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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2016, 07:02:25 pm »

So basically he is going to kill American Citizens???

I wonder.  That is what he said.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2016, 07:02:33 pm »
This is a very good post.  I do agree that we should not be bringing refugee's here.  They should have safe zones in their own countries.  Removing refugees from their own countries just leaves a void for terrorists to fill.  Leaving is giving the land over to the enemy.  If the people fleeing terrorist thugs actually believe in peace they should stay and fight for their country.  Imagine Americans leaving because ISIS launches attacks.  No, we must fight evil.  I believe in freedom of religion but allowing mostly male refugee's from a terrorist infested country is suicide.

That is ludicrous. You cannot shut down all mosques...setting aside the obvious constitutional violation, think of the precedent that would set. Why not fundamentalist Christian churches next...or Synagogues? You don't want to EVER go down that road. And for the record, Trump doesn't want to "ban muslims" who are already citizens...he wants a TEMPORARY ban on Islamic immigration so we can put better screening processes in place. THAT is a rational course, and effects no current citizens and so has no constitutional implications. We DO know need to find ways to inflitrate the more radical mosques and communities in the country, and we DO need to find ways to gain much better cooperation from moderate muslim groups...listen to Zuhdi Jasser and folks in that community that are calling for just that course of action.

But we can never ban an institution of religion...if we do that, this is no longer America.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2016, 07:03:11 pm »
Prayers for the victims would have been a far more appropriate first response.


Oh, for heavens sake... this was Trump's first tweet:

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First tweet:

Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?
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He ended it with the question we're all asking.


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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2016, 07:03:24 pm »
First tweet:


Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?
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His response to people tweeting him:

Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
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His latest tweet:

 Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 14m14 minutes ago

    Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace!
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Let's get the facts straight.

Of course he's right about Obama's disgusting attitude toward the muslim terrorists. Obama went straight to gun control.  And this terrorist targeted another of Obama's favorite groups ... Gays.

But even a blind pig as they say ....
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2016, 07:04:12 pm »
Prayers for the victims would have been a far more appropriate first response.

Of course Donald Trump is right about radical Islamic terror. I would trust him far more than Hillary in that respect. But a less self-indulgent person would have made it a secondary issue, or else left it for later.

Let us leave the politicization of violent attacks against Americans to the Democrats. They're the ones who have made such horrors more likely by refusing to identify the real enemy. Starting with our miserable excuse for a President.

His first post today WAS prayers for the victims.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2016, 07:04:27 pm »
I'm surprised Trump can still use his arm, from being so sore and tired from patting himself on the back so often and so much.  He's beyond douche baggery.... :thud:

The first step in preventing this threat from  happening, is to listen to intel and the videos that ISIS sends, with the actual threats of what they intend to do, and to TAKE THEM SERIOUSLYhttp://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/days-before-orlando-attack-isis-issued-this-warning  :chairbang: Ignoring the threat(s) has worked out, how well?


Our govt is running around like the keystone cops and then shrugging  :shrug: after the fact, like they had no idea and no way to fix it, other than confiscate law abiding citizens guns.

Then they use it as a political prop to push an agenda that has nothing to do with what happened. ****sheep****
I could not agree with you more.  And this is a big part of Trump's popularity.  Among liberals and too much of the population, calling Muslims what they are is considered racist.  Seriously.

I don't think Mosques should be allowed either.  They are hotbeds for Muslim terrorist indoctrination.

There is a large Mosque in Irving, Texas... a town outside of Dallas.  It has attracted tons of Muslims to Irving and now another Mosque is being built in Irving, which my nice, but clueless, Episcopal priest thinks is just hunky dory and he can't wait to go over and welcome them.

The Mosque in Irving was home of Clock Boy and his father who worshipped there was a friend of terroists.

But anybody who looks to Trump to do anything besides brag and bluster is kidding him/herself.
Banning Muslims won't solve this problem, when this guy was BORN HERE.  But we should stop them from coming here, refugee wise and other, until we can determine who is who and whether they pose a threat.

