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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #100 on: June 06, 2016, 05:12:35 am »
But you're all-in the tank to support for President a NY Liberal Leftist who ENDORSED AND FUNDED a KNOWN SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST for Mayor just 3 years ago - and you're gonna make a statement like THAT?????

You are not a serious person.

Just a propagandist

So 85% of Republicans are just not as smart and principled as you are...and we're either being duped or want a radical leftist to take over the party. Is that your assertion?

Well, that's ridiculous...almost as ridiculous as your assertion that Trump is anything but a conservative. You really shouldn't be surprised that people...and by people I mean the vast majority of your fellow conservatives, see the NeverTrump movement as a bunch of petulant nutcakes who'd rather burn the country down with a Hillary presidency than see the guy who beat "their guy" in the primary become president.
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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #101 on: June 06, 2016, 05:26:31 am »
So 85% of Republicans are just not as smart and principled as you are...and we're either being duped or want a radical leftist to take over the party. Is that your assertion?

Well, that's ridiculous...almost as ridiculous as your assertion that Trump is anything but a conservative. You really shouldn't be surprised that people...and by people I mean the vast majority of your fellow conservatives, see the NeverTrump movement as a bunch of petulant nutcakes who'd rather burn the country down with a Hillary presidency than see the guy who beat "their guy" in the primary become president.

Trump has a life history of liberalism. That history does not evaporate from the space/time continuum because you or anyone else refuses to consider it.

So since it exists, then you have to intentionally ignore it to support Trump. If you intentionally factual information and spout comments about being SICK of two of conservatism's foundational pillars, you are not anything remotely conservative. Thats like a Christian saying he does not believe in Christ.

I get it. you insist that contrary to the facts in evidence, you demand to sit at the conservative table. But your beliefs and statements are provably in contradiction to Conservatism.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2016, 07:18:51 am »
So 85% of Republicans are just not as smart and principled as you are...and we're either being duped or want a radical leftist to take over the party. Is that your assertion?

Did Trump or did Trump not FUND and endorse DeBlasio for Mayor of NYC in 2013???

The fact 85% of your party wants a king and savior and is willing to overlook his past because he says all the things they want to hear, falls right into the "nothing new under the sun" category of masses of people who voted for madmen and dictators to rule over them.

Well, that's ridiculous...almost as ridiculous as your assertion that Trump is anything but a conservative.

That is as hilarious a statement as those that insist that Obama is a devout Christian.

You really shouldn't be surprised that people...and by people I mean the vast majority of your fellow conservatives, see the NeverTrump movement as a bunch of petulant nutcakes who'd rather burn the country down with a Hillary presidency than see the guy who beat "their guy" in the primary become president.

I don't CARE that your people who are perfect illustrations of Isaiah 30:10 see your prince as a savior.  YOU chose him, not us.  If the nation burns down because you and your people hooked your wagon to a Liberal Leftist who funded and supported a known Communist for mayor of New York City just 3 years ago and Hildabeast "wins" this coronation for monarch come November - the blood is on your own head toots.

Remember - YOU PEOPLE said you didn't need, nor want Principled Conservatives like Cruz and his supporters to vote for your king presumptive.  You people said you would win it without us.

So stop with this dump truck of bovine excrement that insists that our refusal to vote for Trump means we are burning the country down.  Go and pander for Bernie Supporters.  Trump will love them.  They are Commie/Socialists like DeBlasio too.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #103 on: June 06, 2016, 08:16:40 am »
Serious question, are you actually an adult of voting age?

@Mesaclone @Norm Lenhart

Being I Freed with him for nearly 18 years I would suspect he is of age. Lets see, that is about 16 years longer than Trump has pretended to be a conservative.
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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #104 on: June 06, 2016, 08:42:11 am »
@Mesaclone @Norm Lenhart

Being I Freed with him for nearly 18 years I would suspect he is of age. Lets see, that is about 16 years longer than Trump has pretended to be a conservative.

