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Drip, drip, drip -- surprising that they're not waiting until after the convention...

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

A USA TODAY NETWORK investigation has found hundreds of cases in which Donald Trump and his businesses are accused of failing to pay people for their work. USA TODAY

Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters, dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay them for their work.


During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.


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In the interview, Trump repeatedly said the cases were “a long time ago.” However, even as he campaigns for the presidency, new cases are continuing. Just last month, Trump Miami Resort Management LLC settled with 48 servers at his Miami golf resort over failing to pay overtime for a special event. The settlements averaged about $800 for each worker and as high as $3,000 for one, according to court records. Some workers put in 20-hour days over the 10-day Passover event at Trump National Doral Miami, the lawsuit contends. Trump’s team initially argued a contractor hired the workers, and he wasn’t responsible, and counter-sued the contractor demanding payment.

“Trump could have settled it right off the bat, but they wanted to fight it out, that’s their M.O.” said Rod Hannah, of Plantation, Fla., the lawyer who represented the workers, who he said are forbidden from talking about the case in public. “They’re known for their aggressiveness, and if you have the money, why not?”

Similar cases have cropped up with Trump’s facilities in California and New York, where hourly workers, bartenders and wait staff have sued with a range of allegations from not letting workers take breaks to not passing along tips to servers. Trump's company settled the California case, and the New York case is pending.

“Trump’s trial attorneys visibly winced, began breathing heavily, and attempted to make eye contact with the witness.”
Ruling by Miami Dade Circuit Judge Jorge Cueto
Trump's Doral golf resort also has been embroiled in recent non-payment claims by two different paint firms, with one case settled and the other pending. Last month, his company’s refusal to pay one Florida painter more than $30,000 for work at Doral led the judge in the case to order foreclosure of the resort if the contractor isn’t paid.

Read more at:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

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SIEU Garbage for Hillary. More nothing burger.
Trump is for America First.
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SIEU Garbage for Hillary. More nothing burger.

Quick -- get to it -- you and your ilk are going to be mighty busy putting together slanderous stories about the judges and plaintiffs in these cases given the number of lawsuits and settlements Trump's been involved with over the years. 

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I know some people who have worked with the trades for Trump companies, and this is honestly the single biggest thing I've been concerned about.   In short, it's completely true, and I've been worried about the parade of people who've been stiffed being dug up by the left and used in a series of ads.  It could be really effective because it hits him right where he is strongest.

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Trump boasts about how to swindle contractors in one of his books.

He brags about ripping people off.

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SIEU Garbage for Hillary. More nothing burger.

Trump explains how to do this in his book.

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"Trump as Skinflint" will be a major theme of Hillary's campaign, along with workers in campaign ads who got stiffed.  The WSJ also dropped a story this afternoon about this.....almost as if there was a coordination.


Donald Trump's Business Plan left a trail of unpaid bills

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Mr. Trump pushed the approach beyond construction and into day-to-day casino operations, said Jack O’Donnell, president of Mr. Trump’s Plaza casino in Atlantic City in the late 1980s. “Part of how he did business as a philosophy was to negotiate the best price he could. And then when it came time to pay the bills,” he said, Mr. Trump would say that “ ‘I’m going to pay you but I’m going to pay you 75% of what we agreed to.’ ”

“In our business it’s very difficult to operate that way. You’re dealing with people on an ongoing basis. Every time you order with them you can’t screw them because they won’t be your suppliers anymore,” Mr. O’Donnell said. Executives at the casino paid vendors fully despite Mr. Trump’s directives, he said, and “it used to infuriate him.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-business-plan-left-a-trail-of-unpaid-bills-1465504454

The stories are becoming a flood against Trump.
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The stories are becoming a flood against Trump.

A plethora of riches...

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Actually its funny as hell since NOBODY supporting Trump cares about this stuff. Its not about Jobs, Its not about Muslims, illegals, The Wall, Govt Corruption. Media lying etc, its the same old obsolete crap that Trump has shown does him no harm at all. So keep playing by the obsolete election paradigms. Trump is going to win in  a landslide.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Actually its funny as hell since NOBODY supporting Trump cares about this stuff....Trump is going to win in  a landslide.