But in my honest opinion, America should not allow MOSQUES of any type, to be built.  I don't give a rats ass about political correctness, or free speech, or freedom OF religion, etc.  When it's proven again and again and again, that these mosques are breeding grounds for terrorists, MUSLIMS, to coordinate, indoctrinate and PLAN to terrorize and attack AMERICA on our soil, they shouldn't be allowed to exist.  The whole presmise of Islam, isn't a "religion", it's a very evil, very satanic political ideology.  And until THAT is addressed for exactly what it is, and the whole myth of it being any kind of "religion" is dispelled, than it should be dealt with, just like Communism, or Marxism, or Socialism has been dealt with (and should continue to be dealt with).  I'm sure there are a few Muslims who live here who aren't planning on doing any harm, but considering the state of the world today, and the threats we face, and how the majority of Muslims are Islamic and the majority of Terrorists ARE Muslims, it's just common sense, to start taking all Muslims and investigating every single one of them.  I don't care if they are legal American citizens...as we're seeing time and time again, these people come here to infiltrate and change OUR culture, and OUR traditions and OUR way of life.  Islamists believe in conversion or die...and they plan to either convert everyone to their false evil ideology or to kill all thsoe who don't.  It can't be any more clear than that. 

ISIS in all it's forms, MUST be eradicated, where ever it is.  And most especially on OUR soil.  Our government isn't doing enough.  And of course, recognizing and calling it by it's name, is a start.

I know I'm pissing in the wind here, and our government is not only ignorant and blind on these matters, but they are complicit as well.  So that in and of itself needs to be the first thing "fixed" to solve and prevent this crap from happening.  But if the world was a sane place, that's what I say needs to be done to start fixing this mess.

And building a wall, is but a speck of sand to what really needs to be done.  Sadly, Trump has no clue, to the depth and greatness of the threats we face.  He's just giving sound bites to what people want to hear.  He's as clueless as the rest of the dopes in DC.


How are you guys anti trump and them agree with him word for word?

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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2016, 07:05:26 pm »
That is ludicrous. You cannot shut down all mosques...setting aside the obvious constitutional violation, think of the precedent that would set. Why not fundamentalist Christian churches next...or Synagogues? You don't want to EVER go down that road. And for the record, Trump doesn't want to "ban muslims" who are already citizens...he wants a TEMPORARY ban on Islamic immigration so we can put better screening processes in place. THAT is a rational course, and effects no current citizens and so has no constitutional implications. We DO know need to find ways to inflitrate the more radical mosques and communities in the country, and we DO need to find ways to gain much better cooperation from moderate muslim groups...listen to Zuhdi Jasser and folks in that community that are calling for just that course of action.

But we can never ban an institution of religion...if we do that, this is no longer America.

But... you're okay with banning the KKK?

I'm okay with banning mosques...it's not a religion, it's a cult.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2016, 07:06:49 pm »
Trump could not do anything about this type of killing, nor would he even attempt to.  He speaks in generalities that his supporters eat up with a spoon.

However, I gotta say that this sick terrorist did Trump a favor as it bolstered his followers and created renewed disgust about Obama and Hillary

So are you saying that you are satisfied with the Obama-Hillary status quo, and you do not want the increased emphasis that Trump speaks of?

During WWII, the last major war that we won, we interned SOME Japanese (and Italian and German) origin people for our safety and theirs as well.

It worked, we won.

Today nearly everybody is too politically correct to admit that those internment were highly popular; that there WERE some Japanese wrongdoers caught.

It is only now, when we can't seem to win anything, most Americans are too squeamish to protect themselves. They ask for inept military and LE "experts" to do so.

In hindsight his parents should have been denied entry, because it would likely have saved these 50 lives.

In the present, we should get much smarter, as Trump says. I am just fine with expelling them if even the smallest concern exists. Just fine.

The plans of radical islam are long term, and wish to take over our country, and will kill some of us to do so.

They use deception, called "taqiyya" and a great number of westerner are totally naïve about this.

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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2016, 07:08:15 pm »
Agreed. Trump didn't say anything that bad.

I am very glad to see that he acknowledged concern for the victims first. Thank you, Mr. Trump, for that moment of thoughtfulness. You would benefit enormously from trying it more often.

Now let's leave the politicization to the Democrats, who have and will call for gun control rather than the defeat of radical Islam, whose adherents are not merely "over there", but here.   
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2016, 07:09:50 pm »
But... you're okay with banning the KKK?

I'm okay with banning mosques...it's not a religion, it's a cult.


You do realize that a ban would not pass Congress.. Also such a ban is unconstitutional..
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2016, 07:12:49 pm »
But... you're okay with banning the KKK?

I'm okay with banning mosques...it's not a religion, it's a cult.