@Mesaclone is rather upset because his  choice in candidates is making a fool out of his supporters moreso every day. He talks about false bravado while his fellows stand and watch their women mauled and their males beaten bloody. When they arent pepper spraying women themselves of course. Or sucker punching handcuffed protesters. You know...like big brave men (snicker).

All he has is impotent ranting. He's wrong on several levels. About his candidate, about his fellow supporters, About me. He can't defeat any of the Never Trump arguments because they are all fact based and backed by Trumps own words and actions. He can't defeat my arguments because likewise they are backed by Trumps, his supporters, and his own words and actions. All he can do is miss my age by over 30 years, snark about being sick of "Bible Thumpers" and Social Conservatives and claim HE/She/Whatever  he actually is behind the pseudonym, is a conservative.

Funny to watch really. Pathetic, but funny.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #105 on: June 06, 2016, 11:46:01 am »
Did Trump or did Trump not FUND and endorse DeBlasio for Mayor of NYC in 2013???

You make it sound like Trump agreed with him IGNORING the Facts, Its NYC, Its a Democrat Strong Hold, Deblasio was going to win anyway, Trump as a rich Republican would have been raped by DeBlasio  with his businesses there. Its called Protection money. Its called common sense.

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The fact 85% of your party wants a king and savior and is willing to overlook his past because he says all the things they want to hear, falls right into the "nothing new under the sun" category of masses of people who voted for madmen and dictators to rule over them.
Stripping away the Hyperbole and delusions. Most Americans see where the country is heading and do not want 4 more years of Obama. Trump is a possible reversal of what has been happening to us. Even if its only a remote possibility its better then picking up arms. It's Commonsense.

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That is as hilarious a statement as those that insist that Obama is a devout Christian.
Look up Calvinists then read this: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-sin.html
You may have had it hammered into you day after day and month after month how evil he is. But please note how people who did not have the Neural Linguistic Programing done on them for months do not see Trump as the evil Boogeyman.


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I don't CARE that your people who are perfect illustrations of Isaiah 30:10 see your prince as a savior.  YOU chose him, not us.  If the nation burns down because you and your people hooked your wagon to a Liberal Leftist who funded and supported a known Communist for mayor of New York City just 3 years ago and Hildabeast "wins" this coronation for monarch come November - the blood is on your own head toots.
Gave you a commonsense reason for what Trump dd in NYC, and it makes sense. Wanting to foul your own house is not rational.

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Remember - YOU PEOPLE said you didn't need, nor want Principled Conservatives like Cruz and his supporters to vote for your king presumptive.  You people said you would win it without us.
You may consider yourself principled conservatives. That's just words. I see more principle and more conservatism in the Patriots trying to save America.

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So stop with this dump truck of bovine excrement that insists that our refusal to vote for Trump means we are burning the country down.  Go and pander for Bernie Supporters.  Trump will love them.  They are Commie/Socialists like DeBlasio too.

When 85 percent of Conservatives focusing on Saving America disagree with you, the problem is not with them.
Trump is for America First.
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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #106 on: June 06, 2016, 02:05:45 pm »
Look up Calvinists then read this: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-sin.html
You may have had it hammered into you day after day and month after month how evil he is. But please note how people who did not have the Neural Linguistic Programing done on them for months do not see Trump as the evil Boogeyman.

Really?  We got rid of Direct TV months ago because we felt it was a waste of money.  I have not been hammered day after day by any of them.  Do I need to write what I really think of Trump or do you think you have a pretty good idea already?

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #107 on: June 06, 2016, 06:03:28 pm »
Really?  We got rid of Direct TV months ago because we felt it was a waste of money.  I have not been hammered day after day by any of them.  Do I need to write what I really think of Trump or do you think you have a pretty good idea already?
Many feel like you do. But you do not display irrational hatred where Trump is the Devil.

Re getting rid of cable. We cut the cord over 2 years ago, put up a hundred mile antenna 30 feet in the air and bought a Roku. Got over 200 channels all the free movies we can watch and the over the air channels are super high definition. All for free.

Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #108 on: June 06, 2016, 06:26:45 pm »
No, a bunch of fairweather conservatives and sunday only armchair internet evangelists fled Cruz as the sniveling opponents to truth they are.

My take is a little different.
Trump didn't "out-evangelical" (if this is a real word) Cruz.
He did paint Cruz as establishment, a Washington insider, which I think swung those vote.
Trump wrongly accused Cruz of being the Establishment, but it worked.

Now, we have a real dilemma on our hands.

If we support Trump, like other Establishment types have (Ryan, McConnell, Christie, etc...), does that make us the Establishment now?
If we do not support Trump, as other establishment types have not (Wall street Journal, National Review), does that also make us part of the Establishment?

Cruz himself is in the same predicament. Either way his support goes now, he could again be branded "the establishment".

Crazy, passive/aggressive behavior going on here with Trump and his supporters, crazy "I love you / go away" stuff.

We are really in a no-win situation here.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2016, 06:59:20 pm »
Many feel like you do. But you do not display irrational hatred where Trump is the Devil.

Re getting rid of cable. We cut the cord over 2 years ago, put up a hundred mile antenna 30 feet in the air and bought a Roku. Got over 200 channels all the free movies we can watch and the over the air channels are super high definition. All for free.

Everyone has different personalities and express themselves in different ways.  I am a reserved person and my comments reflect that.  Some people express themselves more passionately and their comments reflect that.  If the whole of their comments portrays them consistently as raving lunatics, they probably are.  If most of their comment is reasonable (regardless of whether you agree) and then get to the end and start ranting, that is just a little personality slipping through.  It doesn't necessarily mean they are irrational.  And, we all know that for some this medium is difficult to adequately express yourself.

Will have to check in to Roku.  We've been using Amazon Prime for anything we want to watch and it has been fantastic for controlling how much tv time the kiddo gets and what he gets to watch.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2016, 07:48:48 pm »
You make it sound like Trump agreed with him IGNORING the Facts, Its NYC, Its a Democrat Strong Hold, Deblasio was going to win anyway, Trump as a rich Republican would have been raped by DeBlasio  with his businesses there. Its called Protection money. Its called common sense.

Right.  So fund, endorse and vote for a known Communist just 3 years ago because it 'common sense" to vote for, endorse, PRAISE and fund a Communist to protect yourself.

So Conservatism in your book is for Republicans to pay protection money and endorse Communists because it is common sense, and therefore we should trust Trump with judicial appointments and everything else he says he will do for you??

And, Trump explicitly said that DeBlasio would be "a good mayor, possibly a great mayor".  That reads like a lot of agreement of Trump with DeBlasio's Communism if you ask me.  After all, I don't fund, endorse and vote for people that I do not agree with.

But then, perhaps you do.

All in the name of saving the country of course.

Most Americans see where the country is heading and do not want 4 more years of Obama.

But let's vote for a guy that funded, endorsed and voted for a Communist 3 years ago - and just endorsed a big government, pro-abortion, pro-Amensty woman for Congress. How can you say with a straight face that you Trump supporters do not want 4 more years of Obama?  YOUR GUY is ensuring it for you!

Trump is a possible reversal of what has been happening to us.

BWAHAHAHAAAAAA!  And funding and voting for Communists and endorsing pro-Amnesty liberals to Congress is going to do that… HOW???


Even if its only a remote possibility its better then picking up arms. It's Commonsense.

Don't kid yourself.  You'll never pick up anything except a sign to pander for whatever political savior you think is going to save you and a pen to fill in a box on a ballot.


Gave you a commonsense reason for what Trump dd in NYC, and it makes sense. Wanting to foul your own house is not rational.

You guys with your excuses and justifications for Trump's liberalism, support of communism, graft, mob action and big government authoritarianism is truly an amazing over-the-top example of willful propaganda.

You may consider yourself principled conservatives. That's just words. I see more principle and more conservatism in the Patriots trying to save America.