You may be right about what his current supporters think about this stuff.  But if he's going to actually win -- much less win in a landslide -- then he is going to need a lot more people voting for him than just those who support him right now.  And among those people, ads showing that he stiffed hard-working, blue collar guys may not go over very well.

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You may be right about what his current supporters think about this stuff.  But if he's going to actually win -- much less win in a landslide -- then he is going to need a lot more people voting for him than just those who support him right now.  And among those people, ads showing that he stiffed hard-working, blue collar guys may not go over very well.
Sieu is not perceived as good guys here by anybody but the left. They have been violent protestors and far left radicals. As it says he did not stiff them -  they disputed what was owed. Stiffing means he did not pay them not he did not pay the Union  all they wanted.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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The most damning part is the way in which he targets smaller businesses for his thievery.  They can't afford a protracted court fight, and sometimes he puts them out of business.

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The most damning part is the way in which he targets smaller businesses for his thievery.  They can't afford a protracted court fight, and sometimes he puts them out of business.
SIEU is not small
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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I don't know Sieu, but I'll just have to take your word for it.

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Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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SIEU Garbage for Hillary. More nothing burger.
Probably.  Sleazy Donald was Sleazy Donald before this came out and he's still Sleazy Donald now that it's hit the news.

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SIEU Garbage for Hillary. More nothing burger.

I heard that the only county that Trump failed to carry in the New York Republican primary was New York County--which is Manhattan.  Maybe Trump's homeys just knew more about him than did other New Yorkers. 

We'd better dump Trump quick.  If we don't do so, the Dems and MSM will crucify Trump with verifiable stories of his over-the-top crookedness.

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Predictable. The first post is the Trump troll spreading "deny, deny, deny"
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Actually its funny as hell since NOBODY supporting Trump cares about this stuff. Its not about Jobs, Its not about Muslims, illegals, The Wall, Govt Corruption. Media lying etc, its the same old obsolete crap that Trump has shown does him no harm at all. So keep playing by the obsolete election paradigms. Trump is going to win in  a landslide.

Do you think Trump is dishonest?
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Actually its funny as hell since NOBODY supporting Trump cares about this stuff. Its not about Jobs, Its not about Muslims, illegals, The Wall, Govt Corruption. Media lying etc, its the same old obsolete crap that Trump has shown does him no harm at all. So keep playing by the obsolete election paradigms. Trump is going to win in  a landslide.

He isn't going to win by landslide.  He is lucky to be neck and neck with the other dud.

And I have to ask.  Did you ever have a serious brain concussion or injury?  Because this story says that Trump doesn't pay workers.  If Trump fans don't care about that then they must not want to be paid.
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Actually its funny as hell since NOBODY supporting Trump cares about this stuff. Its not about Jobs, Its not about Muslims, illegals, The Wall, Govt Corruption. Media lying etc, its the same old obsolete crap that Trump has shown does him no harm at all. So keep playing by the obsolete election paradigms. Trump is going to win in  a landslide.

No comment needed.  Just wanted to reiterate what you said because we agree.  Except about Trump winning.

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This is right out of the Art of the Deal. Wait until the job is done then make the contractor sue you for payment then settle for less. He has always been the poster child for unethical corrupt business practices. Too many people have fingers in their ears about him.

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Trump boasts about how to swindle contractors in one of his books.

He brags about ripping people off.

In The Art of the Deal-- how to get by with paying as little as possible. Force them in a corner and make them sue you for payment (make up dissatisfaction). They either hire lawyers or settle for much less.

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No comment needed.  Just wanted to reiterate what you said because we agree.  Except about Trump winning.

Glad you reiterated what he said.

NOBODY who supports Trump cares that he bilked innocent people out of their due.  NOBODY who supports Trump cares that he's a cheat and corrupt.

On the word of a Trump troll (or more likely a Hillary troll, since he just condemned every single Trump supporter with his confession).
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Please!  Show me a politician who pays any of his own bills.

Nice try.

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