No, I"m not OK with banning the KKK. Even idiots have a right to speak and exist, if they take criminal actions than they go to jail. But they are not an establishment of religion. If you think calling it a cult makes it OK to ban it, the same could one day happen to....say...Southern Baptists or Lutheran churches or anything, really. You take that kind of subjective approach to defining what is and is not a religion and everything is suddenly open to that label. Once you head down that road, you won't like where it ends. Islam is a religion, period. Radical Islam is a disgusting and horrific ideology that we must stomp out, here and abroad, but your approach would make things worse AND destroy our constitution. There is much we can do to combat radical Islam, but banning mosques is not on that list.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2016, 07:13:02 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on Today at 02:56:31 PM
This is a very good post.  I do agree that we should not be bringing refugee's here.  They should have safe zones in their own countries.  Removing refugees from their own countries just leaves a void for terrorists to fill.  Leaving is giving the land over to the enemy.  If the people fleeing terrorist thugs actually believe in peace they should stay and fight for their country.  Imagine Americans leaving because ISIS launches attacks.  No, we must fight evil.  I believe in freedom of religion but allowing mostly male refugee's from a terrorist infested country is suicide.


That is ludicrous. You cannot shut down all mosques...setting aside the obvious constitutional violation, think of the precedent that would set. Why not fundamentalist Christian churches next...or Synagogues? You don't want to EVER go down that road. And for the record, Trump doesn't want to "ban muslims" who are already citizens...he wants a TEMPORARY ban on Islamic immigration so we can put better screening processes in place. THAT is a rational course, and effects no current citizens and so has no constitutional implications. We DO know need to find ways to inflitrate the more radical mosques and communities in the country, and we DO need to find ways to gain much better cooperation from moderate muslim groups...listen to Zuhdi Jasser and folks in that community that are calling for just that course of action.

But we can never ban an institution of religion...if we do that, this is no longer America.

I don't know what you are trying to do here but misrepresenting my words?  You post my comment and then go off on a tirade of how its unconstitutional to close Mosques?  Nothing in my post about that.  And its your candidate that promotes killing families of terrorists.  Go figure.

I am talking about safe zones in their own countries.  Where NATO and U.S. Allies join together to create safe zones so that people can stay in their countries rather than give them over to extremist Islam.

Emphasis added that we cannot leave NATO and our Allies.  Trump has pushed the idea to leave NATO.  We cannot dump our Allies in a fight that decides the fate of common decency and human worth.  It is sickening to see the world with such a weak response to a threat which goal is to destroy freedom and the lives of anyone who does not come in line with this evil.  This is a war against our ability to eradicate an ideal that threatens the world not just America.  It calls for leaders who can Unite the world against a threat bigger than Nazi Germany.   Our survival is going to take world cooperation.  Not isolation.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2016, 07:14:25 pm »
I am very glad to see that he acknowledged concern for the victims first. Thank you, Mr. Trump, for that moment of thoughtfulness. You would benefit enormously from trying it more often.

Now let's leave the politicization to the Democrats, who have and will call for gun control rather than the defeat of radical Islam, whose adherents are not merely "over there", but here.
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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2016, 07:16:08 pm »
Prayers for the victims would have been a far more appropriate first response.

Of course Donald Trump is right about radical Islamic terror. I would trust him far more than Hillary in that respect. But a less self-indulgent person would have made it a secondary issue, or else left it for later.

Let us leave the politicization of violent attacks against Americans to the Democrats. They're the ones who have made such horrors more likely by refusing to identify the real enemy. Starting with our miserable excuse for a President.

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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2016, 07:19:11 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on Today at 02:56:31 PM
This is a very good post.  I do agree that we should not be bringing refugee's here.  They should have safe zones in their own countries.  Removing refugees from their own countries just leaves a void for terrorists to fill.  Leaving is giving the land over to the enemy.  If the people fleeing terrorist thugs actually believe in peace they should stay and fight for their country.  Imagine Americans leaving because ISIS launches attacks.  No, we must fight evil.  I believe in freedom of religion but allowing mostly male refugee's from a terrorist infested country is suicide.


I don't know what you are trying to do here but misrepresenting my words?  You post my comment and then go off on a tirade of how its unconstitutional to close Mosques?  Nothing in my post about that.  And its your candidate that promotes killing families of terrorists.  Go figure.

I am talking about safe zones in their own countries.  Where NATO and U.S. Allies join together to create safe zones so that people can stay in their countries rather than give them over to extremist Islam.