Right.  Thats why you worship and preach the virtues of Trump because voting for known Communists and endorsing liberal pro-Amnesty politicians is what "principled Conservatives" do in your book.

When 85 percent of Conservatives focusing on Saving America disagree with you, the problem is not with them.

Again, I don't care if I'm the ONLY ONE standing in opposition to your King Presumptive.  What he has done, what he says and the people he insults is not in any way, shape or form something I will be associated with supporting with a vote.

I'm this guy in the midst of the 85% you claim are focused on 'saving America' by supporting a Communist-voting pro-Amnesty endorsing egomaniac:


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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #112 on: June 07, 2016, 12:54:27 am »
Again, if you're using Hitler/Nazi analogies and pictures...you have no place in adult conversation.

As for who is and is not a conservative, that's not up to the NeverTrump's to determine. My conservative credentials go back to the Reagan years, and my views on every political position down the line regarding economics, the military and national defense, foreign relations, 2nd amendment rights, trade, federalism and the role of the courts are classically conservative.

You folks keep citing who Mr. Trump donated to...but forgetting he did so in a business context. His donations, which were still mostly to Republicans, had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ensuring his company's were treated fairly. Repeatedly citing it, doesn't reinforce its uselessness as an indicator.

Your second go-to move is to proclaim old positions which Mr. Trump once held...but has not held for years, MANY years in most cases. You take his personal evolution towards conservatism as a negative, as if somehow a man realizing his liberal views were wrong and adjusting his course makes him unworthy. Tell that crap to Reagan and every other great Republican we've had who made the same transition in their lives.

So your arguments that Trump is liberal are based on two entirely bogus premises...his old views that have changed, and his donations that were entirely business related. In clear language, both your arguments are innately specious...carrying no weight because they have no bearing on his current positions and views.

I know its hard to admit when you are wrong, even harder when your feelings have been hurt. But grow up and do the right thing for the country for once, or if you can't do that, just head for Dailykos and join in...you can even use the same arguments your making here because those folks agree with you about the GOP nominee. So go link up with your fellow Hillary supporters and leave the vast majority of conservatives and Republicans alone...we actually want to win this election rather than handing it to Hillary, and if you are not in that cause YOU are the problem.
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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #113 on: June 07, 2016, 01:04:17 am »
Your second go-to move is to proclaim old positions which Mr. Trump once held...but has not held for years, MANY years in most cases. You take his personal evolution towards conservatism as a negative, as if somehow a man realizing his liberal views were wrong and adjusting his course makes him unworthy. Tell that crap to Reagan and every other great Republican we've had who made the same transition in their lives.

So your arguments that Trump is liberal are based on two entirely bogus premises...his old views that have changed, and his donations that were entirely business related. In clear language, both your arguments are innately specious...carrying no weight because they have no bearing on his current positions and views.

What record of conservative action does he have that would help me believe the words he says?

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #114 on: June 07, 2016, 01:06:53 am »
"you're"

Listen, pal.  You've been here two months.  I'd suggest you not tell long-time members here to go somewhere else.   Why don't YOU go somewhere else?  You're in a very distinct minority on this forum, i.e. Trump supporters. 

You're not arguing from a position of numeric strength so it might just be a good idea to STFU.

I haven't been here long either, but this seems a little extreme of a reply.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #115 on: June 07, 2016, 01:21:27 am »

You folks keep citing who Mr. Trump donated to...but forgetting he did so in a business context. His donations, which were still mostly to Republicans, had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ensuring his company's were treated fairly. Repeatedly citing it, doesn't reinforce its uselessness as an indicator.

I guess its matter of perspective.

Its an extremely definitive indicator to those of us who wholeheartedly believe that the politicians Trump has not hesitated to donate to have been busying themselves destroying our liberties and our very way of life.

In fact, I can't think of a better way to define where Trump is coming from than by who he enables with his money, for WHATEVER reason.
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« Reply #116 on: June 07, 2016, 01:31:03 am »
I haven't been here long either, but this seems a little extreme of a reply.

