .

But Trump is a Democrat.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2016, 08:29:58 pm »
Donald Trump says the United States should kill the family members of terrorists, and not to do so is just being "politically correct."

"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," Trump said on Fox and Friends on Dec. 2, 2015. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families."


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/17/rand-paul/rand-pauls-right-geneva-conventions-bar-donald-tru/

End of Trump moral argument.  Nothing Constitutional about Donald Trump policy.


Christianity is not a form of government.  Christians law is written on our hearts.  Free will choice for anyone to accept.  Not something to regulate American citizens.  ME countries are ruled by Sharia Law which is in direct conflict with our Constitution.  We have to be diligent to distinguish the threat of a foreign governing system which conflicts with other people's freedom.

You are all over the place not even sticking to one position or the other.  Kill them, no don't regulate their political system......... you are just like Trump........ react without thinking.
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« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2016, 08:33:32 pm »
Wrong, they are citizens.  There are many home grown terrorists.  This terrorist that shot up the night club was a citizen and I believe his family is also.  You work for Homeland?  I would seriously wonder how a person like you could defend America???  I agree with the person who said that the terrorist form of Islam is not religion but a form of government.  We cannot have two forms of government.  The Extreme Islamic governing system will not fit with our Constitution.  Thus no longer is protected.

No one has called for killing the families of terrorists who are US citizens. And again, you don't get to decide what is and is not a religion...especially with something that has been universally known as such for 1400+ years. You do down that road, you will eventually find Christianity in this country given exactly the same treatment...and that's not even addressing how unfair it would be to all of the peaceful muslims who are good citizens of this country. I know many of them, as my wife teaches at a school with a large muslim population. We cannot be PC or delicate in going after radical Islam, but we are doomed to fail if we through all muslims into one post and declare their beliefs to be unworthy of being called religion. That is insanity.
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« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2016, 08:37:23 pm »
OK lets visualize what you are saying.  This homegrown terrorist, citizen of United States commits terrorism killing 50 and injuring some 50 others.  Homeland Security goes to family home of terrorists and opens fire on family members.  Women, children whether or not they are engaged in communication or subscription to extremism.......  The saying is we aren't in Texas anymore Todo.  Are we in America?

Who is advocating for such a thing...certainly not Mr. Trump? Its ludicrous to even contemplate...and I've no idea why you would suggest such a bizarre action would occur under our government.
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« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2016, 08:50:26 pm »
Who is advocating for such a thing...certainly not Mr. Trump? Its ludicrous to even contemplate...and I've no idea why you would suggest such a bizarre action would occur under our government.

Because he said it.  As far as religion goes Islam is both.  Religion and government.  Our government needs to take up that threat possibly in a Constitutional Amendment to protect freedom for all from foreign threats related to conflicting religious freedom.  If we don't recognize the threat soon we will be bound to end up like other countries with No Go Zones.  Rape, beheadings, cutting off of hands, female mutilation, acid baths, honor killings.  Then there is separate banking policies.  No interest.  Separate banking and government to conform with Sharia Law.  Soon our identity as a Free Country is gone.
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« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2016, 09:11:02 pm »
It's anything but tasteless, cuky.

It's germane and pertinent to his #1 issue.

His one and only issue is the glorification of Donald Trump.

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« Reply #70 on: June 12, 2016, 09:16:43 pm »
Trump gets self-congratulatory after Orlando mass shooting

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-gets-self-congratulatory-after-orlando-mass-shooting/

Sunday morning's shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando is now the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, killing 50 people and injuring another 53.

Donald Trump's response to the tragedy was initially to express sorrow at the incident, but he later attacked Hillary Clinton over her first general election ad, congratulated himself for warning the American public about Islamic extremism, and had an aide go on television and describe Mitt Romney as a "coward."