You said "good post" to a post that discussed banning Mosques in the United States. If your good post was not meant to refer to the whole post you cited, but only to that specific part that mentioned "safe zones", you have my apology. In such a case, all that I said applies only to the original poster that you cited.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2016, 07:25:42 pm »

You do realize that a ban would not pass Congress.. Also such a ban is unconstitutional..

I realize that it would be very difficult to ban Mosques.  But there are interim steps that could and should be taken, such as infiltrating Mosques to determine if terrorism is being taught and not condemned.

I hate people saying that if we did that it would not longer be America.  If we don't do something, it will literally no longer be America.
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Re: Donald Trump Tweets Disgusting Humble Brag After Orlando Massacre
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2016, 07:28:09 pm »
You said "good post" to a post that discussed banning Mosques in the United States. If your good post was not meant to refer to the whole post you cited, but only to that specific part that mentioned "safe zones", you have my apology. In such a case, all that I said applies only to the original poster that you cited.

Is killing terrorist families Constitutional?  We do need to monitor Mosques for terrorist activity.  If any religious institution is promoting violence and terrorism it does not fall under Freedom of religion.  I don't know the answer but our Homeland Security Department should.  If any religion becomes a threat to other people's freedom it no longer deserves protection under our Constitution.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

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« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2016, 07:29:32 pm »
I realize that it would be very difficult to ban Mosques.  But there are interim steps that could and should be taken, such as infiltrating Mosques to determine if terrorism is being taught and not condemned.

I hate people saying that if we did that it would not longer be America.  If we don't do something, it will literally no longer be America.

Infiltrating is certainly legitimate and nobody has said that doing that would make us "no longer America".

Banning mosques is not, and I stand by that. If we decide we can ban religious practice of religions we do not like, no one's practice of religion will ever be safe again. The constitution wisely and explicitly forbids this.
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« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2016, 07:33:06 pm »
Infiltrating is certainly legitimate and nobody has said that doing that would make us "no longer America".

Banning mosques is not, and I stand by that. If we decide we can ban religious practice of religions we do not like, no one's practice of religion will ever be safe again. The constitution wisely and explicitly forbids this.
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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2016, 07:33:40 pm »
Is killing terrorist families Constitutional?  We do need to monitor Mosques for terrorist activity.  If any religious institution is promoting violence and terrorism it does not fall under Freedom of religion.  I don't know the answer but our Homeland Security Department should.

Terrorist families are not US citizens and so the constitution does not apply to them. International law is another story, but that's an entirely other debate. And your statement about a religious institution promoting violence and so not being protected by the constitution...is simply not correct in any legal sense. Unless, of course, you are arguing that every mosque in America is an explicit participant in the carrying out of specific terror attacks...which would be a ludicrous assertion. That said, a mosque that is directly involved in a terror attack certainly could be subject to closure and its leadership arrested for a crime...but you cannot generalize without violating the US constitution.

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« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2016, 07:36:53 pm »
I wonder how long before the #neverTrumpers admit they were wrong for attacking Trump over this and when will they go after Huffington post for lying about Trump's tweets here?

If you want to be angry at somebody, be angry this was another Gun-Free zone mass murder.
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« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2016, 07:38:33 pm »
Agreed!! Are we the same person?   :seeya:

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« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2016, 07:40:48 pm »
Good grief.


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« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2016, 07:41:48 pm »
I wonder how long before the #neverTrumpers admit they were wrong for attacking Trump over this and when will they go after Huffington post for lying about Trump's tweets here?

If you want to be angry at somebody, be angry this was another Gun-Free zone mass murder.

Have you ever seen any of them admit to being wrong about ANYTHING related to Trump? They don't have it in them...they must paint him as aggregation of Hitler, the Anti-Christ and Saul Alinsky...in other words, they've passed over to irrational hatred, and all they are now capable of is emoting about their anger/hate of the man.
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« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2016, 07:42:58 pm »
If Western civilization is to survive, islam needs to be reclassified as a geopolitical movement and not a religion. This infiltration, financed in large part by the Saudis, is going to destroy the West and its Judeo-Christian foundations.  The islamists see our freedoms as a perfect opportunity to end our way of life. Taqqiya, hijera, sharia and jihad are here. Obama and Hitlery both have handlers from the muslim brotherhood. We ignore the reality at our peril.
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