Oh, I disagree. Extreme hasn't even been broached as of yet with that turkey.   **nononono*

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #117 on: June 07, 2016, 01:35:11 am »
I haven't been here long either, but this seems a little extreme of a reply.

His first, I mean THE VERY FIRST thread he posted, was accusing that there were too many stealth Democrats on this board.    He caught holy hell over that.

Mesaclone's a nice guy, but you'll NEVER know more or be as perceptive as him. It's just not possible. And  he'll tell you so, too.
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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #118 on: June 07, 2016, 01:58:27 am »
@Wingnut
@sinkspur

I have no doubt that the reply was deserved, but eh, some people aren't worth the effort, and they certainly aren't worth lowering yourself to their level.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #119 on: June 07, 2016, 02:01:12 am »
My take is a little different.
Trump didn't "out-evangelical" (if this is a real word) Cruz.
He did paint Cruz as establishment, a Washington insider, which I think swung those vote.
Trump wrongly accused Cruz of being the Establishment, but it worked.

Now, we have a real dilemma on our hands.

If we support Trump, like other Establishment types have (Ryan, McConnell, Christie, etc...), does that make us the Establishment now?
If we do not support Trump, as other establishment types have not (Wall street Journal, National Review), does that also make us part of the Establishment?

Cruz himself is in the same predicament. Either way his support goes now, he could again be branded "the establishment".

Crazy, passive/aggressive behavior going on here with Trump and his supporters, crazy "I love you / go away" stuff.

We are really in a no-win situation here.

Very few want to win. If they did, they would not fight to repeat the same mistakes that created the problem to begin with. They want to keep playing the kick the can game and pretend that someday a conservative Reagan will arise from the grave and cure America on force of will.

But they won't vote for one. They won't do anything but perpetuate the problem while blaming those who do the one most important, and in fact, FIRST step required:

Stop playing the game.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #120 on: June 07, 2016, 02:03:29 am »
Again, if you're using Hitler/Nazi analogies and pictures...you have no place in adult conversation.

Makes the point I intend better than a thousand page essay could.  You keep throwing out numbers and percentages to try and bolster your claim that I'm totally alone in my sentiments and therefore, fringe, a kook, a retard, a Hillary supporter or whatever other insulting slur you imagine.  And rather than arguing with you about the numbers as I watched you do with others who question the integrity of your cited sources, I decided for the better part of valor to simply state a point and simple fact with a perfect photo illustration of how I view myself in this madness of an election amidst the zealous mob for Trump.

 I don't care if I am the only one who is not willing to seig-heil your anointed prince. I'll stand on my Conservative principles, even if I stand alone.

As for who is and is not a conservative, that's not up to the NeverTrump's to determine.

Right, because funding, endorsing and voting for a known Communist for mayor of NYC 3 years ago is SOOOOOO CONSERVATIVE right?

Or endorsing a liberal-left abortion-supporting, pro-Amnesty charlatan for Congress.  It's not up to us to determine Trump is not a Conservative based on those fruits and others, BUT YOU are going to simply tell us he is and we're supposed to just accept that as gospel???

You got another thing coming if you think you can get away with spouting that kind of crap.

My conservative credentials go back to the Reagan years, and my views on every political position down the line regarding economics

I don't care if you were Ronald Reagan's speechwriter.  Your pretzel-logic apologist assertions of Trump's Conservative bonafides illustrate you are a miserable judge of what is Conservative.

You folks keep citing who Mr. Trump donated to…

And endorsed.  And voted for. And praised. Just 3 years ago - a known Communist.

but forgetting he did so in a business context.

And I assume his recent endorsement of Ellers is in a "business context" too, right????

What bovine excrement!

Trump himself said WHY he was endorsing Communist Bill DeBlasio on October 31, 2013: “He actually said some very nice things about me at a recent cocktail party I was told by somebody and I thought that was very nice.”