On Twitter, Trump initially posted a brief message about the "really bad shooting" that left "many people dead and wounded" at around 8 a.m. Sunday. About 90 minutes later, he followed it up with this tweet responding to Clinton's new ad:

Also on Sunday morning, as officials in Florida were announcing the high death toll in the Pulse nightclub attack, Trump aide Paul Manafort went on ABC's "This Week" and called 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney a "coward" for staying out of the 2016 race.

"You know, Romney wanted to run, chose not to. He's now attacking this past weekend all the other Republicans who ran for president as well as saying they should have done a better job," he said. "Well, if he feels that way, he should have run. He was a coward."

"Coward?" moderator George Stephanopoulos asked in response. "He didn't want to get into the race," Manafort replied.

Trump's tweet about "congrats" quickly drew outrage from across the internet, with prominent Republicans and other public figures criticizing his response:

Brian Walsh @brianjameswalsh
@realDonaldTrump Seriously just stop. Put down your phone for the next few hours and at least attempt to act Presidential.

Meghan McCain ✔ @MeghanMcCain
.@realDonaldTrump You're congratulating yourself because 50 people are dead this morning in a horrific tragedy?
12:04 PM - 12 Jun 2016
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George Takei ✔ @GeorgeTakei
Once again, Donald, you have shown why you cannot lead us. 50 people are dead, and you bask in congratulations.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742034549232766976
Again another media slime leaves out his first tweet!
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?
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« Reply #71 on: June 12, 2016, 09:17:48 pm »
Prayers for the victims would have been a far more appropriate first response.

Of course Donald Trump is right about radical Islamic terror. I would trust him far more than Hillary in that respect. But a less self-indulgent person would have made it a secondary issue, or else left it for later.

Let us leave the politicization of violent attacks against Americans to the Democrats. They're the ones who have made such horrors more likely by refusing to identify the real enemy. Starting with our miserable excuse for a President.

Trump IS a Democrat.  That's part of why he acts the way he does.....
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« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2016, 09:18:28 pm »
Because he said it.  As far as religion goes Islam is both.  Religion and government.  Our government needs to take up that threat possibly in a Constitutional Amendment to protect freedom for all from foreign threats related to conflicting religious freedom.  If we don't recognize the threat soon we will be bound to end up like other countries with No Go Zones.  Rape, beheadings, cutting off of hands, female mutilation, acid baths, honor killings.  Then there is separate banking policies.  No interest.  Separate banking and government to conform with Sharia Law.  Soon our identity as a Free Country is gone.

He was speaking about terrorists on foreign soil, not domestic. If you want to attack the man, at least do it honestly.

There's a huge gulf between civil legal limitations on aspects of Sharia law...such as banking...and banning a religious practice. Heck, I would not oppose a ban on Sharia law altogether as part of civil law...but you are calling for banning mosques and religious practice, evidently, and that can never happen in this country. If it does, it will be the end of Christianity AND of civil government. So don't conflate things like disallowing Sharia banking practices, and the banning of a religion generally...these are two utterly different things.

Again, you cannot ban a religion...and you cannot simply declare a religion to not be what it has always been in cultural and legal history. Let it go, because it will only make our fight against RADICAL Islam all the more difficult to win.
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« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2016, 09:18:37 pm »
But Trump is a Democrat.

I should have read the entire thread.

You beat me to it.
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« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2016, 09:22:32 pm »
He was speaking about terrorists on foreign soil, not domestic. If you want to attack the man, at least do it honestly.

There's a huge gulf between civil legal limitations on aspects of Sharia law...such as banking...and banning a religious practice. Heck, I would not oppose a ban on Sharia law altogether as part of civil law...but you are calling for banning mosques and religious practice, evidently, and that can never happen in this country. If it does, it will be the end of Christianity AND of civil government. So don't conflate things like disallowing Sharia banking practices, and the banning of a religion generally...these are two utterly different things.

Again, you cannot ban a religion...and you cannot simply declare a religion to not be what it has always been in cultural and legal history. Let it go, because it will only make our fight against RADICAL Islam all the more difficult to win.

(nodding)  Well said, Mesaclone.  Spot on.