"Business context" eh??? So how nice was Ellers to Trump in a "business context" to get his nomination for her last week????????????

His donations, which were still mostly to Republicans,

Beginning in 2012.  Before then, not so much.

had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with ensuring his company's were treated fairly.

And when did Trump sit down with you to tell you this???  Are you a mind-reader?  An assumptive clairvoyant perhaps?

Your second go-to move is to proclaim old positions which Mr. Trump once held...but has not held for years, MANY years in most cases.

That's just a boldfaced lie right there. 

In March of this year he said he continued supported funding for Planned Parenthood after saying he was Pro-Life just a few days earlier.

In April Trump said "You bet I support raising taxes on the rich", adopting an actual Leftist talking point platform to make his own.  Last month he repeated that call and then had to walk it back and say he meant "from my original tax proposal I will have to raise taxes on the wealthy".  Yeah… okay Donald. 

Trump's positions (or should I say *suggestions*?) change daily like the wind.

You take his personal evolution towards conservatism as a negative, as if somehow a man realizing his liberal views were wrong and adjusting his course makes him unworthy. Tell that crap to Reagan and every other great Republican we've had who made the same transition in their lives.

This is such crap.  Reagan's evolution into Goldwater Conservatism was something that happened over time, many years and not in just one election cycle so he can run on the Republican ticket like Trump.  Reagan didn't fund and endorse a Communist 3 years before he threw his hat in the ring for president in '76.

So your arguments that Trump is liberal are based on two entirely bogus premises…

They are based on his fruits and record.  You people keep spinning and massaging and lying about his record as easily as Hillary does about e-mail servers.

In clear language, both your arguments are innately specious...carrying no weight because they have no bearing on his current positions and views.

Watery Horse manure.

I know its hard to admit when you are wrong,

You're projecting again.

But grow up and do the right thing for the country for once,

I'm voting for Darrel Castle or writing in Cruz in November.  That is the right thing to do for my conscience, my faith, my family, and my country.

or if you can't do that, just head for Dailykos and join in...you can even use the same arguments your making here because those folks agree with you about the GOP nominee. So go link up with your fellow Hillary supporters and leave the vast majority of conservatives and Republicans alone...we actually want to win this election rather than handing it to Hillary, and if you are not in that cause YOU are the problem.

Who the hell are you to make such a demand and when did the owner bequeath you the mantle of Jim Robinson to wield and make such demands on those of us who are not voting for your King Presumptive??????

This board is NOT TOS.  If you need a safe space, an echo chamber to hear the worship and praises of Trump without any possible questions being raised, a board already exists for you.  You have no authority to tell any of us to go somewhere else just because you don't like to hear what we post.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2016, 02:14:25 am »
"you're"

Listen, pal.  You've been here two months.  I'd suggest you not tell long-time members here to go somewhere else.   Why don't YOU go somewhere else?  You're in a very distinct minority on this forum, i.e. Trump supporters. 

You're not arguing from a position of numeric strength so it might just be a good idea to STFU.
That numeric strength can disappear very fast. So don't bank on it being a strength. Right now we like to have all you to ourselves. But you are vastly outnumbered in the real world.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2016, 02:20:09 am »
That numeric strength can disappear very fast. So don't bank on it being a strength. Right now we like to have all you to ourselves. But you are vastly outnumbered in the real world.

Hence this pic again:

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #123 on: June 07, 2016, 02:23:15 am »
That numeric strength can disappear very fast. So don't bank on it being a strength. Right now we like to have all you to ourselves. But you are vastly outnumbered in the real world.

Pfft, you won't even finish the conversation on immigration.

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Re: Evidence of paid rioters. $15 a hour to attack Trump supporters
« Reply #124 on: June 07, 2016, 02:28:20 am »
Hence this pic again:


Trump supporters are more conservative then #neverTrumps. Proof. The main difference between conservatives and liberals is level of maturity. It is the Mature position to defeat Hillary a known evil.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17